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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Is it fair to call for an artist to quit? on: December 02, 2021, 10:40:23 AM
Thanks for your well thought out post, positivemusic.

I will say that of the concerts I've been to in the last five years, only at one have I seen Brian disinterested (Pet Sounds tour). The rest of the concerts he has been engaged with the audience, and seemingly happy to be there (especially the most recent one I went to right before the Covid shutdown). And those positive concerts sounded amazing - people all around us having an awesome time. I was fortunate enough to meet Brian backstage at one concert and he had the biggest smile on his face when he greeted me...He didn't at all seem disinterested to be there. I've seen Brian perform soundchecks where he is totally into directing the band through certain songs - he is in control, and it looks like he loves every minute of it.


That’s surprising to hear. The last two times I saw him, on the Christmas album tour in 2018 and The Zombies tour in 2019, he wasn’t engaged at all and it just made me sad. I’ve seen him many times and I decided then that I wouldn’t see him again. I don’t think it’s necessarily that he doesn’t want to be there, I’m not worried about him being exploited or anything like that, I trust that he’s in good hands. I think he’s just too old and tired at this point to give an engaging performance. I love the band too but if Brian is just going to sit motionless at the keyboard when he doesn’t have a lead vocal, it’s honestly just uncomfortable to watch.
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson: Long Promised Road (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack) on: December 01, 2021, 10:05:55 PM
I really do not like the new recording of “Long Promised Road”. I’ve enjoyed when Blondie sings it in the live shows but the recording just seems poorly mixed and the vocal blend on the chorus sounds sloppy. Given that it’s the title of the movie, I was expecting something better.
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian going on tour with Chicago next summer on: November 30, 2021, 01:57:33 PM
I wonder if they’ll have Al sing some Chicago songs and Robert Lamm sing some Beach Boys songs like they did in the old days.
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Billy Hinsche 1951-2021 on: November 20, 2021, 06:55:26 PM
So sad to hear about this. A talented singer and musician and so important to The Beach Boys legacy, probably should have been made an official member at some point. Definitely gone too soon.

Sail on, Billy… https://youtu.be/FkYuGN7zyho
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Who here wants a Beach Boys version of Disney+'s 'Get Back'? on: November 16, 2021, 08:10:23 PM
There’s not a lot of film footage of The Beach Boys in the studio at their peak. I don’t think they ever allowed anyone to document them as extensively as The Beatles did during that time.  The only thing I could think of that might be cool is the raw footage from the 1976 TV special if it exists, if there’s more of that concert for instance and more rehearsal and interview footage, I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s enough for a full-length documentary there.
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love just announced a \ on: October 07, 2021, 07:55:02 PM
I thought The Monkees were done after their current tour dates but I guess money talks. From what I’ve seen though, Nesmith doesn’t look too well these days. He can’t play guitar anymore and walks with a cane. I figured they were wrapping up so that he could retire.
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 60th Anniversary Tour on: October 01, 2021, 09:31:57 AM
I think the chances of such a tour are very poor to begin with. As for The Honeys, they’ve been retired from performing for many years, at least Marilyn has, and it might also bring back painful memories with the way her and Brian’s marriage dissolved.
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: September 04, 2021, 06:02:56 AM
Personally, I would love them to go with more of the lyrical nod to the project naming (a la Sunshine Tomorrow), though I suppose I can understand why they wouldn't.

Ooh they could call the next one “Beyond Tomorrow”.
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: September 03, 2021, 03:45:01 PM
California Saga would also be a good simple but appropriate title.
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: September 01, 2021, 06:17:57 PM
Not criticizing the set necessarily because it is fantastic but I wish the live selection on the Sunflower disc was just slightly different! Would have liked to see these two performances included instead of the two 15 Big Ones songs (which I know both dated back to the Sunflower sessions but still felt out of place to me).

