Jay B. Laws - The Unfinished.

I've said it many times including above, but something big happened to change the dynamic after the band returned from Europe in May 1967.

The currently fashionable term for what occurred in 1967 is "deplatforming." How or why that happened is up for debate (not really) but that's what it was. 

Deplatforming is a term from a few years ago (possibly pre-dating the alt-right being named the alt-right even) & probably out of date by now, meaning removing a platform from fascists, ie stopping them from'debating' at universities / spreading hate speech in public. Doesn't really apply to The Beach Boys becoming unpopular in late 60s America.

I have no doubt that Dennis was a proud father here. But I'll be the jackass and state that this is also the guy who got into domestic disputes with the mother of this child to the point of grabbing her hair and yanking her around,

The Rolling Stone feature you're referencing quotes Shawn as that happening right after she'd punched him in the face.

For the benefit of anyone else reading who doesn't know - In Bloom is?/was the band by Carl B & Just Wilson, Dennis & Carl's sons.

I've seen it referred to before in passing as a grunge band.

The cd's probably long out of print.

Their website's gone & the version in the internet archive was last updated in 2002 (domain expired & got taken over by spammers in 2006/07)  & the webstore selling their album has vanished,
& Ear Candy mag's interview with carl B. & Justyn is from August 2001. 



Ear Candy also has a review of the album from August 2001
https://www.earcandymag.com/reviews10.htm

"In Bloom "Music"-Indie Release -

You don't often expect a "heavy" sound when you have melodic songs and tight harmonies, but IN BLOOM has achieved it on their debut CD. The songs are often sparse & quirky, taking you in an unexpected direction with their unique vocal arrangements. And that's what I like about this record: IN BLOOM consistently infuses hard driving, heavy guitar music with pristine, often soaring harmonies. But, I'm not talking faux Green Day guitars and harmony which every flavor-of-the-month band has picked up just to get on the latest Warped Tour! IN BLOOM displays their integrity by performing their own hybrid of heavy metal, blues, punk, ska, and groove jammin'. But, by adding their own blend of harmony, they have come up with a unique style that is hard to catagorize in the often piegeonholed world of today's rock.

Some of the standout tracks include: WHITE DOG (excellent, soaring harmonies!), CRAZY 'LIL MOUSE (riff driven ska), I DON'T KNOW (begins as a kind of Sublime rip, but has a very cool middle with great harmonies), HEAVY DUTY (hardcore punk), NOT CONFIRMED (heavy song which goes off on a jamming guitar tangent), BLOOZEN'T (blues rock with IN BLOOM harmony!), TAE KWON DOE (from trippy laid back rock to super fast hardcore punk speed) and MARIO (hard driving rock with fun lyrics and cool harmonies). Sure there are a few songs that are forgettable and sound a little too much like Sublime and the Offspring. There is also a tendency on some tracks to go off on a guitar jamm (however, not too excessively). But on the whole, IN BLOOM has taken the harder road of developing their own sound, rather than sound just like what they think WILL sell! And, as a result they've come away with a memorable debut.

To go to this artist's web site click here
Review by GPR"


discogs claims they released a mini album in 2011 but  it's on bandcamp & seems to be a different generic pop-punk band/artist.
https://www.discogs.com/artist/253421-In-Bloom

Part of the site has been archived and has music samples (needs flash)
https://web.archive.org/web/20031130094956/http://www.inbloommusic.com/

This older page has short mp3 preview clips - not all of the files still exist  https://web.archive.org/web/20021023181426fw_/http://www.inbloommusic.com/music.htm

I thought there was some talk on here about Dennis being sort of racist taking about beating up a black guy or something like that? Forget what the actual accusations were.

Apparently Dennis used to tell people he'd been raped by a black guy. The details of the story reportedly changed every time he told it, so who knows if any of it was grounded in reality.

Stupid question but is there any source for that other than an uncited footnote in Heroes & Villains (Steven Gaines)?

just googled this book & found two dead links for amazon (UK & US) and a google books page with no previews
https://books.google.co.uk/books/about/The_Beach_Boys_Coloring_Book.html

The cover is literally an outline version of The Beach Boys Faq with a title box pasted over part of the original title.


Googlebooks says it's 34 pages and was self published via CreateSpace in 2017 - seems to have been totally deleted off amazon now.
Wonder if they got complaints about quality / copyright infringement?

thread bump

was trawling a newspaper archive and found this

from Probe Death Of A Beach Boy Daily News New York page 4 30th December 1983 (AP)
"The harbor patrol officer who found Wilson's body said the singer had dived repeatedly into the water during the day, and that might have led to his death.
"When you dive a lot you can hyperventilate; you can actually black out from that," officer John Rochford said. "

full article scan https://i.imgur.com/nUOzyox.jpg

Sounds like the same video that turned up on another video streaming site that's literally just a renamed rip of the Autopsy: last hours of Dennis Wilson documentary from 2017,  only with the uploaders credits tagged onto the beginning & end.

