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101  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Can someone explain how R&R Music was a Top 10 hit for 6 weeks? on: August 21, 2014, 05:13:50 PM

Just think. If The Beach Boys woulda released the ALTERNATE version of Rock & Roll Music (MIC version) in 1976 it probably would've gone at least top 10 and been on the charts longer!

I had Brian sign my Rock & Roll Music single 2-3 weeks after it came out in '76. He asked me how I liked it and I of course lied and told him I did.

Uh.... it did go top 10. It went to #5.

I remember being surprised it did that well, but like everyone else has said, it sounded great on the radio. It seemed like it fit in perfectly at the time. There was still that nostalgia thing going on and I think people were just really happy to have the Beach Boys back on the radio with a new release.
102  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Bill Medley Meets Brian on: August 18, 2014, 08:47:17 PM
Very cool. Thanks for sharing that. That would be mind-blowing to hear them do that complex, tight arrangement live right in front of you. What an incredible piece of writing, especially for a 22 year old kid.

Never heard that phrase "something I couldn't do with a shotgun", but I think I know what he meant.
103  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike posts about Robin Williams on facebook on: August 12, 2014, 08:26:39 AM
I believe a beach boys song was featured in Good Morning Vietnam.
"I Get Around"!

Wasn't "Sloop John B" also featured? Or am I getting it confused with another Vietnam movie.

I do recall a scene in Good Morning Vietnam where they are discussing possible live entertainment for the troops, and after a few group names are mentioned Robin says, "Why don't we just get The Beach Boys?"

I am still in shock and so saddened by Robin's death. It always seems the level of grief is directly proportional to the amount of joy and happiness that that person bought you. And Robin Williams brought me a LOT of joy and happiness!
104  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys in \ on: August 12, 2014, 07:41:06 AM
This them?

Wow! They even got a woodie in the picture!  Tongue
105  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Most Forgotten Beach Boy: Ricky Fataar on: August 01, 2014, 07:35:11 AM
Didn't he play with Brian a few years back - like a guest spot with Jackson Browne, maybe? Wasn't he at one of the Carl charity walks (or was that just Blondie)?

Both Ricky and Blondie were at the Carl Wilson Walk in 2000 and they performed SOS and sounded great. Brian stood on the sidelines and seemed to be really into their performance. I have it on video. Maybe I'll upload it.
106  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Stamos accused… on: July 29, 2014, 10:28:35 AM
Maybe Stamos stole his chick.

Why would he lash out so long after the fact?
107  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Carl Wilson - Extended Interview 1984 on: July 22, 2014, 11:06:23 AM
As someone noted earlier, Carl exemplifies kindness and thoughfulness throughout this interview. Not only was he very gracious and patient with the ill-prepared and unengaged interviewer, but in none of Carl's answers did he say anything remotely insulting or negative about anyone - even performers of who he clearly was not a big fan. He would always find something positive to say about whomever he was asked about or happened to be talking about.

This wonderful interview made me gain even more love and respect for Carl. It exemplifies the "kind and gentle soul" descriptor we've always heard regarding Carl .

I think I'll start marketing some bracelets people can wear that say "WWCWD?" Hmmm.....
108  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Rolling Stone article on Brian's new album on: July 18, 2014, 10:48:57 AM
The more I read that article, the more I became frustrated that this isn't a Beach Boys album. What a travesty. I share Brian's sadness. He already had most, if not all, the songs written. All he needed was Mike's, Al's, Dave's, Bruce's, and Jeff's vocals and the album was in the can.

But really, who are the Beach Boys now, in 2014? Jeff's not a Beach Boy. Dave never added to the classic vocal blend, and Mike's current voice is nothing to get really excited about. Bruce adds some nice high parts, but they are not anything that several other singers can't do equally as well (Matt J). The huge missing element in the classic BB sound is Carl. Without Carl in the mix, I don't see this as a great loss that the current day "Beach Boys" are not singing on it. Al still has the vocal chops he had back in the day, so the fact that he is singing on it is a huge boost for BB authenticity. The other 2 guys..... they won't be missed.

Now for sentimental reasons, it would be nice for it to fall under the Beach Boys banner.
109  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love 1980's Recordings on: July 09, 2014, 09:10:27 PM
Who said anything about tape speed variances? If you are familiar with the munchkin effect of digital pitch shifting,
I wasn't familiar with the munchkin effect of digital pitch shifting. 

