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126  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The only negative review on Pet Sounds I can't stand... on: October 02, 2017, 08:09:15 AM
the most insipidly idiotic of them is that 'the melodies are not especially beautiful' - Caroline, No is exquisite

i'll use this opportunity to debunk an old even generally accepted remark about Pet Sounds "happy songs sell records, sad songs sell beer",  because I can think of many as I'm sure you can sad songs that made the chart top 10 (i'll allow Caroline No happens not to be one of them, since it was a 45)
127  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Reel Tapes Library Images on: September 22, 2017, 08:36:47 AM
there's about as much authenticity in this so-called reel session tape storage rack as Bruce Johnston's old remark about a beach boys album called The Fading Rock Group Revival

in other words a fan who kept 10-1/2" dia. reel tapes of beach boys albums decided to store them in a faux BRI session multi replica as a gag, pulling our legs with that photo a bit like bruce did with that goofy comment

mr. desper might bear me out in that the boxes there for those 10-1/2" dia. reels probably contain not the 1/2" width tape as I originally thought, but the much more consumer standard 1/4" width tape (with a pad piece for filler), my x-ray BS detector sniffs this out
128  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Reel Tapes Library Images on: September 22, 2017, 07:44:43 AM
it's rather faint but on there is a label for the aforementioned Bob Rolle as 'Robert D. Rolle'
129  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Reel Tapes Library Images on: September 21, 2017, 10:32:18 AM
the upper rack seems to be straight LP releases.  there're two concert ones and i'll assume one is live in London.  strange stack-o-tracks isn't represented there

the lower rack has the weirder titling i.e., one tape is add some music but there's another called sunflower (we know the historic reason for this).  but I maintain it doesn't have to make sense, a fan is just goofing around and creating intriguing though ultimately false tape appearances, having seen as I say a photo of the real mc-coy containing numerous odd (to us) titlings (among the familiar) a knowledgeable fan could guess at

130  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Reel Tapes Library Images on: September 21, 2017, 09:40:07 AM
off to the far left in that photo one can actually see a bit of commercial reel-to-reel tape releases (perhaps not beach boys, the label printing's just too small)

those boxes are for 10 inch diameter reels and are about double the thickness of the 1/4" tape boxes at the bottom so i'll say they hold 1/2" width tape.  1/2" blank tape on 10-1/2" reels is not a very common consumer recording format but it is/was out there

the question of why not buy the beach boy albums on commercially released pre-recorded tapes instead of a fan dubbing his own record albums onto the larger reel format need not be relevant.  those of us who had fancy reel recorders then did such things all the time (it didn't have to make any particular sense).  also, over the years the commercially available pre-recorded beach boy album tapes were quite scattershot in quality, the oldest ones on capitol being double-album pairings on one reel at the inferior 3-3/4 IPS speed (only pet sounds was a single 7-1/2 IPS release in 1966 and that was brief and hard to find).  The brother/reprise ones went back and forth between 3-3/4 and 7-1/2 speeds illogically (except from a tape cost standpoint) album to album title

my guess is what we're seeing here is a kind of fan beach boy tape library copycat open reel setup.  he'd seen some old private photographs (perhaps from Brian) and set out to create his own version of it from memory
131  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Why has the song \ on: August 25, 2017, 06:50:52 AM
given the nature of this thread it would appear natural simply to retitle the song

ALMOST FORGOTTEN
132  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Beach Boys Wild Honey(Sunshine Tomorrow) 2CD Set? on: August 24, 2017, 08:14:56 AM
the correct CD to listen to (late at night under candlelight) having just been identified for us (as if there's any doubt)

I will identify the correct Belgium craft beer that was alluded to - BROEJEL (a bock lager), chill well
133  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys Most Challenging Song (Instrumentally) on: August 17, 2017, 09:31:43 AM
Cabin Essence I don't see mentioned and I've never been able to get anywhere with that one myself.  The others are certainly possible for a person to deal with since good charts have been published (well, not all), Let's Go Away For Awhile loses its challenge when one sees the notes printed on the music stand in front of you

Busy Doin' Nothing I agree is quite a challenge to play something satisfying.  And you're going to want to sing that one too regardless if you have much of a voice (the lyrics and the way Brian speak-sings them are just too ingrained in our consciousness)
134  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mark Linnett and Alan Boyd about that 68 package - on: August 17, 2017, 07:34:01 AM
an idea I've flirted with that could possibly fit into this (although maybe it's too late, the just released '67 package might've been better setting) is the complete genesis of Cool, Cool Water

starting with Love To Say Da Da then metamorphosing into a Coca-Cola commercial (surely the tapes must still be around with that proposed vocal track), then the addition of the divinely beautiful 'Water Chant' and how that progressed to the Sunflower LP, etc with even more embellishment

there's a lot of material here and I think the evolution if presented with chronological accuracy and insight would prove positively fascinating
135  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mark Linnett and Alan Boyd about that 68 package - on: August 14, 2017, 01:06:43 PM
for Friends album 'session highlights' I'd like to hear anything that the old tapes can uncover of Murry Wilson's presence there and then, since he did sing bass on some cuts (mike love thankfully being away in india) and maybe we can recognize him among the studio chatter

and other tracks considered but dropped from the Stack-O-Tracks final line-up
136  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Is there an appreciation thread for The Beach Boys In Concert [1973] on: July 28, 2017, 10:11:33 AM
yes the only way to play that live Marcella is LOUD

that album sounds bestest on the old pre-recorded open reel tape format (7-1/2 IPS speed) it got issued at the time (discs spliced into one continuous tape reel)
137  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Why has the song \ on: July 24, 2017, 11:08:24 AM
obviously everybody's been misinterpreting the AS lyric all these years, what Suzy wants to be is a director, of ladies
138  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Something I think we need to realize vis--vis Mike and the band's name... on: July 19, 2017, 01:01:24 PM
"There was no gun to their head forcing this set up. They did it."