Earlier discussion: http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php?topic=24916.10

post with links to grabs from Scott's book re Dennis having breakdowns/panic attacks http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,24916.msg606781.html#msg606781

random oddity - there's contemporary news reports/obits on Dennis from '83 claiming he came up with the name Beach Boys  so that's an historical mistake.

Interesting fan art style cover - looks like it could be either also by or heavily inspired by Marcus Oakley's art (can't find the exact drawing online now but it used to be on pinterest according to google image search)
https://www.instagram.com/p/v3xgRdzQdv/?taken-by=marcus_oakley

and there's a version with alternative (also pretty cool) artwork here http://www.jcrmusicnews.com/en/cd/23363-beach-boys-wave-of-sunshine-the-complete-broadcasts-9cd-box.html

Sourced from Wolfgang's Vault?

https://www.pastemagazine.com/search?t=the+beach+boys&m=Audio -
(Tracks mostly listed on site in month order.)


Songs from: "Fillmore East (New York, NY), 06/27/1971", "Nassau Coliseum (Uniondale, NY), 05/14/1979", "Springfield Civic Center (Springfield, MA), 05/15/1979", "Spectrum (Philadelphia, PA), 04/18/1980", "Hampton Coliseum (Hampton, VA), 06/03/1980", "Great Lawn (Washington, DC), 06/04/1980,"
"JFK Stadium (Philadelphia, PA), 07/13/1985", "Penn's Landing (Philadelphia, PA), 07/04/1995"

Not entirely sure if this is actually The Beach Boys, seems to be an updated Kingston Trio song.
Disappointingly not a surprise live version of 4th of July.
https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2012/04/the-beach-boys-4th-of-july-song.html
http://www.lyricsdepot.com/the-kingston-trio/theyre-rioting-in-africa.html
^ fake edit after a quick google & it's legit and otherwise known as “Merry Minuet”
 + looks like concerts are def sourced from Wolfgang's Vault/Concert Vault. Going by the thread below plus June 3rd & 4th 1980 are misdated 3rd and the 4th of July concerts.
http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php?topic=22210.0

Others tracks are "Brian Wilson - Do It Again
"Jackson Hole Music Festival (Teton Village, WY), 08/17/2008"
https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2014/01/brian-wilson-do-it-again2.html

Carl interviewed in "11/04/1984"
https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2014/01/carl-wilson-interview.html

A Bruce Johnston interview from "09/03/1988"
https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2009/07/bruce-johnston-interview.html

Part of the set of The Grateful Dead joining in with the Beach Boys

Plus the Greatest Lakes covering All I Wanna Do
https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2015/12/03-all-i-wanna-dowav.html

They did in early in the year at some gigs and on a TV appearance on "Friday's" (great version on that show; much better than the wonky performance from the Spectrum in April), but it was dropped by May or so.

Speaking of "Goin' on" done live, someone just recently uploaded this performance on "Fridays" in much better quality than I had ever seen before:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5h62YsU1GZc

Oonly watched the first minute or so (need to be somewhere) I'll watch the rest later.

Wow - haven't heard the original album/vinyl version (was Keepin' the Summer Alive ever released anywhere as a single?) only the Knebworth performance,  but Carl's vocals on the first minute or so of TSAS here really rock.

Funny thing about this picture.  It's probably one of the few times in the late 80s where Mike is the LEAST ridiculous looking one in the picture. 

Mike actually looks 80s cool. 

[Dennis Wilson 1944 - 1983 page]

In the excellent (primarily Skateboarding) documentary, Dogtown and Zboys, they touch on the Venice surf crowd, which was pretty hostile to non locals. I could see Dennis fitting in down there!!

Can't find the original post right now, it's either been deleted or facebook's page search posts search is being dodgy last night and today, but Ed Roach over on his Dennis Wilson 1944 - 1983 page posted about Jay Adams (not sure / don't remember if He & / or Dennis knew him)
https://www.facebook.com/roachclips68/photos/a.168909366653742.1073741827.168908843320461/273020722909272/?type=3

Mitch Toney says in the comments that Scott Wilson & Jay were friends.

But then I remembered this scene of the band dressed as rappers in Wipeout:

Two turntables and a Mike Love, just doesn't have the same ring. /Beck (not Jeff Beck the other 90s one. Nearly typed James Beck - he was Private Walker, the spiv in Dads Army lol)

I've been a subscriber of this club since 1992. I can see if my scanner will work, and I'll do what I can in scanning a shot of what you are asking for.

I've got a scan of that, and actually posted it on...another board...I tried to post it here, but can't seem to be able to work the attachment tool!

linked it 5 posts up - hope that's ok.
http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,22540.msg626874.html#msg626874

I remember when I was a young teenager in the '90s, there was a sort of home-made fanzine that I used to get ... I'm sure the old-timers here remember it.

Anyway, I seem to recall seeing a reprint of a handwritten Christmas card that Dennis sent to the fan club ... If my memory is correct, I believe it said something like, "Thank you to all of my fans who took the time to write to me in the Dennymania newsletter", and was dated very close to the end (maybe December 23, 1983?).

Kind of interesting that Dennis was writing Christmas cards/fan letters during this period ... it's always been assumed that Dennis was sort of "out of it" at this time, but this would suggest he might have been a little more together.

