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1  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Nuttiest Producer? on: May 09, 2006, 04:05:53 AM
He was brought in to produce "Sunday Morning," which was hoped would be the big hit off the album.

Sterling Morrison said the sound of the second album is the way it is as a result of the band having no patience for the niceties of recording. Reed called this their amphetimine album, they were stoked on speed and god knows what. If they were told they couldn't do something because it was taking the needle into the red, or were asked to turn down because somebody was bleeding into somebody else's mic, they completely disregarded them. They figured, "We're the band, we know what we're doing, you're the technicians, don't come to us about what you're supposed to be doing." As I've said before, engineer Gary Kellgren got up and walked out of the studio before they began "Sister Ray." "Let me know when it's over," he said. They didn't even have anyone at the console for that! Morrison never quite forgave the insult. Imagine it, it's an album session, not a demo; you're paying the guy to give you a professional recording for something you're hoping will receive airplay and public interest, you're paying for studio time, you're paying for production costs, and the guy takes a powder because, apparently, your grand opus sucks too hard for him to have to sit through once. LOL
2  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Happy Cinco De Mayo! on: May 06, 2006, 09:28:18 AM
Quote from: Allsummerlong
I'm eating hot Mexican food for the only time this year
Whoah, let's step it up, big guy. Mexican food is one of life's easy pleasures! Grin
3  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Songs with really cool endings on: May 04, 2006, 06:38:54 AM
Hots On For Nowhere - Led Zep
4  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: It doesn't get any better than this.... on: April 27, 2006, 07:29:58 PM
Great god almighty, I've never seen Bo Diddley live before, I'm floored. Check out his other videos on there. Mindblowing. Those must have been amazing shows when he toured with the Clash in '79.
5  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Favourite Clash Album? on: April 23, 2006, 08:30:48 PM
Ah! Spirit Of St. Louis - thanks for reminding me! This was posted on a Clash board, I just downloaded it, you can too:

Most of them can't stand Ellen Foley over there, I don't get it. As if it's a sacrelige to have a female vocal on a Clash record. She was great on "Hitsville UK" and "Car Jamming."
6  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: From Me To You - The Beatles on: April 23, 2006, 07:31:34 PM
Impeccable as ever, Ian! I'm playing "Fool Around" in your honor as we speak. Grin Love this girl! Should have included "Stay Awhile" in the Shop's "Spector soundalikes" thread.
7  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Neutral Milk Hotel on: April 20, 2006, 07:47:49 PM
Who the hell is talking about Coldplay and Stereolab? I know nothing of either. Seriously, this came out of your head, not ours.

And if a billion trendy hipsters adopt something good, I gotta stop listening to it?? Like I said, I don't fault anyone for not getting it, but I resent the condescension. Music has been my oxygen, my religion and my universe since 1972, I'm not deaf and blind to quality, kid.
8  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Neutral Milk Hotel on: April 20, 2006, 04:11:15 AM
Oh, man. (Takes breath, then gushes.) As good as anything Wilson, Dylan or Lennon ever did, IMO. Right up there with SMiLE for me. A classic for the ages. The most original, brilliant music to come out of the nineties, it never fails to level me. And yet it's oddball enough that I can understand and not fault anyone for not being able to get into it. But I say give it a shot, if you love it, you'll love it like nothing else you've ever heard.
9  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Calling all Beatle buffs on: April 19, 2006, 02:31:50 PM
I don't think so, the BBC did a special preview show for "Pepper" before it came out, with Kenny Everett hosting and the Fabs introducing the tracks as they were premiered, and "Lucy" was aired that night. I'm pretty sure it was just "A Day In The Life" they banned.
10  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: I'm moving to L.A. on: April 18, 2006, 07:27:29 PM
Keep your eyes open, you don't want to miss out when the ol' Spector place becomes available.

Good luck out there!
11  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Clash on: April 18, 2006, 07:15:19 PM
I love everything they did, one of my all time favorite bands. Heroes to me in my rock and roll youth, the records more than hold up twenty five-thirty years later, it's some of the most exciting music ever recorded. I'll never forget the Bonds residency, summer of '81, that was their peak. They had such an aura about them, and most of the folks I knew were in awe of them, as was the press, they were all over the news at that time. I saw them four times between '80 and '82. Losing Joe a few years ago was a huge kick in the stomach for me. There'll never be another Joe Strummer.
12  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Calling all Beatle buffs on: April 18, 2006, 08:20:05 AM
The Two Virgins cover, shipped in a paper bag and banned all over the place.

"The Ballad Of John & Yoko" - many US radio stations edited the word "Christ" out of the song before they'd play it. (Some stations re-edited the word back in backwards, so as not to inturrupt the meter/flow of the song.)

