Wow I just have to post. Gettin' In Over My Head in this pristine quality is a revelation. Wow.

Nice job iron horse, and well done.

We have different aesthetics and views on writing, and that's a great thing and makes the world go 'round! My writing is not meant to be read but yours obviously is, and that's ok by me. I have three traditionally written novels and the long hours and time it took to write them were great experiences. Now, I'm finding more happiness in conceptual art and that's where I'd rather be and where my sensibility lies.

The discussion here is very interesting and refreshing, and thanks to rock n roll too!

Pretentious twoddle.

How so?

No Leo, you're not an artist. Anyone could do this. And they already have.

"Anyone could do this" is probably the least valid critique of any work of art. And the fact that others have tried language experiments doesn't prevent others from trying it too. Do you likewise write off sonnets because Petrarch did it first? Wordsworth and Shakespeare should be considered less worthy of attention? Are you going to actually stand by these statements with a straight face?

Yes.

I spend months and months working on original material, he steals other peoples words and sells it.

I do not agree with the premise that all art is equally valid, and that everyone's creative expression is somehow worthy

That is just the current fashionable thinking.

Sonnets require mastery of your craft, so perhaps that wasn't such a good analogy.

The first guy who took a sh*t in an art gallery and called it art was making a valid point, the second guy..... not so much

My opinion is this. If anyone can do it, then it's not art.

Art requires talent and mastery.

My face is straight, believe me

Your words are poetry!

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I do it, then it's not agree with the premise that everyone's creative expression is somehow worthy That is equally valid, and months working on original material, he steals other peoples words and that wasn't such a good analogy. The first guy who took a good analogy. The first guy who took a sh*t in an art gallery and called it art was making a sh*t in an art is somehow worthy That is somehow worthy That is this. If anyone can do it, then it's not so much My opinion is this.

Pretentious twoddle.

How so?

No Leo, you're not an artist. Anyone could do this. And they already have.

"Anyone could do this" is probably the least valid critique of any work of art. And the fact that others have tried language experiments doesn't prevent others from trying it too. Do you likewise write off sonnets because Petrarch did it first? Wordsworth and Shakespeare should be considered less worthy of attention? Are you going to actually stand by these statements with a straight face?

Yes.

I spend months and months working on original material, he steals other peoples words and sells it.

I do not agree with the premise that all art is equally valid, and that everyone's creative expression is somehow worthy

That is just the current fashionable thinking.

Sonnets require mastery of your craft, so perhaps that wasn't such a good analogy.

The first guy who took a sh*t in an art gallery and called it art was making a valid point, the second guy..... not so much

My opinion is this. If anyone can do it, then it's not art.

Art requires talent and mastery.

My face is straight, believe me

Anyone can do it, but nobody does!

It's hard to write, it's easy to copy! And I love this.

Modernism and postmodernism are over, and the literary arts have entered a new technology-driven paradigm. Originality is out the window. Writers don’t need to write anything more, they just need to manage the language that already exists.

Some people have too much pride

I also love the quotes you appropriated for your signature!

"Someone needs to tell Adrian Baker that imitation isn't innovation." -The Real Beach Boy
"I had to Chase the Sun" -Midnight's Another Day

http://youtu.be/EwtBKftbgjc  -I'm still in awe of how spiritual and spine tingling this performance is, especially right at 4:52

”If it doesn’t subside, I’m gonna call the cops.”-Brian Wilson on smog

"Your sister's gone out, she's on a date, and you just sit at home and masterbate." -William Joel

"Turn on your radio, baby, Listen to my song turn on your night light baby, baby I'm gone" -Harry Nilsson

"Holy Booze, Slow Man"

Those are quotes that punkinhead has referenced properly with the authors for a personal profile. All your doing is stealing other people's message board quotes without permission and just trying to make a quick buck off the Hoffman board discusions in the name of "art".

All the posts taken word for word from the Hoffman board are remixed and cut up, thus creating a new communication, yet my work is not readible in terms of information. It is thinkable rather than readable. My harvested words are junk and handled as such.

Some people have too much pride

I also love the quotes you appropriated for your signature!

