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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Did The Beach Boys Play To Segregated Audiences on: September 15, 2020, 05:14:08 AM
9.18.64 Montgomery, Alabama. Surely segregated?

https://www.beachboysgigs.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/64-918-BBsMontgomeryAd-copy-600x923.jpg

Has this ever been discussed and regret expressed?
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Please sign petition for Beach Boys to withdraw from performing on 2/5/20 on: February 10, 2020, 05:19:08 AM
Hopefully Trump Junior's incredible callousness will lose his dad more votes among Brian fans in November than this gains him. I assume that any Brian fans who are pro-trophy-hunting are already Trump voters, so it's really independents whose votes might swing here.

The damage to the Beach Boys brand is potentially huge, but the brand itself does not really reflect the ability to remember its members names, given that the NYT got Bruce's name wrong. Those who truly know and love the music will stay on board.
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Please sign petition for Beach Boys to withdraw from performing on 2/5/20 on: February 04, 2020, 09:45:23 AM
While I appreciate otherwise arguably overly-sympathetic Mike defenders standing up and calling Mike and Bruce out on this gig, I somehow doubt many of them are going to boycott anything going forward, and I say this in a completely neutral fashion. I'm not judging whether they should or not, I just think most of those most sympathetic to Mike who are opposed to this gig will still be attending Mike gigs, and probably not lingering on this event once it has passed.

It would be harsh to expect AGD to do this given that his entire public profile is invested in the work. I would, however, hope that he might no longer give any space to any future concerts by Mike and Bruce's group. That ought to be a fairly obvious thing to boycott.
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Best of 1968: White Album or Friends on: February 04, 2020, 09:38:01 AM
This is even more Apples v Oranges that most Beatles v BB comparisons. Friends is a very personal album by a genius struggling against an impending breakdown whereas the White Album is a three very ego-driven guys making groundbreaking, extroverted  solo tracks using the others as backing musicians. Friends is rarely a rock album in the way that Sunflower is whereas the WA is the rockiest The Beatles ever became. Friends is perhaps more timeless whereas the WA is a better embodiment of 1968's musical trends and possibilities. The WA is better produced and of course we have a remix; I think Friends is still stuck with a 2001 remaster unless anyone knows differently.

The WA includes all the best tracks The Beatles had available to them given that they didn't include singles and John wasn't happy with the recording of Across The Universe. The Beach Boys had better material lying around but it was unfinished and Brian wasn't well enough to do the work to get it up to scratch, and nobody was helping him AFAIK. Dennis was coming good and his stuff alone blows away many WA tracks, but he's still the George Harrison of the group at this point.
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike makes a statement on: February 04, 2020, 09:26:53 AM
Except when that freedom is expressed on his Facebook page.
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Please sign petition for Beach Boys to withdraw from performing on 2/5/20 on: February 04, 2020, 09:25:51 AM
To be fair to AGD, he's clearly sincere on this issue and has been very forthright on his own site. I doubt he would go back into the Mike/Bruce fold after the stance he's taken here.

OTOH I'm amazed that anyone who's being paying attention for the last 40+ years would be surprised at Mike and Bruce being hypocrites.
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Jeff Foskett on: November 02, 2019, 06:27:02 AM
Solo album to be released on November 22:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y345qd9p

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y426mnws
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson 2020 Live Thread on: November 01, 2019, 02:34:21 AM
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February 3-10, 2020 - Cayamo 2020 Cruise

WTF?
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love, \ on: March 26, 2019, 04:30:42 AM
Olivia's birth year is given incorrectly in most online sources like Wiki. It should be 5.18.47 not 5.18.48.
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Mike Love, "Back In The USSR" and "Pisces Brothers" on: March 01, 2019, 04:31:46 AM
1) Has anyone except Mike ever confirmed that he contributed lyrical ideas to Back In The USSR?

