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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Sail On Sailor box set on: December 01, 2022, 09:10:27 AM
I'm not sure if this is news to anyone here or not, but Spark In The Dark turns out to have nothing to do with Funky Pretty -- it's completely instrumental and has part of the melody of Chain Reaction Of Love.
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Sail On Sailor box set on: December 01, 2022, 08:12:27 AM
Yep, it's on Spotify in Australia.
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Sail On Sailor box set on: November 10, 2022, 08:05:35 AM
An a capella mix of All This Is That just hit Spotify here in Australia (I expect you'll have to wait until after midnight wherever you happen to be).
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Any perspective on the release of the CATP/Holland boxed set? on: September 27, 2022, 11:21:15 PM
It's also worth noting, especially for newer fans, that for most of the 90s, you couldn't even get these albums AT ALL, as far as buying a new copy. The Caribou CDs went out of print very quickly, and it wasn't until 2000 that one could even buy CD versions again.

Nothing in my life will ever top the thrill of finding copies of Sunflower and CATP circa 1989-90. Kids these days have no idea.
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Petition to Get Still Cruisin and Summer In Paradise Reissued! on: August 06, 2022, 04:06:45 AM
I suspect there's a reason "Summer in Paradise" has been more or less quietly "retired", not even making it into album artwork collages on the 50th anniversary tour.
I can think of twelve.
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: SMiLE was ready in 1967 - discuss on: July 20, 2022, 04:19:31 AM
Honestly it kinda broke my heart when that small snippet of the original melody for DYLW was unsurfaced when the Smile Sessions came out. It is so different from the BWPS version (and so much better)...it really is a tragedy that the lead vocal was never recorded. I'm so glad that the melody was brought to light, but it also shows us a glimpse of what could have been.

Pardon my ignorance, but what does this refer to? Where specifically can I find it on The Smile Sessions?
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Sounds of Summer 6LP Announced on: June 16, 2022, 01:02:01 PM
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Great to hear about 'Baby Blue' - can't wait to hear that too!

It's probably not a coincidence that my favourite of the new 1970s mixes is a song with no drums.

ETA: Listening to the original version on LA now after a couple of plays of the new mix, and I hardly describe how inferior it is.
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Sounds of Summer 6LP Announced on: June 16, 2022, 09:56:18 AM
If you were offended by the Marcella mix, you'll no doubt feel the same way about Let Us Go On This Way -- it's got a big reverb-y drum sound that's clearly meant to play to the contemporary listener in a way that the entire Love You album distinctly does not.

But Baby Blue -- oh my. Gorgeous. Fully lives up to Howie Edelstein's hype. I'll never want to hear the original mix again.

I like the new mix of Mess of Help -- drums maybe a bit too conspicuous, but dispels the muddiness of the original without committing sacrilege.
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Sounds of Summer 6LP Announced on: June 16, 2022, 09:43:47 AM
You're right - it's all there. No doubt it will become available wherever you are when the clock strikes midnight, as it has just done here in Australia.
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Sounds of Summer 6LP Announced on: June 16, 2022, 09:20:24 AM
New stereo mix of Surfin' USA now on Spotify.
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Sounds of Summer 6LP Announced on: June 09, 2022, 09:27:26 AM
A "2021 Mix" of Marcella is up on Spotify (at least in my time zone). It's ... different. Very different.
12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Celebrate The News on Feel Flows box set on: September 17, 2021, 01:36:50 PM
The remix of Celebrate the News is one thing I don't like about FF. Why bother trying to improve on perfection? The vocals sit oddly in the mix, whether because of being mixed too loud or the reverb they seem to have added to them (correct me if I'm wrong here). It's great to hear the vocals in isolation at the end, of course, but that just confirms me in my view that they should have made this a vocals-and-instrumentals deconstruction track rather than a straight-up remix.

Also, at the risk of losing friends here: is it wrong of me to wonder how Dennis produced tracks of the precision and complexity of Celebrate the News and San Miguel in 1969 that he never matched later? Do his production credits on these songs belie a fair bit of involvement from Brian? By the same token, surely Sunflower is rich in Brian Wilson vocal arrangements, even where they aren't his songs or production credits. This seems to be to be an under-appreciated (see what I did there?) fact about the album.

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Definitely a Spector-esque vibe, but also it's got somewhat of a sinister and extremely rocking vibe.