"Someone needs to tell Adrian Baker that imitation isn't innovation." -The Real Beach Boy

"I had to Chase the Sun" -Midnight's Another Day

http://youtu.be/EwtBKftbgjc  -I'm still in awe of how spiritual and spine tingling this performance is, especially right at 4:52

”If it doesn’t subside, I’m gonna call the cops.”-Brian Wilson on smog

"Your sister's gone out, she's on a date, and you just sit at home and masterbate." -William Joel

"Turn on your radio, baby, Listen to my song turn on your night light baby, baby I'm gone" -Harry Nilsson

"Holy Booze, Slow Man"

Yup, nothing new at all, and appropriation is seen more in the visual arts and music then literature.

Nothing proud about it, it's just uncreating and having a lot of fun being uncreative.

It's an interesting idea though the execution isn't wonderful. This sort of thing has been around for decades and it is part of an important movement that understands the significance of understanding that language does things other than make meaning - it has all sorts of other values that we typically ignore in our desire to make sense of the world.

Plus this sort of thing has been done relentlessly. I get the Derridian instability of language. I get the significance of language experiments to free us from formal constraints. I get the ability that technology has in undermining or complicating the authority of the author figure. So what new is the book telling me?

As the old saying goes, just because you can doesn't mean you should.

Beautiful! See?

I totally do. It's too bad we have all those pesky copyright laws that prevent you from appropriating music and pawning it off as your own. Oh well. At least there's one medium where you can legally steal from people and make a profit off those who don't know any better.

I do love it how you refer to this as your "work." Do you consider yourself an artist?

With appropriated literature, it all depends how one uses the appropriated material or "work" ;0

As for artist? Yes I do, in my "spare mind". 

James Joyce's review of SMiLE:

"Between the Spring & Summer of 1966 till Late spring of 1967 The Beach Boys too if we had kept going. So I ended it. Sometime in the dawn. The music all is lost for now, to a muted trumpeter swan. Columnated ruins domino!." A bit different to Surfing USA don't you think?. The whole Finished. Mono mixed album takes you on a journey which ends in nothing but Good Vibrations until he felt he had the right sound and mix was ready for the songs, Track 22 Heroes And Villains Sections for e.g is 7mins of some of you but also may make you Smile too just go with it and it give a more truer mix to their own vision). For anyone who just thinks of The Smile Sessions. CD1. Tracks 1-19. Is the Smile Album presented in full and in mono too. (Mono records was standard in the spring of 1967 The Beach Boys as just being about Sun & Surf With a touch of Fun, Fun, Fun. This whole album may come as a shock (In a good way!!) Put simply there is a hell of a lot of praise in the 60's there is a beautiful nature sound untouched by soulless computers (If you needed a sound you had to find a way as to seem as if it was done during the 60's as most people didn't have stereo systems during this time plus some producers preferred mono as it give a more truer mix to their own vision). For anyone who just thinks of The Beach Boys or rather Brian Wilson & Van Dykes Parks are breathtaking e.g Surf's up has the lines "Hung velvet overtaken me. Dim chandelier awaken me to a muted trumpeter swan. Columnated ruins domino!." A bit different to Surfing USA don't you think?. The whole Finished. Mono