Then a little more elucidation is in order....

110  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love 1980's Recordings on: July 09, 2014, 08:20:04 PM
Who said anything about tape speed variances? If you are familiar with the munchkin effect of digital pitch shifting, you can clearly hear this artifact on his vocal. Sounds like somebody played a mean joke on the Lovester at mixdown of this tune. There's no way he could have sung this out of tune even if he tried.
111  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love 1980's Recordings on: July 09, 2014, 06:03:05 PM
Someone obviously applied some pitch-shifting to MIke's vocal track on "...American Girls".

It's simultaneously hilarious and painful.
112  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Did Dennis really marry his second cousin? on: June 27, 2014, 08:32:57 PM
113  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: *Merged* Brian Wilson current album thread on: June 13, 2014, 04:59:50 PM

MAYBE working with these women gets Brian to work a little harder.

114  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson album update in Rolling Stone on: June 08, 2014, 05:51:02 PM

Nice! You go, Brian!
115  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Recent Pro-shot Mike & Bruce(and Foskett) videos on: June 01, 2014, 07:27:06 PM
Jeff really does still sound great on DWB! The entire band really nailed the tune beautifully.

While "Pisces Brothers" is a beautiful sentiment from Mike, the song just lacks something musically special. He should have collaborated with another writer with a broader musical palette. However, Scott's guitar solo was very tasteful and expertly executed.

116  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Brian playing bass on "Surfer Girl" - Oct. 2000 on: May 21, 2014, 03:00:47 PM
I recently dug out the video I shot at the October, 2000 Carl Wilson Foundation concert in Malibu and re-discovered a couple nice surprises I had forgotten about. One is contained in this video I just uploaded - Brian playing bass on Surfer Girl! And he is THE bass player, not just miming like he's done more recently. You can tell he was really concentrating on his playing and ends up doing a pretty good job overall. His vocal on the bridge is quite good too. The band vocals have sounded better though. I think they had a bad monitor mix. It was a pretty laid back affair - almost a Wilson family reunion and fans just hanging out with them.

Another highlight was Blondie Chaplin performing "Sail On Sailor" with Ricky Fataar on drums. I may upload that later.  Smiley

117  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: A \ on: April 28, 2014, 06:56:57 PM
Nice job! Hearing the various parts more discretely really brought a new found appreciation for the song. So many nuances that were previously buried in the mix - it clarifies the musicianship and quality that was more easily missed (at least for me) in the original mix.
118  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Carnie Wilson...Chopped!!! on: April 09, 2014, 06:46:27 PM
Just saw her on "Wife Swap" earlier this week. She swapped with Tracey Gold (from "Growing Pains"). It was actually quite entertaining. Seems Rob doesn't want to come out of the studio and join the family.

Not saying that Rob is just like Brian, but it's funny how women often marry guys much like their dad.
119  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian sings McCartney on new Macca Tribute Album on: April 07, 2014, 11:06:58 AM
I believe Brian said fairly recently that "Let It Be" was his favorite Beatles tune. I could see him pulling that one off.
120  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Have you heard Glen Campbell's Ghost on the Canvas? on: April 05, 2014, 07:09:58 PM
The entire album is mindblowing. Despite his age and sad diagnosis, Glen's voice and musical abilities are seemingly unfazed.

I also couldn't help but notice the participation of Roger Manning Jr. of Jellyfish fame contributing keyboards and vocals on the album. Maybe it's a coincidence that the songs flow from one to the other with brief musical interludes (some sounding very Jellyfish-like). Near the end there is even a beautifully haunting BB-like falsetto wordless vocal interlude. It reminds a bit of SMiLE in that regard.

Like AGD said, the whole album is outstanding.
121  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: New Monkees Fan on: April 02, 2014, 12:15:08 PM
Here's a story that will tie this thread back to Brian Wilson and the BBs......