Perfectly described.
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: September 09, 2021, 01:30:01 PM
Mark Lewisohn on the tale about Brian Epstein hyping Love Me Do into the British charts:

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North-west sales this first Friday and Saturday – with the epicentre in Liverpool – sent Love Me Do straight into the Top Fifty, the one compiled for the following Thursday’s Record Retailer: it snuck in at 49 ... So freakish was all of this, rumours quickly took grip that Brian was hyping the chart, buying in boxes of Love Me Do to fake its position ... No one considered Brian’s membership of a committee that challenged suspicions of chart malpractice, or his resistance to faking My Bonnie into even his own shop’s published Top Twenty, or – most striking of all – the fact that, in 1962, it made no difference how many copies a shop sold of any record because the charts weren’t computed that way. Nems had been a ‘chart return’ operation for years – it still provided data to Melody Maker and also now to Record Retailer – but those papers’ weekly phone calls or printed questionnaires didn’t ask for sales figures, only for a shop’s bestselling records ranked from 1 to 30; the papers awarded thirty points to the number 1 record down to one point for the number 30, and calculated an overall national total. All the charts were produced this way, as they still were in America. Brian Epstein had no need to buy ten thousand Love Me Dos to fake it into the charts; he didn’t even need to buy one. He did buy a couple of thousand copies, because the majority of Beatles fans wanted to buy it from Nems’ three stores, and because he was the manager and agent of this band and EMI had sent him one free copy.
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: September 08, 2021, 07:33:44 AM
A mere #83 on the Billboard Top 200. Still, 68 places higher than Sunflower ...

https://www.billboard.com/charts/billboard-200
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: September 07, 2021, 10:57:49 AM
This isn't the actual Billboard Top 200 albums chart, but something based (I assume) on sales rather than airplay and streams -- no doubt making it more favourable to a release like FF. Still cool though.
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: September 06, 2021, 09:20:20 AM
Or it could be a clumsily expressed reference to the line "uninspired, drenched and tired".
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: September 04, 2021, 12:07:43 PM
Wow - #19 on the UK charts. Still waiting on Billboard.

https://www.officialcharts.com/charts/albums-chart/
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: August 31, 2021, 12:30:55 PM
86 on Metacritic from seven reviews - five 80s and two 90s.

https://www.metacritic.com/music/feel-flows-the-sunflower-surfs-up-sessions-1969-1971/the-beach-boys

Included is a four-star review from Rolling Stone, which I'm afraid isn't nearly as sharp as the great review they ran for Wake The World/I Can Hear Music.

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-album-reviews/feel-flows-the-sunflower-surfs-up-sessions-1969-1971-goes-deep-on-two-beach-boys-classics-1218719/
19  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: August 27, 2021, 11:32:27 AM
Who is that on 'baby baby'?

Why would they ruin such a good song with awful signing
Daryl Dragon, perchance? He has a co-writer credit, if the Wikipedia details are to be believed, and the song sounds very much to me like it was made up on the spot.

Speaking of writing credits, Awake is credited to Brian and David Sandler. Whatever became of Floyd Tucker?
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: August 26, 2021, 10:56:15 PM
I think my favourite thing here is Old Movie. It was always obvious that setting an orchestra loose on Make It Good was a mistake, but I now feel it was no less so on Cuddle Up.
21  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: August 26, 2021, 07:02:23 AM
It's now live on Spotify here in Australia.
22  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: August 25, 2021, 08:23:45 PM
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The Beach Boys Feel Flows Chapter 2: White Hot Glistening

So we're back to "white hot" now?
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: August 20, 2021, 10:50:22 AM
Imo San Miguel is one of the unreleased greats. Superb energy, rocking guitar solo, great arrangment and sublime harmonies. How the hell didn't this make the cut on Sunflower or Surf's Up Huh

Jack Rieley's perspective on the track selection for Surf's Up, including the exclusion of San Miguel, is related in the posts from "Beach Head" on this page:

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php?topic=9651.0

Rieley at first appears to take "credit" for the decision on the grounds that it was "just a hook, not a song" -- whatever the hell that means -- before claiming the decision was "made by Dennis Wilson, with Brian Wilson and Carl Wilson and I supporting him". I personally find it a bit hard to believe that Dennis would have preferred having nothing at all on Surf's Up to San Miguel, but who knows.
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: FEEL FLOWS - Chapter One. . . on: August 19, 2021, 08:19:19 AM
I would like to a) concur with the above comments about the video, and b) draw everyone's attention to the fact that two killer new tracks from the boxed set have just dropped on Spotify, which I've just commented on in the main thread:

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,26791.msg674266.html#msg674266
25  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: August 19, 2021, 08:16:42 AM
As usual, Friday brings a few new tasters from the boxed set, which you can access now on Spotify if you're in New Zealand/east coast of Australia, or linked there through a VPN. Otherwise they will be there when the clock strikes midnight in your time zone. (ETA: Actually, it may just be available everywhere - I'm able to get it without the VPN in my pre-midnight time zone right now).

One of these is the most exciting so far IMO, namely the remix of San Miguel we heard a glimpse of in that video with Mark Linnell (I think it was) a year or so ago. It's awesome -- miles more powerful than the previously released mix. Among other things, there is a bit of harmony vocal that wasn't on the previous version in the bit between the last chorus and the fadeout section.

The other is Feel Flows - Track & Backing Vocals, which is also great. It gives us a chance to hear the backing vocals unobscured by either the lead vocal or the Leslie effect (or whatever it was) that was applied on the released version. For the first time, you can really hear what's being sung on the chorus ("white puff glistening shadowy glow"), especially when it continues playing after the instrumental track fades out. Also, the instrumental section has just the saxophone with no flute.
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