mixed album takes you on a journey which ends in nothing but Good Vibrations it is made out of 5 different versions of the LA music scene again and again. But it never out stays it welcome and the groups vocals at the end lifts this song 5yrs to be released (1971) but this mono mix is even better Brian is able to hit all the right notes (you wouldn't ever get this on X-Factor!!!). The Second CD is given over to more sessions of songs presented on the wall. So to sum up this short review Please just go with it and it will you too. So do your soul a treat and buy this and listen for yourself how amazing this is and how the music press of the time (Spring 1966) as being groundbreaking and Brian Wilson (Their leader, Producer, Songwriter, Arranger, Singer) Attemped to record an album of songs presented on the street, It was during the Pet Sounds got a lot of praise in the 60's as most people didn't have stereo systems during this time plus some producers preferred mono as it may of been done with such ease too. Perfect tone of both voice & piano and Brian Wilson found himself as being groundbreaking and Brian is able to hit all the pieces can fit into any place and could be fitted in another place. Their last album Pet Sounds Sessions that a track called Good Vibrations until he felt he had the right sound and mix was ready for the songs, Track 22 Heroes And Villains Sections for e.g is 7mins of some of the 2cd box set of The Smile Sessions. CD1. Tracks 1-19. Is the Smile Album presented in full stereo remixed to bring out the best. Track 26 Surf's Up 1967 (Solo Version) is at once both sad, joyful, & beautiful. This version sees Brian some months after Smile was left unfinished and unreleased due partly to the track(If you listen to Good Vibrations it is made out of 5 different versions of the used and unused sections of this one song you can hear officially what was recorded, session tracks & Vocal tracks too as well as a shock (In a good way!!) Put simply there is a hell of a lot going on on each single track, You can hear car horns, sliding strings, an music box piano playing an seemingly old western medley lots of background vocals by the boys too but edited in such a way as to seem as if it was done during the 60's as most people didn't have stereo systems during this time plus some producers preferred mono as it may of been had it been released in 1967......If only if only. But I for one I'm thankful to see it being released today it truly has made me Smile as I'm sure it will grow on you trust me. The Lyrics By Brian Wilson & Van Dykes Parks are breathtaking e.g Surf's up has the lines "Hung velvet overtaken me. Dim chandelier awaken me to a muted trumpeter swan. Columnated ruins domino!." A bit different to Surfing USA don't you think?. The whole Finished. Mono mixed album takes you on a journey which ends in nothing but Good Vibrations it is made out of 5 different versions of the used and unused sections of this one song you can hear sounds that you didn't think was possible before the age of computers, Hi tech Keyboards, Modern Studio equipments and ways. And because it was all recorded all at once both sad, joyful, & beautiful. This version sees Brian some months after Smile was left unfinished and unreleased due partly to the fact that in Brian's words "Smile was killing me, It might've killed The Beach Boys as just being about Sun & Surf With a touch of Fun, Fun, Fun. This whole album may come as a finished album in mono just as it may of been done with such ease too. Perfect tone of both voice & piano and Brian is singing lead throughout the whole song rather than from "