Beatle records were illegal in communist countries.

I think "I Am The Walrus" was also banned by the BBC for the "you let your knickers down" line.

John's "erotic lithographs" were seized by the cops as pornography when they went on display.
13  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: The Dramatic Thread on: February 28, 2006, 07:12:50 AM
Take comfort in your friends.
14  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Dylan's Religious Phase on: February 27, 2006, 07:42:12 PM
You should add "Groom's Still Waiting At The Alter" along with "Every Grain Of Sand" and "Heart Of Mine" as far as highlights on the album. I don't know if your tape has this, as it originally wasn't on the album, it was just a b-side, but it eventually got appended onto the lineup because it was so popular. Guess they thought it would spur album sales. It's a great track.
15  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Dylan's Religious Phase on: February 27, 2006, 01:17:55 PM
I've always liked "Shot Of Love." It's a great sounding album, well produced and vibrant, whereas, from what I remember (haven't heard it since high school) "Slow Train Coming" was kind of monochromatic and subdued. I haven't heard "Saved," the cover scared me off at the time.

While everyone was surprised at the direction he'd taken, it was around this time that Dylan was really putting on some remarkable shows. I've been meaning to share these clips on the board for awhile, now that this topic has popped up, I've got the perfect opportunity. I really enjoy these, I point to these performances when someone tries to say that the Christian period was a crap phase in Bob's career. (Not that anybody has said that here.) The first two songs were never released on any of Dylan's albums as far as I know, so if you like what he was doing at this time, definately grab 'em. They come from an April 1980 show in Toronto, I love the soulful backing singers on these. The last tune comes from a November '80 show in San Francisco and features Michael Bloomfield on guitar.

Ain't Gonna Go To Hell

Coverdown, Breakthrough

The Groom's Still Waiting At The Alter
16  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: RIP Don Knotts/Darren McGavin on: February 26, 2006, 09:15:25 PM
Wow, sorry to hear this. Knotts, of course, is timeless. One of the greats.

And McGavin, yep, terrific in A Christmas Story, and the Night Stalker and all the rest. I'm suddenly remembering a series in which he was a sports writer too. I used to like that show. Funny, haven't thought of it in two decades, but I still remember.

Two lives that left their mark.
A tip of the glass...
17  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Sex Pistols to R&R Hall of Fame: Up yours, we're not coming. on: February 26, 2006, 08:53:35 PM
Quote from: aeijtzsche
Who will be talking about the Pistol's snub in a decade or so?
Oh, I think anyone who's still talking about the Pistols and/or the Hall, which should be plenty. Think about it, since it's inception, alot of people have expressed the opinion that a rock hall of fame is a bizarre notion, a way to institutionalize and legitimize teenage rebellion, anger, lust, etc. Domesticating a lion. Everyone talks, but the Pistols were the first to actually reject it. Until now, everybody has wanted to get in, every year the inductees get a front page headline in the music press. When McCartney got in as a solo, his daughter wore a shirt proclaiming, "It's about f*ing time" or something to that effect. The Pistols are the first to openly backhand the whole thing. I think this is a moment that will have some resonance throughout the coming years. It's not as jarring as if it had come out of nowhere and taken everybody by surprise, but it's still significant.

And about the reunion tour, I have no problem with it. I thiink it was a dream come true, and it would have truly sucked if they all went to their graves having never played before all the people that love their music and never had a chance in hell to see them in their heyday. At the start of the tour, Lydon commented that as soon as something is held up as a sacred cow, not to be tamepered with, to remain perfectly preserved behind glass in a museum, he gets the urge to destroy it. The Pistols of all people shouldn't be some precious icon to be protected and worshipped, let 'em get out there on the boards and blast a crowd to the back wall. You'd rather go see Matlock solo and imagine what it was like? Listen to John's exuberance on the live CD, "Finsbury Park never looked so f*cking good!" They finally got a chance to claim what was owed them; some money for their trouble and the sound of a huge audience that appreciated them. It was a good deal.
18  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Sex Pistols to R&R Hall of Fame: Up yours, we're not coming. on: February 25, 2006, 09:06:30 AM
Quote from: Old Rake
Maybe I just expected a press statement that didn't sound like it was written by an inarticulate 20-year-old.
Jon, have you seen the letter? It's kinda scary, looks like one of those Zodiac Killer or Son of Sam letters. When I transcribed it, I corrected some bad spelling and punctuation. I'm a lilttle surprised to see someone as intelligent as Lydon could use a little summer school.