“Cool Cool Water” TV Performance 1971
https://youtu.be/rUcDojcRiFM

“Forever” Central Park 1971
https://youtu.be/9hyp9b72jSE

Was also surprised to see a live version of “Feel Flows” wasn’t include on the Surf’s Up disc. This is the only live version of it I’ve heard but if it’s the only one that exists, I can understand it being left off the set as Carl is definitely struggling with the vocals (probably safe to say he was not sober that night). The Charles Lloyd flute solo is killer though, it’s a shame if there’s not a better performance from that period in the vaults. https://youtu.be/W1If_VGaiF0
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread on: September 01, 2021, 08:54:11 AM
I’ve been saying for a long time that they should be equally billed, especially when it became apparent that Al was not just a special guest and a permanent fixture in the touring band. Maybe it’s because they’ve built up the name “Brian Wilson” to be a sort of brand at this point. Al seems to be a really humble guy and I give him a lot of credit for that. But they’ve been touring together for almost a decade now, I don’t see any reason why it shouldn’t be “Brian Wilson & Al Jardine” on the marquee. But like I said, Al is humble and it seems like he wants to be supportive of Brian above everything. I don’t think he particularly cares that much if he gets a decent amount of lead vocals spots, though I agree that I think he should be more heavily featured.
12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread on: August 31, 2021, 08:12:52 AM
Here's the majority of "It's OK":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUsO5DLOHtk&list=FL0dftRhJ76dCyJthC4OcDRw&index=2

Can't tell if it's supposed to be a Matt lead or if he's just taking it over because Brian's not singing. Kinda seems like the latter as the verse starts. I dunno. The band and Matt sound excellent. Brian looks completely blank. I'm sure he's less so when he's more engaged singing a lead. But at this stage, if they want to do gigs, I'm not opposed to it being more of a "Brian Wilson Band" concert and have Brian just come on stage for a set of songs where it's mostly his leads.

The problem with that is with Brian’s mobility issues, it’s easier for him to not leave the stage. But yeah, it’s uncomfortable to watch when he just sits still like that. It’s a shame he doesn’t even seem to attempt to sing backing vocals that much anymore.
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2021/2022 Tour Thread on: August 30, 2021, 07:22:04 PM
anyone see Bri & co last night? here's the reported setlist which looks great. has Brian done It's OK before?

Doesn’t look like it though it was done on the 50th anniversary tour but I think this is the first time Brian has sung it since then. There’s a video on Instagram of Brian singing “Add Some Music to Your Day”. He sounded good and sang all of the lead parts himself which he wasn’t able to do on a lot of the songs when I saw him in 2019.
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: August 28, 2021, 08:56:11 AM
Just got my copy today, so excited to dig into this!
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Song: \ on: August 13, 2021, 02:53:30 PM
By the way the BBs prerecorded a lot for that 86 special and I believe Brian’s vocals were fixed in post dubbing afterwards. I kind of like the song but the 86 special itself was pretty dreadful in my opinion. Really cheesy 80s-Joe Piscopo’s parts are really cringe inducing. Brian looks great but acts very stilted and ill at ease and the crowd looks like they were just there to be on TV rather than having any real love for the BBs

Oh god, the Piscopo stuff is awful. Also appearances from Gloria Loring and Belinda Carlisle who were clearly there to promote their own current singles rather than to actually pay tribute to the band. Just an extremely corny and cynical product of 1980s network TV. It does have its moments though, like Ray Charles singing “Sail On Sailor” and Carl singing “Heaven” in tribute to Dennis.
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys (Mike/Bruce) appearing on CNN 4th of July special on: July 05, 2021, 07:05:53 AM
I’m gonna be honest, I actually thought that was pretty okay. They sounded much better than I would have expected. Definitely not the embarrassment the Mark McGrath performance of a couple of years ago was.
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows delayed till 8-26 on: July 02, 2021, 02:33:39 PM
Covid has caused a lot of physical media manufacturing delays from my experience.

Yeah, warehouses in general haven't recovered. There's huge discrepancies between demand and supply right now. I work for Starbucks and we run out of product so quickly and when we get a supply shipment, we have no idea if we're going to get everything we need. And I think the combination of low pay, poor working conditions, and lack of good healthcare has caused a shortage in warehouse employees too.
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Beach Boys channel is coming back to SiriusXM on: July 01, 2021, 01:43:21 PM
Glad to hear this is back! Here's what I heard.