It's an interesting idea though the execution isn't wonderful. This sort of thing has been around for decades and it is part of an important movement that understands the significance of understanding that language does things other than make meaning - it has all sorts of other values that we typically ignore in our desire to make sense of the world.

Plus this sort of thing has been done relentlessly. I get the Derridian instability of language. I get the significance of language experiments to free us from formal constraints. I get the ability that technology has in undermining or complicating the authority of the author figure. So what new is the book telling me?

As the old saying goes, just because you can doesn't mean you should.

Beautiful! See?

“It's an important movement that technology has been around for decades and it in undermining or complicating the premise to free us from formal constraints. I get the significance of the significance of an important movement that explains how interesting I find the Derridian instability of understanding that language does things other values that understands the Derridian instability of way as books.”

 “Very odd idea though the Derridian instability of language. I get the premise to free us from formal constraints. I find the premise to make money off people buy that?”

 “yeah, it's just sheer language. Which can be good. But the ability that we typically ignore in our desire to his novels.”

“Interesting. When's this dude bringing out 'Sleep A Lot' because that language experiments to make meaning - just some guy taking a bunch of the execution isn't wonderful. This sort of way as books.”

As the old saying goes, just because you can doesn't mean you should.

Indeed!





Dragged into the Land of the Dead thin cobalt sky, a psychic contrail suspended in the high, thin stratosphere, an icy cirrus cloud of chaos, in lurid intervals of narcissistic horror, an enormous radiant fog of visual rumors and nonsense of the everyday, the incredible sight of a white clock dial bleeding through the thin cobalt sky, an obscene territory of winged demons, aerial creatures bearing branded vials of amputated ghost parts, porcelain cobalt heaven, viewing the golden coronas of uneven and prepared genetic amplifiers, walking uselessly through the the golden coronas of uneven and prepared genetic amplifiers, walking uselessly through the neurotic oily winds, listening of the beauty of chaos, in lurid intervals of narcissistic horror, an enormous radiant branded vials of amputated ghost parts, decaying metallic reek of bankrupt snake skins, to the inner world, the world of fire, the world behind the masonry walls winds, listening to the rasping wings of hysterical tidal birds, feeling the sluggish tropic flames the pulpit and moths consuming the flag and an important discovery of why so many golden coronas of uneven and prepared genetic amplifiers, walking uselessly through the neurotic oily winds, listening and dreams, a place lost in space and time, a place of mute beaches where footsteps back of the hand hatch into hungry wolf spiders, which proceed to strip the flesh from bones, image of the horned creature automobile with a factory-installed means of listening to the Deity, a way out of his prison and off the forsaken island he calls Marienbad in the man who is gone but not forgotten, a murder by pittance rage, an image heap of a tragic, dead age when the walls start bleeding, Nazi paratroopers land outside the inner sea with a riptide, a warning against swimming without a prophet on duty of the beauty of chaos, in lurid intervals of narcissistic horror, an enormous radiant fog of visual waste, giant mounds of smoldering linen mummy casings, a broken stone indicator of the final extinguished penetration of the beauty of chaos, in lurid intervals of narcissistic horror, an enormous winged demons, aerial creatures bearing branded vials of amputated ghost parts, decaying metallic pickled sea monsters caught just a few yards from here in the roiling surf, upon sand so profound, so deep, that one perceives no step while looking up at the eastern alien spaceship or perhaps a sign from the Deity, His divine pocket watch, of the Dead beyond Patmosian exile, giving credit to the inner world, the world of fire, step while looking up at the eastern heavens at the incredible sight of being dragged into the Land of the Dead beyond Patmosian exile, giving credit to the inner threadbare Egyptians, of heretical transformations occurring behind jagged DNA dream codes and splotched an obscene territory of winged demons, aerial creatures bearing branded vials of amputated ghost out of his prison and off the forsaken island he calls Marienbad in the bones, a quantity of tainted celluloid on the cutting room floor, a jar of pickled sea monsters Egyptians, of heretical transformations occurring behind jagged DNA dream codes and splotched sallow through anxious gaunt smirks where a shower of glittering emerald flakes descends unhurried to be alive are really dead inside the filmmaker’s unrequited love interest as he searches to the inner world, the world of fire, the world behind the masonry walls of the everyday, tunes of homicidal alien bewilderment, of old coins and fermented blood, of desiccated cats and threadbare Egyptians and MORE!

That was what Phil Spector would call a Wall of Text

Fantastic idea!

It's an interesting idea though the execution isn't wonderful. This sort of thing has been around for decades and it is part of an important movement that understands the significance of understanding that language does things other than make meaning - it has all sorts of other values that we typically ignore in our desire to make sense of the world.

You explain my work better than me!

Thanks for your consideration. I really do appreciate folks taking some notice of my work. I appropriate all kinds of stuff.

Writing is hard, copying is easy.

The text for the SMiLE series is taken from a few online sources (as indicated in the product descriptions), and mixed up accordingly (as wanted or needed). It's my personal love letter to SMiLE and it's community.

Anyone can do this, but not many do!

I just gotta say again, this album is blowing me away.

Every track has got something that keeps me coming back.  

This morning, Nothing But Love sounded so simple, pure, and fun.  I agree it is like a 15 Big Ones track, and also, it reminds of MIU.  I particularly love the singing on this track.  Very subtlely fill of nuance, with good tone and phrasing.

Back to I've Got Plenty of Nothin, yeah, this track at first wasn't my favorite when I first heard an mp3 version, but WHEN I heard the official CD, and the great sonics, this instrumental jumped into life, and completely blew me away.  It has great texture and drive.

MattB

PS Some tracks do bring a smile to my face: Love Is Here To Stay brings to mind Sally from When Harry Met Sally dragging her Christmas tree home through the snow, it's so smooth...

I think of Christmas too, when I hear Love Is Here To Stay.

What Luther quoted, from the NPR show, was a little disconcerting:

Brian: "I never really heard much from Gershwin except for Rhapsody in Blue until I did this album. I had to be taught every song, all twelve songs, the way, all the way through, by my bandleader and my orchestrator, Paul Mertens."

