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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2022 Tour Thread (Plus Archived 2021) on: July 23, 2022, 04:57:39 PM
I saw Brian open for Chicago in Saratoga, NY last week. I hated seeing it, but Brian seemed like he was almost dead. He only sang on GOK, Be My Baby, and Surfer Girl, and I could barely hear him. I really hope he's OK (or as OK as someone like Brian can be). (Part of me is wondering if he's having the same issues that caused him to cancel those 2018 shows, and that he didn't cancel this time around because of contractual obligations with Chicago or whoever handles their business.) The band sounded perfect, just like every previous time I've seen them, but Al and Matt carried the bulk of the show, with heavy assists from Blondie and Darian.
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Why are the Beach Boys charting so high at the moment? on: June 27, 2022, 08:14:07 AM
As I stated in the other thread (the SOS thread), the tide has been turning for the band for a while now. It’s mostly due to the millennials and Gen Z folks. This is a band that averaged a gain of 1500-2000 new Spotify followers a *day* for about 6 month’s time (currently averaging 1500 new a day per Chartmetric).  It’s even higher on YouTube. The age group of their fan base is younger compared to their peers in the 60s and 70s .

I’ve seen more than one post here and the other place  stating The Beach Boys would never been ranked along the classic rock greats like the Beatles and the Stones . Crazy part is, these are the only two places that say that ! Pretty much everyone else already has them on the same level. It seems like the only people who don’t give The Beach Boys their proper respect are their own fans

Yep. It’s like a part of the fandom has resigned itself to thinking that the Boys will never get respect.  And this why some of us are frustrated.  Saying the BB are “kitsch” really is an insult to The Beach Boys, their music, their artistry, and their talent.  The thing that Howie and others are trying to say is that the Boys DESERVE to be mentioned in the same breath as the Beatles and the Stones.  Their body of work is every bit as great as the Beatles et. al and has had almost as much as a cultural impact, too.  Calling them “kitsch” or “malt shop memories” sells their art and short and I, as a fan, am glad that there are people who are trying to change that.

I think a big part of the BBs' "dismissal", at least in the US, comes down to the fact that they generally didn't get airplay on classic rock radio stations.
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Carl and MSIA on: May 21, 2022, 07:22:21 PM
Was MSIA the same organization he wrote "Where I Belong" for?
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Beach Boys in the 1950 US Census on: May 11, 2022, 02:51:55 AM

It's been awhile since I listened to any of Murry "I'm A Genius Too" Wilson's album "The Many Moods...", and listening to that it's a total shambles of a song. It wanders, meanders, like walking blindfolded in a dark room musically. And respect to the session musicians who played that stuff, but damn it sounds like they didn't have enough in the budget to record a better take.

🎶One step, two step, talk about a new step, it's the Murry Wilson show🎶
5  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Entertainment Thread / Re: R.I.P. Rutger Hauer (23 January 1944--19 July 2019) on: March 12, 2022, 05:24:32 PM
I know this is an old post, but I was just rewatching The Last Kingdom, where he was in the first two episodes as a Danish Viking lord's father, and didn't even realize he'd died.
6  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Entertainment Thread / Re: R.I.P. Sean Connery (1930-2020) on: November 05, 2021, 09:52:04 AM
I'll take "Le Tits Now" for 400.
7  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Entertainment Thread / Re: Pork And Beans is better than Buddy Holly on: November 05, 2021, 09:50:38 AM

But neither are as good as El Scorcho, Pink Triangle, or Across the Sea.
8  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: RIP Norm Macdonald on: November 05, 2021, 09:48:35 AM
Rest in power, Turd Ferguson.
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Dennis Wilson 2021 on: November 05, 2021, 09:45:40 AM
Dude, WTF? You let fucking Keef Richards outlive you?
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: JEM Records Celebrates Brian Wilson - New Tribute Album due July 16th on: November 05, 2021, 09:37:07 AM
Another BW tribute album by a bunch of artists I've never heard of.  ‍♂️

I’d like to welcome you to the Old Farts Club. I’ve had the same indifference for about 20 years now and it worries me not one dot.