2) "Pisces Brothers" - supposedly about a painting of Guru Dev that George gave to Mike, according to Mike's autobiography.  Love also claims that John, Paul, George and Donovan sang an arrangement of Happy Birthday for him, "patterned after Fun Fun Fun"

I think the melody owes a lot to "Country Roads" by John Denver, but it drags like a bout of crabs.
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread on: March 01, 2019, 04:16:22 AM
Foskett was present on 2/2/2019 so I think he misses some gigs but not others.

For Bruce being all over the place, check out this clip. He has cue cards for some reason:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnzYw7p3qCI
12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread on: February 27, 2019, 02:14:32 PM
I saw them in Fort Myers last night for the second time (previous visit was the December 2016 Xmas show) and would say:

Positives - I thought Brian Eichenberger was excellent on Don't Worry Baby. I loved the arrangement of In My Room and I think Bruce still does Disney Girls pretty well. The rhythm section is great and John Cowsill really pounds out those beats. Randy Leago plays a mean sax. Nine musicians on stage means you always get plenty of volume, but Totten also brings some subtlety to the arrangements (In My Room being the supreme example).

Neutral - Mike and Bruce deserve to be cut some slack at their age. Their voices are surviving better than Brian's, which was totally shot in Xmas show I saw. Exposing themselves to Their Hearts Were Full Of Spring a capella takes some balls, although Eichenberger carries that song to a large degree.

Negatives - Mike's solo stuff, which nobody wanted to hear, and the very ordinary lead of his son Christian on God Only Knows. Jeff's absence (which Mike didn't even acknowledge) affected some tunes such as 'Surfer Girl'. The setlist was predictably no-risk so we didn't even get Heroes and Villains. Mike is still milking 'Pisces Brother' and Pet Sounds 50th like he was in Dec 16, and I felt there was a subtext to his highlighting that Carl W and George Harrison both died from lung cancer (why mention it?).

Mike's movement - yes, he's down to a shuffle and I can foresee him needing more breaks like the one he takes during Disney Girls. Bruce is not doing much on the keyboards AFAIK (more of a prop these days?).

I thought it was worth the night out but I doubt I will need to see the band again, whereas Brian's band remains essential even if he's mostly just sitting there, provided he still wants to be sitting there.
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Discuss & Rate Brian Wilson Songs Day by Day on: December 20, 2018, 07:19:16 AM
2 - Blondie's vocal in the live show is much more passionate
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2018 Tour Thread on: December 20, 2018, 07:16:10 AM
Brian doesn't get enough credit for not just doing hits sets even though such sets would be greater crowd pleasers.
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2018 Tour Thread on: December 13, 2018, 05:02:58 PM
I was at Hollywood, FL and agree with the above. I enjoyed the Xmas arrangements very much because they show off aspects of Brian's history that are not covered in regular BW or BB shows. I thought 'We Three Kings' and 'Winter Symphony' were especially awesome and Darian coming back (he wasn't there when I last saw the group) made this a lot more enjoyable than the Pet Sounds show I saw in Atlanta in 2016.

Brian's voice - I was dreading all his vocals to be honest because the voice has completely gone, far more than ten years ago (when it was already difficult to like). I thought he did OK on songs in a lower register but he shouldn't go near Wouldn't It Be Nice, which he just cannot handle at all. He gets through God Only Knows by breaking each line into two and just about gets away with it, although I thought it was out of time with the band, whose arrangement is faster than he takes the lines.

Rob B. was a bit too animated for my taste, too showbizzy, but technically very good, I agree. I missed Matt on the Pet Sounds songs. Al was great on the Xmas tracks, as noted, and I hadn't known that his first ever BB lead was on the Xmas album.

It amazes me how Paul von Mertens and Probyn Gregory are able to create a whole brass section.

Some of the people in the audience were total idiots and I would not allow them to color my perception of the concert.