Reading all this talk about "Papa Gene's Blues" reminded me of a something that happened backstage at one of Brian's Pet Sounds shows in 2000. I was fortunate enough to get backstage passes and attend sound check to one of Brian's Pet Sounds shows. At one point before the show, Jeff Foskett came up to me and my friend and asked what our story was. We began talking about all sorts of things, but at one point Jeff made the comment that my friend had a sort of Mickey Dolenz look about him. Jeff then told the story of how he ran into Mickey recently at Tower Records, and even though they had met/worked together before, Mickey acted like he didn't know Jeff. Funny.

Then I mentioned that I had seen Michael Nesmith perform a few years earlier and that the only Monkees tune he did that night was "Papa Gene's Blues". Then without hesitation Jeff launches into singing the song........ and it's a very wordy song....... and he didn't miss a note. It was quite surreal and very impressive! So obviously he had covered the song at some point in his career.
122  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: so why are the mfls vinyl/cd so good?! on: March 27, 2014, 02:45:02 PM

pressed on virgin vinyl and the QC is very rigid

And just what you would expect a MILF to demand.   Smiley
123  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Christopher Cross talks about Carl & Brian a bit and he was in DEEP PURPLE! on: March 25, 2014, 06:55:39 PM
Really great interview. Thanks so much for posting the link.

I was at the Carl Wilson Walk in 2000 where Christopher Cross was a featured performer. I'll never forget the first thing he said when he came on stage. "Brian Wilson taught me how to write songs and Carl Wilson taught me how to sing." Just like he stated in the interview. I also got to hold one of the first Carl Wilson Rickenbacker 12-strings that Billy Hinsche had brought to the beach at Malibu. If I had been a guitarist  and had an extra $5000 (or whatever it was going for) I would have bought one.

He clearly loved and respected Carl and it's so nice to hear him remind everyone of not only what an incredible musical legacy he left us all with, but what an incredible human being he was.
124  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What if they were all born as girls? on: March 22, 2014, 05:07:00 PM

big ol surfer big ol one
make my heart come all undone
do you love me do you
surfer dude surfer dude
my big ol surfer dude

i have watched you from the shore
riding on the oceans roar
do you love me do you
surfer dude surfer dude
my big ol surfer dude

we could ride the surf together
while our love has grown
on your woodie i will ride you
every place we go oh oh

so i say from me to you
i made all your dreams come true
etc etc

I almost did a spit take at "on your woodie i will ride you every place we go".

Classic post, stack!

I wonder what they would do with 409? Hmmm.......
125  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \ on: March 06, 2014, 07:35:33 AM
I know some people may think it's crazy, but I think Carl's swooning vocal at the end (doing the "You Still Believe in Me" melody) tops Brian's vocal of this same exact part on the original from Pet Sounds. By a lot, actually.

As absolutely great as Brian's is, Carl's just has that insane "Carl" thing about it that gives me chills. No foolin'. I've actually replayed that end part of the song quite a bit, I think it's *that* good. Almost tells me Carl was reallllly trying hard there (not that he didn't typically try hard to deliver good vocals anyway) in order to pay the utmost respect to one of the absolute holiest moments in the BB catalog ("You Still Believe in Me").

It's so weird because the song Brian's Back itself is so kinda overall "meh" - well meaning and ok musically/ lyrically in places (I think Mike was being very sincere and some of it works), but really super unbearably, unspeakably cheesy and/or straight up BAD in other parts... and then all of a sudden at the very end of the song, out pops one of my favorite moments in the whole BBs catalog.

It's such a giant WTF moment, and an example of what someone once posted on this board about no other band besides these guys having the juxtaposition of musical moments that could be considered "lard", juxtaposed with unspeakably sublime shimmering beauty.
It's surreal, really.

Wow! Very well said and my sentiments exactly! Carl's vocal at the end, for me, is also one of those BB moments of "unspeakably sublime shimmering beauty". "Juxtaposed" was also a word that kept coming to mind when I was writing that earlier post. Carl's vocal is just way WAY too good for that song.

The other thing you touched on is the difference between Brian's and Carl's falsetto voice. The thing that has always amazed me about Carl's falsetto is the fact that there is no clear discernible break between his full voice and his falsetto. His falsetto sounds pretty much like his full voice, at least when he wants it to - like the end of this song. And while Brian could easliy and smoothly transition to falsetto, you can clearly hear the difference. His falsetto voice has that distinctive reedy whiny quality. I love both, of course, but the way Carl was able to make his falsetto sound like an extension of his full voice has always amazed me.
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