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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys Ch 105 Sirius XM Good Vibrations on: September 17, 2021, 10:17:25 PM
Iconic has done a great job so far. Really, there's no reason there can't be a *permanent* Beach Boys channel. When you consider their vast catalog *as a band* -- studio albums, concert albums, a ton of archival releases -- plus their solo material, outside projects, covers and influences (both inspired by and inspiring TO The Beach Boys), and the possibilities of talk shows...it could easily be done.

Agreed - several other bands/artists have permanent channels (i.e. The Beatles, Elvis, Tom Petty, U2, Jimmy Buffett, etc.).  As you say there is certainly enough content out there to make it worthwhile. 
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Smile Influence on Keepin' The Summer Alive Album? on: September 16, 2021, 06:53:28 PM
Specifically on Goin' On, that vocal hook sounds so similar to the vocal snippet that plays before the string outro on the Smile Sessions version of Heroes and Villains. Is there any proven influence, or is it just a coincidence as far as we can tell?

Actually the influence is originally from Les Paul and Mary Ford's hit "How High The Moon". 10 years ago this week I made and posted this video about that vocal segment that Brian used and reused multiple times, take a listen to the audio examples and see what you think:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmdQ0jc6rQg

Wow, I've always loved "How High The Moon" but never made that connection to that vocal section Brian loved so much.  Very cool.
3  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / Smiley Smilers Who Make Music / Re: New YouTube Channel on: May 01, 2021, 07:58:14 PM
Listened to a couple of them. Really, really nice!

Thanks Rocker, I appreciate it!
4  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / Smiley Smilers Who Make Music / Re: Rocker's youtube channel on: May 01, 2021, 07:57:48 PM
Both tracks sounded great Rocker - nice clean sound, especially on the guitar.  What do you use for recording (DAW-wise)?
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys Fantasy Sample Library on: April 08, 2021, 08:57:18 PM
Great topic - there are some cool sounds in EW's Fab Four library, and a Beach Boys equivalent would be fantastic.  I think the combo sounds that Joshilyn suggested in particular would be neat to be able to play around with.  There are different sounds scattered within the EW libraries that can give you a decent approximation at times, but it would be wonderful to have them all right at your fingertips, particularly in conjunction with the different echo/reverb options in Spaces II.
6  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / Smiley Smilers Who Make Music / New YouTube Channel on: March 31, 2021, 08:12:57 PM
Hey Everyone!  Long-time member here - haven't really posted in awhile but still check the board almost daily.

Anyway, as I recall I shared some of my older Beach Boys covers on here eons ago, but wanted to share some newer ones on a new YouTube channel I've made.  I'm always working on a handful of them it seems, so there are more to come - there are also a handful of originals and other covers on there.

Link is below, as well as a link to my SoundCloud which has more songs that I haven't made videos for yet.

Enjoy, and thank you for listening!

https://www.youtube.com/user/petsnds111/videos

https://www.soundcloud.com/user-677209605

7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys Channel on Sirius XM on: August 22, 2018, 09:21:40 PM
Much like the end of C50, even though we knew from the start that it was intended to be a limited run, it is sad to see this channel gone so quickly.  Hopefully they found that enough people listened for them to at least consider bringing it back in the future, even if only during the summer (although I think there is more than enough material to fill the channel year-round and still keep it fresh).
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Everyone back together for a Beach Boys Q&A for Sirius XM? on: July 24, 2018, 06:56:54 PM
As a longtime fan, first concert 1969, I really could care less. It's over. With the exception of Al this is a vocal group that can't sing anymore. It does make me laugh however when I she how giddy everyone gets at the prospect of a useless Q&A.
If anything further were to come out of this, I would imagine it would just be a tour or a few shows. I can't picture these guys agreeing to do one more album. The RPO thing is selling, probably better than a set of all new songs would.
Whatever. It's just nice that they are speaking to each other again.

Agreed - I don't really see the benefit of another album at this point.  TWGMTR was the perfect last Beach Boys album, in my opinion (with the perfect last song).  Plus, I would be shocked if Mike would agree to another album with Brian in full control again.
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Surf's up (1971 version) on: June 30, 2018, 08:00:45 PM
It's such a powerful and well-written song that I don't think it's possible to do a "bad" version, but the 1971 version has always been my least favorite.  As much as I love Carl's voice, and can't imagine several tracks working without it (God Only Knows, Good Vibrations, etc.), I don't think anyone but Brian can truly do this song justice.  For me, the version from the Smile Sessions is definitive.
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys Channel on Sirius XM on: June 14, 2018, 07:29:13 PM
Also heard Cuddle up, followed by Carl's The Grammy. And A Day in The Life of a Tree earlier and Brian's There's So Many.  Great track list today.