Think I've already been there for quite some time now.    There's been enough BW/BB tribute albums by no-name indie artists to make an endless supply of drink coasters for everyone to go around.  Aren't there any relevant artists that would like to participate in one of these things...?

The one artist on this I've heard of is Lisa Mychols. She's worked with Darian Sahanaja in the past, her first band made several appearances on a local Los Angeles TV show that was created by Domenic Priore, and once played in a band with the guy who played Cousin Oliver on The Brady Bunch.
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Board Down? on: November 02, 2021, 06:44:13 AM
Before the mass exodus a few years back, he who will not be named (and always thought he was right) would, in this situation, like clockwork, be making snarky (and annoying) comments about the site owner not paying his bills.
12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 60th Anniversary Tour on: November 02, 2021, 06:34:53 AM
I'd bet the "60th Anniversary Tour" will be merely a string of Mike and Bruce dates.
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys lineup in Cleveland - June 1, 1991 on: November 02, 2021, 06:25:52 AM
This photo is from July 28, 1991, and they have a sax player, but it's not Richie Cannata:

And Bruce is ripping out an EPIC mic adjusting solo!
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: Seeking Information on a Very Odd BB Bootleg on: June 28, 2021, 04:55:52 AM
Can't say exactly what each track is for sure without hearing, but it appears to be a Mike-centric compilation of unreleased Beach Boys tracks and some ostensibly Mike "solo" tracks, some (but not all) of which involve Adrian Baker.

"At the Hop" is a  BB '85 outtake. "Running Bear" is a 15 Big Ones-era outtake. "Michael Row the Boat Ashore" is a 1977 era BB outake. "Hungry Heart" is a solo Mike track from, I believe, the late 90s, from a Springsteen tribute album. I honestly can't remember if Baker is involved in that one. "Sealed with a Kiss" is most likely the Bruce track from the '83 "Rock and Roll City" Radio Shack album.

I'm guessing most of the rest of the tracks are taken from mostly Baker-involved Mike projects such as the Union 76 gas station album from 1998 and/or its predecessors ("A Baker's Dozen", "Catch a Wave", etc.) recorded with Adrian Baker.

A lot of Mike-Adrian Baker stuff seems to float out there in the ether often unattributed. Mike did a bunch of weird, kitschy stuff in the 80s in particular that is hard to nail down. Those Hyatt Regency jingles. The "Be True to Your Bud" single. Beyond the seemingly full banded and titled Adrian Baker-helmed albums/compilations, there are other Baker-related tracks that just kind of float out there. I think there are even some Baker BB-themed tracks that don't have any actual BB involvement (and I'm talking after the era when Baker first started playing with the BBs; I know pre-Beach Boys he did that BB medley, etc.).

Baker and Love even had a song on the Karate Kid soundtrack.
15  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Harrison's 𝐴𝑙𝑙 𝑇ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑔𝑠 𝑀𝑢𝑠𝑡 𝑃𝑎𝑠𝑠 turns 50 on: June 28, 2021, 04:42:39 AM
George Harrison's All Things Must Pass, quite possibly the best solo album from a Beatle, turned 50 yesterday.  One of my favorite albums.  To commemorate the anniversary they released a brand new remix of the title track ( and it sounds quite stellar without all the excess Spector clutter.  The Harrison camp seems to be hinting at a full remix of the album next year.  If that is the case then this is exciting news!!

Don't you mean Stig O Hara's All Things Must Rut?
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Love and Mercy Sequel on: June 27, 2021, 08:54:51 AM
Sorry to bring up this old thread but I didn't want to start a new one. I just came across a making-of of "Amadeus" and was astonished how much Tom Hulce looks, and even acts like Carl in the 90s:

Start at ca. 10:11 mins.