Any thoughts or memories? Anyone have a scan of this card?

Donny

I was a subscriber and I've got that issue in a box in my basement...just saw it the other day. Unless someone beats me to it (and feel free to do so), I'll try and get it uploaded here.

Hope it's ok to link to your thread with scan over on Pet Sounds forum, if it isn't I'll delete this.
http://petsoundsforum.com/thread/2076/dennis-final-christmas-message

Really touching if sad (date looks like it could be the 23rd) 
Text is "Dear Chris,
Please send my warmest holiday wishes to all the nice people
who have taken the time to write to me in the Dennymania newsletter.
Sincerely, (signature)"

It may be dictated but I believe the words and feelings behind them were real.

Not music but volume one of Michael Palin's diaries mentions Mike, Al & Dennis being around before & after Monty Python's performance at The Open-air Pop Festival, Bardney, near Lincolnn England (looks like's it was The Great Western Express festival Bardney . Lincolnshire. May 26th-29th 1972
http://www.ukrockfestivals.com/gwrecollections.html - eta: The Beach Boys were the next performers.)
Mike & Al were the co-organisers caravan where the Python's were meant to be having a drink & last-minute rehearsal.
"Dennis Wilson of The Beach Boys came up to me and shook my hand and congratulated me, when only seven years ago I was packed in the Odean Hammersmith trying to catch a glimpse of him."

Carl was with Dennis at the Queen concert. I believe it was in Mike's book. Dennis was drunk and the members of Queen didn't want to meet him. I think it was 75 or 77.

Taylor Hawkins in Ken Sharp's new Dennis/POB book (page 286)
" Roger Taylor from Queen...told me a great story. He was coming off stage at the Forum in L.A after a Queen show in1977 and this homeless-looking guy jumped all over him. Security grabbed him and he realised it's f***in' Dennis. He had the big beard and was probably wearing flip-flops. Just classic Dennis. Roger said they sat around and had a couple of drinks and spoke for 30 - 45 minutes and said he was lovely. He said he was so complimentary of the show and loved Queen and loved their harmonies. He said he was so sweet to him".

There was some discussion about this photo relating to a Dennis Wilson interview in Disc and Music Echo in December 1970:

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,16815.msg425867.html#msg425867

Thanks, that's interesting reading. Did the article ever get posted & is the restaurant table photo on getty's page the same one from that article?

Stumbled accross an alt pic taken at the same time - can't find a larger version

Belated Birthday wishes - thinking of you.

found a copy, watching it right now & was just about to post the screenshot - looks like you've got there first.

There's is un-watermarked & they've blurred out the name of the hotel for some reason

Thumbnails linking to full size because they're large images - second one is zoomed in.




Gorgeous shot by Michael Putland.
eta: Getty says it's London, December 1st 1970 but they've misdated some pics before.

There's some other shots taken around the same time here + other pics of Dennis by him
http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/photos/dennis-wilson-michael-putland?excludenudity=true&family=editorial&phrase=Dennis%20Wilson%20Michael%20putland&sort=best#license

Well that's the end of this part. I was surprised to see that there is a part 2. Will probably miss it. But I want that picture of  Dennis.
Dear History Channel......

going by their schedules (& guessing your in America) it was probably this
http://www.history.com/shows/manson-speaks-inside-the-mind-of-a-madman/season-1/episode-1
MANSON SPEAKS: INSIDE THE MIND OF A MADMAN (mentions a part 2)

There's a stream but you need to sign in with the listed US tv providers - inc Hulu.

So far youtube only has fake uploads.

Part 1's being repeated at 3:03am, & 4:02am  ET time & the stream is available til Jan 8 next year if somebody can either record or access it and screengrab that photo (if it is the right doc).

Well that's the end of this part. I was surprised to see that there is a part 2. Will probably miss it. But I want that picture of  Dennis.
Dear History Channel......

going by their schedules (& guessing your in America) it was probably this
http://www.history.com/shows/manson-speaks-inside-the-mind-of-a-madman/season-1/episode-1
MANSON SPEAKS: INSIDE THE MIND OF A MADMAN (mentions a part 2)

There's a stream but you need to sign in with the listed US tv providers - inc Hulu.

So far youtube only has fake uploads.

Judee Sill - Jesus Was A Crossmaker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8tDmPmC_Bk
"One time I trusted a stranger because I heard his sweet song..."

alt version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zfh_PkFRVs
"He's a bandit and a heartbreaker, oh but Jesus was a crossmaker..."

& The Donor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeITxqrAOws

Sail On Sailor in the local old fashioned independent department store & restaurant . (They've recently switched from copyright free songs that sounds vaguely like 'current' bands, to 70s music, heard about 4 Elton John songs yesterday mixed in with some Bowie and classic rock - Supertramp & Boston etc.)

Same place yesterday heard God Only Know inexplicably in the middle of a set of Christmas songs.
(went like Christmas song, Christmas song, Christmas song etc. followed by "That's not a Christmas song", back to a  Christmas song, followed by "are they playing God Only Knows? "  then a couple more Christmas songs before they decided to play some Queen instead.)