Anyway, I think it's great, I've been on a big Pistols kick for about a month, so the timing is perfect. This is exactly what they should have done IMO. I wouldn't have wanted them to show up and act thankful and assimilated, I wouldn't have wanted them to show up and act like arrogant, embarrassing assholes. The thing to do was to blow it off. I wasn't expecting such a vitriolic flipping of the bird, but it seems appropriate coming from them. I think he's completely sincere, too, I'd say he did this (and pulled the rest of the band behind him) because he felt it, not because it's what everyone was waiting for. And on a superficial level, I have to say it's kinda exciting to see them, even briefly, back in the public eye as Sex Pistols again rather than former Sex Pistols.

Oh, I think Steve and John are going to be appearing together on Jimmy Kimmel's show sometime in March, I think it might be March 10, if anyone wants to catch it.
19  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Sex Pistols to R&R Hall of Fame: Up yours, we're not coming. on: February 24, 2006, 01:55:31 PM
Here's the statement, posted on both the Pistols and Lydon's websites:

"Next to the SEX PISTOLS, rock and roll and that hall of fame is a piss stain. Your museum. Urine in wine. We're not your monkeys and so what? Fame for $25,000 if we paid for a table, or $15,000 to squeek up in the gallery, goes to a non-profit organization selling us a load of old famous. Congratulations. If you voted for us, hope you noted your reasons. You're anonymous as judges, but you're still music industry people. We're not coming. You're not paying attention. Outside the sh*t-stem is a real SEX PISTOL."
20  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Post your favorite guitar sounds on albums... on: February 23, 2006, 02:53:08 PM
Yes, definately.

Leslie West is another "tone master."

And whoever played on Norman Greenbaum's "Spirit In The Sky."
21  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Post your favorite guitar sounds on albums... on: February 23, 2006, 02:16:51 PM
Chunky, rockin' stuff:
The tone on "Reelin' In The Years" is killer, that whole intro before the vocals come in is one of my favorite slices of music.
Clapton on "Hideaway" on the Bluesbreakers album.
Steve Jones always got a great sound out of his guitar, especially on "Bodies" and "Satellite."
Jimmy Page. "How The West Was Won."
Lou Reed on the Velvets live reunion album, fat and ballsy.
The solo in Southside Johnny's "Hearts Of Stone."
ZZ Top in their heyday.
And my favorite guitar noise in the history of the universe: "Like A Hurricane." I can and have listened to this on "repeat" for an hour at a time.

Pretty, beautiful stuff:
The "Anthology 2" version of "Across The Universe". "If I Needed Someone."
Anything by Bruce Langhorn.
Chrissie Hynde (or was it Honeyman-Scott?) on "Kid" and "Talk Of The Town."
Roddy Frame (Aztec Camera) on "Oblivious"
Those glorious opening strums on "My Sweet Lord."
That beautiful "watery" effect they get on "Child Is Father Of The Man"
McGuinn on "Turn! Turn! Turn!"
The crashing wall of acoustic guitars on "Do You Realize??"
22  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: "Free as a Bird" and "Real Love" on: February 21, 2006, 09:41:56 AM
These are nothing new to anyone who's been around Beatle boots for awhile, but some may not have heard 'em, and they're pretty neat.

First up is a cool little digitally doctored version of "Free As A Bird" that was created (I think) by OOPSing the released track, and then editing in parts of the original Lennon demo. It's extremely well done, you'd think it was legit. Lennon's vocal loses the "tin can" effect, and it comes across as a kind of unplugged version with strummed acoustic guitars to the fore and no Ringo.

And here's an early, working mix of "Real Love" with Kevin Godley supplying the vocal. I guess this was before they got the Lennon vocal properly synched.

And lastly, the longer video mix of "Free As A Bird" with the bird effects at the begining and the clapping outro. (And someone's reversed the backwards Lennon message - "Turned out nice again. They always do" - and tacked it on as a kind of psychedelic coda. I like it.)
23  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Beatles people: Ticket to Ride info on: February 20, 2006, 01:49:11 PM
I think he said it was the first metal record, as is.
24  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Beatles people: Ticket to Ride info on: February 20, 2006, 01:45:46 PM
There's a few odd alternate mixes for "Ticket To Ride," and a tape of the master take that continues on longer than where the record fades out, but as far as I know, no instrumental track has surfaced.
25  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: What happened to EVH? on: February 20, 2006, 09:11:23 AM
He probably needs a break. 30 years on the merry-go-round, touring, recording, the breakup of the family, facing cancer, lineup changes, decreased sales. He probably figured it was time to take stock and live for himself a bit. We tend to see that as dropping off the face of the earth, but it's probably long overdue and exactly what's called for.
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