but there's not a single person on this site who'd say MEL (and that's certainly not Melinda) didn't bully his way into get exactly what he wants from the others (as the record over the many years attests to), including his (last remaining) cousin to whom he fundamentally owes it all to
139  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \ on: July 15, 2017, 09:17:45 AM
eat
eat up
eat up
honey!
140  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Quentin Tarantino Prepping New Movie Tackling Manson Murders on: July 14, 2017, 01:29:50 PM
Terry Melcher would be essential to any film portrayal here

but Dennis & Brian might ultimately be viewed by mr tarentino as a kind of character clutter.  They're more well known than Terry ever was, but still they might be eliminated in contemporary story re-telling
141  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Can't Wait Too Long on Sunshine Tomorrow on: July 13, 2017, 07:13:57 AM
".....as well as a section that appears immediately after Miracles only in bootlegs, with a prominent rhythmic element and wordless "aaaahs" from the Boys."

yes, this particular section mentioned a post or two above has long tantalized & mystified me - has a name ever been put to it anywhere?  It is not the I Believe In Miracles vocal heard in MIC
142  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: THE BEACH BOYS UNLEASH 'SUNSHINE TOMORROW' on: June 29, 2017, 08:52:43 AM
the beach boys unleash sunshine tomorrow tomorrow


(I couldn't help it)
143  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Happy Birthday Bruce on: June 27, 2017, 12:15:21 PM
born it seems exactly a week after Brian

happy birthday Mr. Benjamin Baldwin
144  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Beach Boys Wild Honey(Sunshine Tomorrow) 2CD Set? on: June 14, 2017, 01:00:31 PM
I've seen track list for the 2nd CD of this set which has a track #35, though it's a bit confusing
145  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Beach Boys Wild Honey(Sunshine Tomorrow) 2CD Set? on: June 14, 2017, 07:31:53 AM
HIDE GO SEEK and the unknown Redwood instrumental tracks on this new CD are rather brief
146  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Beach Boys Wild Honey(Sunshine Tomorrow) 2CD Set? on: May 30, 2017, 10:29:16 AM
returning to the DARLIN' Redwood issue and exactly what/when lyrics Mike Love wrote,  there is contradiction and inaccuracy to pass around.  Brian took the old THINKING 'BOUT YOU BABY melody and gave it the title DARLIN' for the first Redwood single based on Danny Hutton's use of the expression.  They (Redwood) even recorded it as a Brian Wilson production because it's been said "the Redwood vocals on DARLIN' were erased and no longer exist".  What lyrics did Redwood sing--new ones written by Mike Love, and the same as Carl sang when it became a Beach Boys tune before long?  Personally I don't think so, even if Mike supported a Redwood single-only release in theory
147  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Beach Boys Wild Honey(Sunshine Tomorrow) 2CD Set? on: May 26, 2017, 11:35:56 AM
Mike was ruthless pulling the plug on Redwood, though a single only (brother Records label) was how Danny Hutton understood it at the time.  Brian offered to pay for recording a full album (even if he couldn't be producer) because he'd no doubt promised Danny that at the outset (apparently he wasn't taken up on that financial offer).  It's apparent Mike called the new Brother Records shots by this early incident and Brian learned that the hard way.  It's my belief that Mike's name was added to the Darlin' songwriting credit only AFTER Redwood refused a 45-only deal to start (but after some Redwood vocals had been recorded), interpreting the lyrics were modified by Mike (the title was a common Danny Hutton expression)
148  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Beach Boys Wild Honey(Sunshine Tomorrow) 2CD Set? on: May 26, 2017, 10:26:25 AM
Mike Love didn't put the kibosh on Brian's Redwood outside project in its' totality--only the extent of it.  Danny Hutton has said that at the time they were beginning recording an albums' worth of material w/ Brian producing but Mike said to him 'No--not an album we'll start with a single only' and Danny wouldn't hear of it, it's a full album or nothing he replied.  So Redwood got nothing.  If Danny had agreed to a trial 45 instead then Darlin' would have not been a Beach Boys single.  In Mike's defense I think he didn't want his cousins attention taken away by a whole LP's work outside the group but 2 songs were fine
149  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Best Mike Love Quotes on: May 25, 2017, 10:52:35 AM
if mike love' in 1993 is still trying to figure out what Heroes + Villains song lyric's about well it's no wonder he had such fundamental problems w/ over & over the crow cries uncover the cornfield

a tip to mr. love - write down all those lyrics yourself, correctly and carefully, and look at them for awhile
150  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Beach Boys Wild Honey(Sunshine Tomorrow) 2CD Set? on: May 24, 2017, 01:20:07 PM
a "wall of Bruce"

none of their names' is not Bruce

not a one.

otherwise

we'd have a problem
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