Hulce will always be Larry "Pinto" Kroger to me.
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Oh god on: June 21, 2021, 05:22:54 PM
The only ones I even recognize besides Mike and Bruce are Totten, Cowsill, and Christian Love. I'm assuming one of those guys is Eichenberger, and maybe Tim Bonhomme and Randell Kirsch are in there as well???
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: California Calling on: June 21, 2021, 05:14:23 PM
Where I Belong was by far the most single worthy track on that album.
19  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 2 Disc Very Best of on: January 30, 2021, 04:50:40 PM
Why haven’t The Beach Boys gotten a proper 2 cd very best of?

I have my issues with sounds of summer but that’s another convo.

Aerosmith, allman bros, Chicago, doobie bros, the doors, Eagles, Fleetwood Mac all of gotten this treatment. Seems to me The Beach Boys deserve it. And 50 big ones doesn’t count.

Do Endless Summer+Spirit of America not count? Or Greatest Hits 1, 2, and 3 from the 90s? Sounds of Summer+Warmth of the Sun?
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Al Still Talking 60th on: January 26, 2021, 08:43:48 PM
I guess I'm the only one that yearns to hear something like:
I was reelin' and rockin' with Barbara Ann,
singing California Girls and holding hands,
on a surfin' safari to the shores of Kokomo

Now here we are in 2021,
still having good times and fun, fun, fun
in my 409 we just go, go, go

Summer In Paradise Part 2: Electric Brian's Back-aloo (The Legend of Bruce's Gold)
21  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: UPDATE: Brian performing on Colbert 6/4 at 11:35 PM ET on CBS on: June 15, 2020, 08:10:44 PM
Lovely performance from Brian. Frail but beautiful.

Seen a lot of comments on social media saying I love Brian but won't watch Colbert. Presumably a political thing? I know nothing about US chat shows.

Possibly. Colbert regularly dismantles Trump on his show. Although to be fair, he does that with every politician who's doing a bad job, but obviously Trump is currently the main subject due to him being president. Colbert even created his own cartoon series "Our cartoon president" which is cureently in it's second or even third season (I'm not really following that).
So, I think your guess may very well be correct.

Prior to the Late Show, Colbert had his own satirical political pundit show on Comedy Central (called The Colbert Report, pronounced re-pore), where his character was a send-up of conservative cable news talking heads.
22  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Blondie answers why he left the band on: May 28, 2020, 09:05:11 PM
I think the trajectory for the Boys continues relatively the same as it did go down.

Blondie and Rickey definitely added some spice, and their songs were good contributions for sure. But I don't count them as such a force internally and politically (band-wise) to have much of power to swing things in a direction. Do we really think they were given 'voting rights' to the inner band politics? No way.

They WERE Beach Boys at the time, but I doubt they had much power. Essentially, glorified backing band members.

Do you really think that they'd have kept both of them into the 90's? 2000's? I think from the start they were going to be used and dropped. I'm sure they knew that, too.

Ricky could have stayed until Carl died, especially after losing Dennis in 1983 assuming that still happens. Was there ever a debate about what to do after Dennis died, as in possibly bringing back Ricky?

They already had Kowalski filling in for Dennis half the time anyway, keeping him on was probably their easiest option.
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 1448 Laurel Way on: January 17, 2020, 12:11:34 AM
Attached is a clipping from the classified section of the March 21, 1965 issue of “The Los Angeles Times” (page 342).

1448 Laurel Way is listed for $99,500 – the equivalent of nearly $820,000 in today’s dollars.

Modified, but valued at just short of $4M now.

Damn, it would take me 4-5 months to make enough money to make the monthly payment on that place.
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Live At Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY. June 14th 1974, National FM-Broadcast on: October 23, 2019, 09:16:23 AM
Is this legit official? A bootleg of this show has been circulating online for over a decade now.
25  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Stone Temple Pilots cover “She Knows Me Too Well,” c. 1994 on: October 12, 2019, 08:00:16 AM
I'd always pegged STP as the beginning of the never ending onslaught of post-grunge (Bush, Live, Creed, Nickelback, Staind, Seether, etc.), but after hearing both this cover and an acoustic version of Plush a while back, I'm thinking maybe it's time to reevaluate their back catalog. They actually sound pretty fuckin' awesome when they turn off the distortion.
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