Agreed, I was listening during this sequence as well - first time I've heard any of those tracks played.  Also heard "Surf's Up" from BWPS today, followed (jarringly) by Kokomo.
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys Channel on Sirius XM on: May 24, 2018, 08:03:00 PM
And now "Be Here In The Morning" - excellent.
12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys Channel on Sirius XM on: May 24, 2018, 07:39:33 PM
The songs are definitely a hair faster (which is a bit disconcerting at times), but I agree with what others have said - great mix of songs, a pleasant surprise for sure.  Who would have thought we would ever hear a double-play from Love You, as I just heard, on the radio (satellite or otherwise)?
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: RIP David Anderle on: September 02, 2014, 08:02:52 PM
Very sad to hear of this - first place I saw the news was on Brian's Facebook this morning.  From everything I have read by/about the man he was a true friend and supporter of Brian in every sense of the word, and he played a big part in keeping the Smile legend going all those subsequent years and decades.  My condolences to his family and friends.
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Could The Beach Boys and nothing but The Beach Boys play live? on: August 21, 2014, 07:01:27 PM
I think with a lot of rehearsal and choosing the right material, they probably could (in theory anyway) - would have been cool to see them do a little mini-set like that during the anniversary tour.
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Re-recorded SMiLE tracks... on: May 27, 2014, 08:01:03 PM
I've always wondered how Carl knew the Cabinessence's melody and lyrics, as it doesn't seem to ever be even rehearsed before. We all imagine the SMiLE unrecorded lead melodies only existing in Brian's head at the time. If he sang it to Carl it wouldn't be so easy to remember 2 years later

Maybe Carl just asked Brian before he sang it? Roll Eyes

Given what we know about Brian's reluctance to have anything to do with the Smile music that the Boys worked on after the fact (I believe Desper said he often left the house when production started), I'm not sure I buy that - perhaps Brian had written out a lead sheet in 1966 (which I think was necessary to register to copyright) and Carl worked off of that?
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Summer's Gone vocal on: April 30, 2014, 07:01:11 PM
There is precedent for it though - the chorus of "I Just Wasn't Made for These Times" ("where I'm at" and "very sad"). 
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Audree on: April 29, 2014, 09:17:25 PM
Yes thank you, that was a great read.  Seems like she was a cool lady back in her day.
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Michael Vosse, may he rest in peace. on: January 21, 2014, 06:41:15 PM
Very sad to hear of Michael's passing...RIP.
19  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Anyone think Brian Wilson was continuing Smile work after May 1967? on: January 09, 2014, 08:42:23 PM
apparently Brian included titles like Diamond Head and Time To Get Alone when the initial SMiLE setlist was being drawn up in '03

Nope... but the person who drew up the list did.  Wink

and didn't BW strike them off?

hmm... interesting.
either way, the fact that Brian recorded an altered version of Surf's Up during the Wild Honey sessions proves that he was still working on the material well after May

Brian recording "Surf's Up" during the Wild Honey sessions doesn't prove anything, other than that he wanted to record the song.  Not everything he recorded necessarily had a purpose beyond just messing around or seeing how something would sound for his own personal satisfaction.
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Questionable choices of lead vocalists for BB songs on: January 09, 2014, 08:39:03 PM
I much prefer Brian's vocal on the WIBN bridge over Mike's, always have - I heard it for years with Mike, but once I heard Brian do it, it just sounded "right" to my ears.  Brian's voice brings a sensitivity that Mike's just doesn't have.
21  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Smiley Smile sessions on: December 21, 2013, 12:42:17 PM
Something related.. They finally got the stereo "H&V" right on the stereo remaster. The baldwin organ is there and it doesn't sound like bunches of reverb were added to it for no reason. Only thing is, it seems no one can get the original edits right. Mike is cut off on the original 45 version "by the heroes a..." he barely says "and" before being cut off on the original, but the remixes always edit him in properly. I know it's a proper edit and sounds technically better, but I love the charm of the original where Mike is cut off abruptly. Doesn't matter at all, I love the remix but something that I've noticed.

Also "With Me Tonight" sounds awful. That's the only stereo remix that sounds bad. Gettin Hungry isn't edited quite right like the original either. Anyone know why "With Me Tonight" sounds so bad on that 2012 remaster? Brian sounds like he has marbles in his mouth on the stereo remix. Could it be some vocal effect they added? It's terrible and I'm not sure what happened there. It doesn't even sound like the same takes were used..

I've thought the same thing about "With Me Tonight" in stereo - doesn't sound like the same takes to me either. 
22  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Songwriter Insights blog - \ on: October 09, 2013, 06:59:35 PM
Wow, you've captured everything that I've always felt about how brilliant this song is so perfectly in your posts - I'm especially glad you mentioned how hard Brian attacked the lead vocal, and how great a choice that was for this particular song.  We know Brian could have sung it softer and emphasized the sweet side of the lyric, but the way he belts it allows us to feel the frustration the narrator feels because he can't yet do all the things with his girlfriend that he wants to do.  The way he sings the verses makes me appreciate the Brian-bridge lead even more, as he suddenly shifts into his soft "Please Let Me Wonder" style voice to accompany the complete shift in feel (and key).  The intro and bridge are the softer, more "dream-like" sections, creating a great contrast with the emphatic verse sections, and Brian's voice was so versatile that he could convey both feelings perfectly.
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The (eventually) MIC spoilers thread on: August 29, 2013, 08:17:16 PM
I think I like the alternate take of Don't Worry Baby better than the released version, I like Brian's vocal nice and raw like that rather than with all the reverb and double tracking.  Wow, his voice was beautiful back then.

I don't know if I like it better, but it's more powerful and raw as you said - he makes a very difficult vocal sound so incredibly easy.
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 'Where is she?' just played on BBC radio 2! on: August 20, 2013, 09:27:52 PM
Love it!  Very interesting to hear Brian's future voice creep in during certain phrases too.  Amazing that there are still songs like this in the vault that have gone unreleased for so long.
25  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: MiC Song/Tracklisting Discussion Thread on: August 14, 2013, 08:32:43 PM

Wow I'd never heard that - I knew Dennis sang it live during that era but wow, that's a cool funky arrangement, and Dennis' voice fits the song a lot better than I thought it would.
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