My one criticism is that I don't think they should have put White Christmas and Auld Lang Syne at the end, after the BB hits. A better structure might have been 1964 album then some Beach Boys then the solo/1977 tracks then finish with Rhonda etc. Also show some adventure by including a BB track not played in any previous tour, such as a track from Friends or 2020 (given that those albums have just been reissued digitally).

Kokomo can fcuk off
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 1968 Copyright Extension prediction thread on: December 08, 2018, 11:31:21 AM
Murry still giving him in sh*t in 1968? Poor guy.
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2018 Tour Thread on: December 08, 2018, 07:54:02 AM
I will be at the Sunrise, FL concert on Wednesday and am avoiding spoilers until then. If anyone wants to meet for a chat, drop me a PM.
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 1968 Copyright Extension prediction thread on: December 08, 2018, 07:51:08 AM
Queries:

1. Why hadn't the 1966 Track Mix for CIFOTM been released previously? Is it a new discovery?

2. Is it Stephen Desper on the talkback (e.g. Meant For You)?
19  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Favorite Covers of Beach Boys Songs on: November 05, 2018, 05:04:42 AM
Libera - Love and Mercy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSSD36XmPcY&list=PLAYzwzHT34KeJ5VS_ZGmN9TmY7vxxvQ2G&index=5

20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Did Randy Newman's Debut Album Influence Brian or Dennis? on: August 24, 2018, 07:47:15 AM
The album's arrangements* and plaintive vocals seem to have similarities to some of Brian's more laidback pieces after 1968. The vocals could be late Dennis or smoke-voice Brian.

*There is also a Smile feel to the harmonica, accordion, organ and strings, but Brian obviously got there first with that, so the influence is two ways, maybe? And I can also see a thread to Orange Crate Art by VDP.
21  Smiley Smile Stuff / Polls / Re: The Definite Smiley Smile Message Board's Song Ranking - Ranking Process on: July 26, 2018, 09:13:35 AM
1. Please Let Me Wonder
2. The Lonely Sea
3. She Knows Me Too Well
4. You Still Believe In Me
5. Hushabye
6. God Only Knows
7. In My Room
8. Kiss Me Baby
9. Feel Flows
10.  Our Sweet Love
22  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Royal Philharmonic Orchestra Album Discussion Thread on: June 12, 2018, 10:13:09 AM
YSBIM is a disaster. It's been turned into a bright and optimistic song, missing the underlying vulnerability completely. The strings on the whole album are closer to Mantovani than anything truly classical. Brian put better strings on Don't Talk Put Your Head On My Shoulder.

Saying that, something different happens with Heroes & Villains. A person who understood Brian and VDP's intentions seems to have had some input.

In My Room also just about works. Vocals are beautifully mixed and the strings are reasonably restrained, except the Middle 8 which gets too loud.

The piano on Darlin', which I love, seems to have been removed; part of an overall "smoothing" process which misunderstands the reasons the originals are so great.


23  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Royal Philharmonic Orchestra Album Discussion Thread on: May 11, 2018, 02:59:16 AM
Seventeen ballads might have worked but not this Greatest Hits pillage. Kokomo, ffs.

The selections do not indicate that much thought went into picking them.
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / 21st Century Beach Boys Albums / Re: Sunshine Tomorrow 2CD Set, 2017 on: August 01, 2017, 01:35:56 AM
A priceless addition to Brian's legacy which shows him to have been still on top form in the second half of 1967. As with the 1997 Pet Sounds box, it is like taking the cellophane off that was concealing the vivid sound of the parts. The tracking sessions also reveal new aspects to key songs, notably Country Air.

Brian is still in his peak voice, as shown by the oldies on CD2 such as Surfer Girl and a Nov 67 Surf's Up. An unexpected treat is With  A Little Help From My Friends, which vocally beat the Beatles version.
25  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Beach Boys Wild Honey(Sunshine Tomorrow) 2CD Set? on: August 01, 2017, 01:23:08 AM
Was Brian planning to include Surf's Up on Wild Honey when he recorded the Nov 67 vocal?
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