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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: June 03, 2021, 05:23:39 PM
Just pre-ordered my 5CD from Amazon, and will pick up the LPs upon release at our last remaining local record store this summer!
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2020 Tour Thread on: May 30, 2021, 05:52:15 PM
The Beach Boys' Mike Love talks upcoming San Diego concert

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWBJnLTQySk

Tiny takeaway from the typical shlock is Mike not just speculating but confirming a TV Special/Documentary? in the works for next year.
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2020 Tour Thread on: May 29, 2021, 01:12:15 PM
When was it confirmed that "Feel Flows" is being added to the setlist?
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2020 Tour Thread on: May 28, 2021, 01:32:50 PM
I don't think you'll hear a single one of those (aside from the occasional "Disney Girls").

I saw the "Wild Honey" tour in 2017. The setlist included ONE song from the album...and it WASN'T "Wild Honey"!

"Feel Flows", when out of context, sounds like generic hippie/surfer lingo. I suspect there will be absolutely no mention of the tour name or its relevance whatsoever, and 95% of the audience at these shows won't care.
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boy’s Favorites on: May 11, 2021, 06:59:20 PM
I think there's an interview from C50 where each member is asked while all together. I remember Brian saying "California Girls" and Bruce saying "The Warmth of The Sun". I don't remember if every member actually got to answer the question.
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson 2020 Live Thread on: May 04, 2021, 07:44:46 PM
To anyone still thinking ahead to any sort of 60th Anniversary tour, between both touring bands' schedules, March- July 2022 are already booked up. I think it's safe to say that anything pertaining to a 60th ann. reunion will most likely just be a one-off affair.
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Why Do Carl and Dennis Always Wear Beach Boys T-shirts? on: April 25, 2021, 02:44:52 PM
I can't cite a source or the validity of this notion, but I've always heard it purported that in that era, Dennis would often not have a shirt at all and would literally just grab one from that evening's merch.
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Most important Beach Boys members in vocal blends? on: March 22, 2021, 07:08:15 PM
The long answer is already above, detailing all of them and why...the short "gun to my head" answer is

Lead Vocals: Mike Love
Harmony Vocals: Carl Wilson

They are the two most irreplaceable figures in the foreground and background of the overall "signature sound" of The Beach Boys.
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Al Jardine teases 2021 BB reunion concerts! on: March 17, 2021, 01:36:41 PM
It is also worth noting that Mike and Bruce have rescheduled dates scattered from May 2021 - April 2022, which would make things interesting.....

Someone's going to have to make a difficult call to the Webster County Fair...

 LOL

My point being, I've been getting emails as recently as today about shows that "The Beach Boys" have just rescheduled for April of 2022. On the same day that Al is talking reunion, Mike is announcing shows with his band.
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Al Jardine teases 2021 BB reunion concerts! on: March 17, 2021, 01:07:02 PM
I read that as if to simply point out that the anniversary is at the conclusion of 2021. Based on other interviews, it sounds like this would be in 2022.

Also worth noting, and of course I've no idea where the article is, but I remember reading in Early 2011, an interview with Al where he said nearly the same exact thing about just a few "tribute" concerts (I think back then he said LA, DC, and NYC) and maybe a tour (and album) after. This is essentially the same response. The "tribute" came to fruition on Grammy Night in 2012. It is also worth noting that Mike and Bruce have rescheduled dates scattered from May 2021 - April 2022, which would make things interesting.....
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys re-unite for “Add Some Music to Your Day” re-recording. on: February 27, 2021, 11:23:21 AM
several takeaways:

-Mike sounds really good, and this proves he doesn't need to rely on autotune
Unless I'm confusing my sound processing, I believe he is autotuned here.

Most of them are heavily dunked in autotune on the whole track.

I'll listen to it again on proper speakers.  Even if there's some autotune assistance here, it ain't anywhere near stuff like the Mike UTL Help Me Rhonda, which I guess means the bar was set so robotic that it's a breath of fresh air to have stuff sound less robo than that, relatively speaking.