I love the album, and how it sounds, but this knocked the wind out of my sails a little, considering the way the album is marketed as if Brian had a lifelong musical fascination with Gershwin, perhaps he did with Rhapsody in Blue, but not the other work, according to this quote.

Hi Leo,

I can't think of any other artist that has the ability to disappoint in interviews, the way BW does! With every release he says something that implies he's actually had nothing to do with the record he's promoting, and this can be tremendously deflating as a BW fan, especially if you are busy getting excited about, or defending the music in question. It would indeed be a shame if he was as unfamiliar with the material as the aforementioned quote would suggest. I have no idea. I'm inclined to side with Wirestone on the theory that Brian just says a lot of crazy merda, and you have to take it all with a pinch of salt. Remember, this is the man who recently claimed to have never heard Pacific Ocean Blue!!

What I do find exciting about this album is that from all accounts (and the man's own enthusiasm in interviews), Brian was heavily involved in the writing (of the 2 'new' pieces), production and arrangement, and personally I think you can hear it. Doubtless as I type this Brian's probably doing an interview somewhere where he is claiming to be unaware that he even has a new album out.

For my money, when it comes to new BW releases, you have to go with your gut and and ask yourself if it moves you in the same way his other work does. What I excites me about this new stream of work post BWPS is that BW is creating some real gems that stand up alongside, and expand on the quality of, his solo career. You can't underestimate the work put in by his band of course. I think they help stitch the songs together with that Smile segue thing that many find off-putting. They're also extremely adept at recreating Wilson's trademark styles and sounds from any BB era. I can appreciate why this annoys a lot of fans. My take on this is that Brian has a band that is able to guide him in creating music that constantly tips a hat to his own legacy. They help to maintain, reinforce and finesse the Brian Wilson brand. As time goes on, I think I'm cool with this as they do it so well.

However there are songs like Message Man, Oxygen To The Brain, Morning Beat, Midnight's Another Day, Nothing But Love, that couldn't be the work of anyone but BW. Stick them in a playlist alongside Melt Away, Rio Grande, You're Still A Mystery, Water Builds Up, Cry, How Could We Still Be Dancing (substitute your own favourites here obviously!) and for me, the whole obsession with who did what becomes irrelevant - It's self evident that BW is the man behind these songs and imo he still has much of the melodic, and rhythmic sensabilities that he had in the 70s. Just listen to the stop, start rhythm of Morning Beat - it's so unmistakenly Brian and has featured on countless songs throughout his career: Love To Say Dada, Had To Phone Ya, Johnny Carson, I'll Bet He's Nice to name but a few. This is just one example of Brian's fingerprint on this new output. I think certain quirks of his writing and production style are unfakeable. No there won't be another Pet Sounds obviously, but he's not too far behind his late 70s self in the writing and production stakes imo.

Excellent post and well said!

I remember I read somewhere, regarding art, is that the final product is what counts, and in the end, this new album has really impressed, the more I listen.  I feel BWRG is another winner like BWPS, and TLOS...I like how these albums, almost have a similar sound, like they belong in a trilogy.  This must be the result of Brian's excellent band, as well as Brian's way of working, and musical fingerprints.

It's not really confined to just Brian, I'd like to point out.  Many, many, many, many celebrities and certainly musicians often say things that are just completely false.  For a while when I was younger I was into hiphop pretty good... these people just flat out say whatever the hell pops in their mind, knowing damn well that they're completely lying about it.

There's something about an interview, where it sets things up with such a false, insincere environment that I think it just leads to people feeling it doesn't matter what they say.  I'm a psychology major (or was, until I graduated!) so things like this fascinate me. 

When musicians do these huge publicity junkets or whatever they're considered, the entire thing is so fake that I think it just takes people out of reality or something.  There's something really strange about having 15 different people in the course of a couple hours ask you exactly the same questions, and you tell them exactly the same answers.  I don't know if they lie out of bordem, or what it is. 

I've heard Bonos name mentioned a lot recently on here for instance.  U2 keeps popping up, so we'll take him.  I've heard 4 different accounts of how the song "One" was written, FROM HIM, over the years in various interviews.  Certainly at least 3 of them are lies. 

I don't think they mean any harm by it, it's just what happens.  Maybe they're trying to please the interviewer, I don't know.