Susie Cincinatti
Help Me, Rhonda
Let Him Run Wild (call-in request)
Surfer Girl (Live 50th Anniversary Tour, at first I thought that this one is mixed somewhat surprisingly well, you could pick out numerous voices in the harmony but then Brian is slightly and unnecessarily autotuned on the bridge)
Fun, Fun, Fun
Kona Coast (wasn't expecting to hear this one)
(David Marks commentary)
Catch a Wave
Yeah! (Bruce and Terry song, lol this is awful)
Honkin' Down the Highway (plenty of Al Jardine leads in this set)
Do You Wanna Dance?
Sail On, Sailor
The Surfer Moon
(Bruce Johnston commentary)
Still Surfin' (another one I definitely wasn't expecting to hear)
California Girls
(Brian Wilson commentary)
Hang On to Your Ego
Good Timin'
I Get Around
Good Vibrations (I think this was one of the Lei'd in Hawaii rehearsal versions)
Surf's Up (with an intro promoting the Feel Flows box set though didn't specify if this particular mix is from the box, it is the standard album version either way)
(David Marks commentary)
Rock and Roll Music
Maybe I Don't Know (I've always thought this '85 track was underrated)
19  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Beach Boys (Mike/Bruce) appearing on CNN 4th of July special on: June 24, 2021, 10:45:54 AM
To be more specific, The Beach Boys with John Stamos will be performing.  Undecided

https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/24/politics/cnn-specal-event-july-4/index.html
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Top five bad career moves on: January 02, 2021, 10:50:31 AM
Video from NYE at Mar-a-Lago

It looks like Mike and Dean Torrence  performing Kokomo (:31 into the video)

https://youtu.be/RRwtDKguyso?t=31

Not a mask worn in sight. Did Mike get tested before performing? Did anyone in his band? Like for f***’s sake, politics aside, this is not safe!
Well Florida has been pretty good in dealing with corona as compared to New York and California where they are so strict on masks. Weird eh?


“Florida breaks record with 17,000+ coronavirus cases in one day“
https://www.tampabay.com/news/health/2020/12/31/florida-breaks-record-with-more-than-17000-coronavirus-cases-reported-in-one-day/
Well isn't that something. So why is California where we can see people walking alone on the beach and driving alone wearing masks, on huge lockdown still soaring then? Testing? No testing?

Because it's a huge population and it's not a total lockdown. Keeping stores and restaurants open and allowing people to eat indoors is not helping at all. I'm not taking the sides of any states or governors, they're all doing terribly right now. I live in New Jersey and we were doing great in May/June but then Murphy lifted restrictions and we're right back where we started. And I absolutely blame him for that. This isn't a partisan thing. Health experts were warning this would happen since it started and nobody listened to them.
21  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Top five bad career moves on: January 02, 2021, 04:43:42 AM
Video from NYE at Mar-a-Lago

It looks like Mike and Dean Torrence  performing Kokomo (:31 into the video)

https://youtu.be/RRwtDKguyso?t=31

Not a mask worn in sight. Did Mike get tested before performing? Did anyone in his band? Like for f***’s sake, politics aside, this is not safe!
Well Florida has been pretty good in dealing with corona as compared to New York and California where they are so strict on masks. Weird eh?


“Florida breaks record with 17,000+ coronavirus cases in one day“
https://www.tampabay.com/news/health/2020/12/31/florida-breaks-record-with-more-than-17000-coronavirus-cases-reported-in-one-day/
22  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Top five bad career moves on: January 01, 2021, 12:09:21 PM
Video from NYE at Mar-a-Lago

It looks like Mike and Dean Torrence  performing Kokomo (:31 into the video)

https://youtu.be/RRwtDKguyso?t=31

Not a mask worn in sight. Did Mike get tested before performing? Did anyone in his band? Like for f***’s sake, politics aside, this is not safe!
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Rare live version of “Soul Searchin'” from 2004 on: November 19, 2020, 01:38:11 PM
This was posted today on Brian’s official YouTube page. Man, he was in great voice on that tour!
https://youtu.be/nsFgdQjlmfM
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Why is Gettin' In Over My Head so hard to hear?? on: November 13, 2020, 04:22:32 PM

    Only 2 of the Gettin' In Over My Head tracks are playable on Spotify, for example. Is there some weird publishing issue??




The two available tracks were on the Playback Anthology compilation from a few years back. The album itself has been out of circulation for a long time now.
25  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New Mike Love interview on: October 26, 2020, 01:24:21 PM
I still wonder why he never went the surgical route. Just read a book from a former lead singer of Paul Revere and the Raiders, he went for a transplant around 2001. Said it hurt like hell, had to wear a soft cap for several months - but Mike could do that and no one would be wiser. It's not a cheap procedure, but that shouldn't be a problem for Mike.

He's not against being photographed without a hat on - there are several hat-less photos in his autobiography - but that's offstage in private moments. At this point, I think he just sees the hats as part of his image.

Kinda like how Art Garfunkel would wear a curly wig on the Simon & Garfunkel reunion tours since that was part of his image, he has no problem being photographed bald otherwise.
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