Definitely. UTL's "Help Me Rhonda" was more autotune than vocal.
12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys re-unite for “Add Some Music to Your Day” re-recording. on: February 27, 2021, 09:00:47 AM
several takeaways:

-Mike sounds really good, and this proves he doesn't need to rely on autotune
Unless I'm confusing my sound processing, I believe he is autotuned here.

Most of them are heavily dunked in autotune on the whole track.
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: California Music Presents Add Some Music on: February 27, 2021, 08:58:29 AM
Any explanation as to Brian's absence?
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys bought on: February 22, 2021, 07:56:49 PM
Maybe we’ll finally get Record Store Day vinyl releases of Lei’d in Hawaii and Adult Child.

Bring. It!!!  LOL
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: shirt on: February 21, 2021, 05:59:17 PM
I looked it up out of curiosity. FWIW- Hot Topic has had this same shirt on and off for at least six years now, since I first saw it. They've also carried a black one with a "worn" looking KTSA album cover snow globe image on it.
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys bought on: February 19, 2021, 09:01:11 AM
All very interesting and exciting. As for the future, I think ten more years of seeing original Beach Boys is being generous. I'd like to think that Alan and David could still hold their own on stage here and there in their late 80's...but I see no possible way at all that Mike, Brian, and Bruce could be performing by then. I say go big on the 60th Anniversary, and hang it up. Have the original guys designate a group of young guys to be the touring band, and maybe once in awhile an original member pops in on the encore to give their blessing and hum along to "Barbara Ann" every now and then.
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New article about the 1968 BB-Maharishi tour on: February 14, 2021, 09:50:41 AM
My Uncle that introduced me to the band saw them in Baltimore on this tour. He actually just passed in September and of course, I used "Till I Die" in the limited gathering we could have. It was his second time seeing them. From stories he re-told me, he was a bit more than inebriated that evening, but recalled the band playing great and then everyone just talking and some even booing during the Maharishi. He also said that even though the band was in good shape what he remembered most was, Dennis completely stole the show over anything else that night with girls STILL screaming in a "Beatlemania" kind of way any time there was any attention towards him!
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Top five bad career moves on: January 01, 2021, 08:24:01 PM
Mike can't even resist literally touching the crowd. He's still bumping fists from the stage.
19  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Which Beach Boys albums/songs do you consider to be psychedelic, if any? on: December 26, 2020, 12:27:57 PM
Of course the music surrounding smile has its moments...as does "Friends" and "2020"...I guess I'd say that's about it? None of them are psychedelic albums by any means, though.
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Any indications of releases next year as a tie-in with the 60th anniversary? on: December 22, 2020, 04:33:04 PM
I would expect anything like this to take place in 2022 since the 50th was in 2012, and because I'd imagine at the bare minimum, at least the first quarter of 2021 will still be pretty f'ed up by COVID, if not the first half of the year...
21  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Top five bad career moves on: December 21, 2020, 07:17:27 PM
On the original topic, there are quite a few, actually a laundry list of bad career moves that could fill a long list.

But for me, in my opinion, there is one that stands out above the rest.

When Carl died, the Beach Boys name should have been retired and not offered as a license to a sole original member. That decision alone has done more to divide the fans and followers than perhaps any other single decision in the band's history. If there cannot be a Wilson and a Love and a Jardine on stage performing and being billed as The Beach Boys, there should have been no Beach Boys. Is it any indication of the seriousness of the arrangement in general that the name can be used for live shows but NOT new recordings unless the aforementioned original members are involved? Why is that even a stipulation if it's all and only about generating revenue for the parent company BRI? When you ponder that question, the situation overall starts taking shape and realization sets in that there is more at stake with that name than a franchise to be licensed.