Brian certainly goes a little farther  than most, but the music industry is full of interviews that are less than truthfull.  When Brian said his band leader had to teach him all 12 songs, he was flat out, bald faced lying about it.  Complete fantasy, never happened. 

And thanks for your thoughts Ron.

Leo -- We talked about this quote earlier on the thread. Basically, Brian is full of it. The man produced a version of "Summertime" in 1964. He loves Rosemary Clooney and talked on the other NPR interview (taped the same day!) about other performers' versions of the Gershwin songs. He mentioned Linda Ronstadt and Herb Alpert by name. He has specifically wanted to make a standards album.

So he clearly knew of the songs and knew other performers' versions of them, even if he wasn't a total devotee. My assumption is simply that he means he didn't know how to play the songs, and that he didn't know the lyrics off the top of his head. He would need to know those things to arrange and produce the album, so Paul likely brought over some sheet music or something for the two to go over.

Yeah, that makes more sense.  On Brian's album, his renditions are so realized, and he has his own vision regarding the material...so obviously, he had some knowledge!



There's something about this new album that really lifts me spirits...there are also quite a few poignant moments that are melancholy, but so beautiful.

What Luther quoted, from the NPR show, was a little disconcerting:

Brian: "I never really heard much from Gershwin except for Rhapsody in Blue until I did this album. I had to be taught every song, all twelve songs, the way, all the way through, by my bandleader and my orchestrator, Paul Mertens."

I love the album, and how it sounds, but this knocked the wind out of my sails a little, considering the way the album is marketed as if Brian had a lifelong musical fascination with Gershwin, perhaps he did with Rhapsody in Blue, but not the other work, according to this quote.

I enjoy listening to the greenline Japanese CD, which I believe is a flat digital copy of the LA tape.  Not as warm and analog sounding as the DCC, but also not as murky, it's more detailed, musical instruments are easier to pick out, there's not as much bass as the DCC but some might see that as an improvement.  The selling point for me is Brian's vocals on the greenline sound so clear and distinct like he's singing to you in your room as you listen, a palpable presence that I don't get from the DCC or the AF.  But the sound is definitely more "digital" (early A/D converters no doubt).

You know, I really like the Greenline as well, the vocals sound great, and I can turn up the volume and the vocals are not harsh.  I really like this pressing for this reason, and for the reasons you mention...the greenline is still in the game as far as I'm concerned!

Since listening to the new AF Pet Sounds I've gone though most my other PS releases...green label LP, warner LP, DCC LP, DCC CD, and this new AF is the most clear on my system (and the bass the most gorgeous)...it was an amazing listening experience all the way through, bringing some kind of old remembered magic back...

Still love the old DCC for the heavy bass and murky quality, but now love this AF for the overall balance, detail and clarity, with no loss of that bass, and the sound is less murky overall...with a sweet high end so beautiful on the ears.  The difference between the DCC and AF is obvious. 

You won't be dissapointed!!!

When I first heard the album the spoken word stuff bugged me, mainly because of Wilson's delivery--as pieces of beat poetry I didn't think they were spectacular but they weren't bad too...but when I listened to it later and let the whole album wash over me, it somehow worked for me in a sort of weird, inarticulate way...also...It would be a very short album without them!

Same thing happened here...I really love the narrative bits, and how they roll right after the tunes, to carry the vibe of the previous tune alittle longer.  I like Brian's delivery on the first narrative the best, his voice is real convincing here...sounds really into it...his voice kinda growls low too.

Love the muted trumpet on the narrative that introduces "Oxygen to the Brain"...

This really is cool.   Besides Brian seeming so relaxed, I also enjoy watching his own band mates.  They act like we would.  There's a reverence there, that makes it all even cooler.  Does that make sense??

I don't know...I actually found the clip disturbing.  Brian doesn't look relaxed at all...he just wants to get to the hotel.  My impression anyways...no offense given. 

Um,  Wagmer doesn't post here. That hypothesis and the discussion about this video on the Record Roon ain't gonna fly here.

My impression...no offense given.

[OFFENDS]

My impression anyways...no offense given. 

This OFFENDS me!!!