Some issues are about more than making money or appeasement. That's my take and it's been my take since 1998. No Wilsons, no Beach Boys. There were other ways to handle this after Carl's passing.
I was very late to finally accepting Mike's Beach Boys. Finally saw them September of 2019, and it was a great show; all the hits, a few "deep cuts", and a few new songs; but I agree, the name should have been retired when Carl died.
The Beach Boys sure had a strange touring operation for many years. The first was having their leader, Brian, not part of the touring band from 66 onwards. Can you imagine going to see the Kinks in 1966 and Ray Davies is not there? (note: this did happen on one European tour that year - I'm sure someone else remembers the name of his replacement) The Beatles without John Lennon? (and there was that one tour where Jimmy Nicol subbed for Ringo - a situation none of the guys were happy about)
If the bandleader needs some time off to focus on making records, then why can't the band take a break from live shows?
This created a situation where it was seemingly okay for various members to pull a disappearing act - even Mike has done it a couple times - 1970 when Brian filled in for him, and 1990, when Gerry Beckley toured with them. Did Al ever miss a show, or an entire tour? I saw the  Beach Boys at the Puyallup Fair in 1985, and Carl was absent - Brian took his spot, if you can call it that. I think everybody knew back in 1981 when Carl took an extended break from the band to do his solo stuff, but what happened in 1985? They had a new album out, and the highlights of it were mostly Carl's. I was disappointed I never got to hear "It's Gettin' Late" sung live.

Amen. This is exactly why I placed the second on my list:

2. Rapidly Replacing Brian Wilson with Glen Campbell, Bruce Johnston etc.

It set a precedent that is STILL snowballing. It's been a couple years since I've seen Mike and Bruce now, but between 2010-2018 I saw them ten times. Every one of those concerts, I made a point to listen to the folks talking around me, and even talk with some of them about their knowledge of just exactly what and who they are saying. Usually, everyone knows Mike Love is there and Brian Wilson is not...but beyond that, it's hysterically sad. I've had folks after telling me how they grew up with the band, soundtrack to their life blah de blah de blah...ask if any of the Wilsons were on stage that night? Most of the time, no one in their crowd cares - and this is something that has been growing as a result of Brian's rapid replacement in 1965.

On the otherhand, I've seen Brian's band five times between 2013-2018, and everyone was always very in the know of who and what they were seeing. Totally different crowd. I'd bet Brian, Alan, David, and Blondie could all walk clear through the center of a Mike & Bruce concert and not get recognized by one person. Hell, I bet if Mike and Bruce took their ball caps off, they could walk through the crowd and not get recognized either.
22  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Top five bad career moves on: December 20, 2020, 03:09:36 AM
As for not appearing at Monterey, well, that can be argued. Bruce concluded that it turned them into surfing Doris Days in the minds of the public. They had already long since put the candy-stripes behind them and had enough mature material to take on the best.

I'm not trying to split hairs, but they most certainly were still wearing stripes in '67.
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Top five bad career moves on: December 19, 2020, 09:24:06 PM
1. Abandoning Smile
2. Rapidly Replacing Brian Wilson with Glen Campbell, Bruce Johnston etc.
3. Rapidly returning to NEVER-ENDING touring after Dennis Wilson's death.
4. Rapidly returning to NEVER-ENDING touring in the current arrangement after Carl Wilson's death.
5. Kokomo

Each of these things continue to cheapen their existence (well, except number one.)

I would argue that not appearing at Monterey was actually a smart move. What were they going to do? Pop on stage in their stripes and rip through Papa-Oom-Mow-Mow for the likes of Hendrix?
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Billy Gibbons & Mike Love – 409 on: December 15, 2020, 06:17:41 AM
That was better than expected...but my expectations were pretty low. LOL
25  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What was the highest Heroes and Villians could have possibly charted? on: December 10, 2020, 11:04:26 AM
I know we're talking about America's summertime band, but I think this is one exception where a non-summer release could have done the record good. Autumn of '66, with "Good Vibrations" and so on from SMiLE, probably would've gone further...or maybe it would've been lost in the explosion of "Good Vibrations"?  Huh
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