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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian’s involvement in solo albums
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on: October 02, 2021, 02:40:15 AM
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To answer the question posed by the OP: I think to get the clearest view of what it's like to work with Brian in the modern context, you should read Stephen McParland's book about the Gary Usher 1986 sessions. And do so without the prejudice that every negative aspect of Brian's personality or working method is Eugene Landy's fault. (A view that Gary Usher never endorses even as his personal opinion of Landy plummets.) Doing this cleared up a lot for me.
I think a lot of Brian's gifts are still with him in regards to vocal arrangement and charm, but he's needed -- not desired, needed -- collaborators to finish anything since his mid-twenties. Initially, I think this was psychologically aversive in nature. By the mid-70s I think it's brain damage due to compulsive drug abuse and past the early 80s it's compounded brain damage. This isn't to say that he's a zombie, he seems perfectly functional and sensible in non-musical aspects, but I do think he's 50 years past the point where he could "turn it on" if he really wanted to simply because what he did took an enormous capacity for concentration and organized creative thought. And that's fine, really, it's not like he wasted time during his fruitful years -- but I think there's a tendency for Beach Boys fans to continuously revisit post-73 material as if by repeating an unpleasant narrative in their head that it will turn out better this time. (Beatles fans do this with the break-up -- it is the subject of 50% of Beatles podcasts -- and I suspect it's not uncommon with other enthusiast communities.) This isn't to say that Brian wasn't responsible for enjoyable music post-73, but was it great, or even continuous with what he was capable of in the 60s? Is inability more of an influence than changing aesthetic inclinations? If Raffi had recorded the lead vocal for Solar System and released it under his name, would anyone care about the track?
(Addendum: I don't get the fetishization of the "Everything I Need" demo. It's not a revival of Pet Sounds aesthetic, it sounds like Andrew Gold.)
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Why has \
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on: July 03, 2017, 03:51:48 PM
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Yeah, I can't put my finger on it but Mike sounds especially bad on the track. Just a very poor showing all-around, derivative composition, and they were better at nostalgia before and after. Nothing "classic" about it.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The biggest revelation about Sunshine Tomorrow.. Brian's level of involvement..
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on: July 01, 2017, 12:43:37 PM
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To me the more interesting question is: if Brian was still mostly calling the shots through the Friends era, why did he decide to change the produced credit from Brian to The Beach Boys at all? Three reasons, not musically exclusive. 1. A desire to re-integrate the Boys and the band concept into the recording process following, from Brian's own account, a near break-up when Brian unilaterally decided to shelve a year's worth of expensive and time-consuming recording work. 2. A deliberate rejection of the "Brian as musical godhead" identity that had been built around him by well-meaning public relations officers but, from Brian's perspective, had produced very little usable material. 3. Passive aggression.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The selling of the SOT catalogue
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on: October 08, 2015, 04:59:23 PM
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In all humility, I'd be interested in hearing the in-depth reasoning behind the "forged signature" scenario from someone like AGD. Too much innuendo about stuff like this, not enough hard facts.
Very simple - the accusation came up as a consequence of Brian's lawsuit to get his publishing back from Almo/Irving, when the sale documents were examined. That a hard enough fact for you ? That's not a simple answer, it's a vague and insulting one that restates my premises and doesn't speak to any of my points at all. I'm aware of the accusation and when it came up. What I'm asking is: if it was determined in a court of law that the signature wasn't Brian's, if anyone without a reason to lie has outright said that the signature wasn't Brian's, if it was notarized and what the notary would have gained from a criminal conspiracy, etc. I think these are questions I'd like to have resolved before we accuse a dead man of a felony, and if they can't be answered then the idea needs to be downgraded from "[almost] certainty" to "apocrypha originating from the Landy Camp" and treated as such. I think you if anybody could give substantial answers to these questions instead of yelling at clouds over an imagined slight.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The selling of the SOT catalogue
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on: October 07, 2015, 01:15:25 AM
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The whole deal is a huge gray area to me. Not to make a virtue of ignorance, but I've read what most Beach Boy enthusiasts have said and wish to believe about the SOT as it relates to Brian's narrative -- as a layman I'm still unclear how the sale could have gone through without a notarized signature, what rights were actually being sold, etc.
I'm inclined to believe that Brian signed despite fundamental misgivings, that his signature being acquired was how he was informed of the sale, and that he could have stopped it if he wanted. I've certainly heard the rumors of a forged signature, but 1) these accusations seem to have started with Team Landy trying to maximize Brian's fiscal worth in conjunction with making Landy Brian's prime beneficiary and 2) and people have tended toward similar accusations about every contract and loan agreement of this era except the Warner contract, where we have photographic evidence of Brian signing. I'm not closed at all to the idea of Murray doing it -- as Al Jardine and Gary Usher could tell you, petty stuff like this was the order of the day with Murry -- but the accusations lose their sting when you read similar stuff about forging Brian's signature putting up the Bellagio house as collateral to raise petty cash for the Brother machine. That's way harder to swallow.
In all humility, I'd be interested in hearing the in-depth reasoning behind the "forged signature" scenario from someone like AGD. Too much innuendo about stuff like this, not enough hard facts.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / Smile Sessions Box Set (2011) / Re: TSS - All things DYLW
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on: November 07, 2011, 03:00:09 AM
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No, it's obviously meant to be the real secret melody Melinda's been suppressing all this time and anyone with ears can tell! Now, please consult these supplemental diagrams I've drawn up and cross-reference them with these helpful youtube videos and mp3s....
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Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Weezers Pinkerton
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on: February 20, 2006, 05:44:42 PM
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Maladroit's a great album. Really tight songsmanship.
I think the problem with Rivers Cuomo is that he's decided, like many of the big mid-90's alt-rock names, that he really likes being a rock star and will continue to write music that he thinks will be popular until he dies. This overriding commercial interest will synergize with artistic interests only on an incidental basis. Fortunately, he's an excellent craftsman so many won't notice.
I think his other big problem is that he somehow got the impression he should be idolizing Green Day and Oasis when they are at the most his peers and at the least his artistic inferiors.
A Weezer Box would be awesome, if only for the unleaked Pinkerton (non SFTBH) tracks. Outside of a mention in Rivers' Edge, I don't think anyone's heard hide nor hair of them.
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Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Prince
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on: February 04, 2006, 11:33:51 PM
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merda, i missed him on SNL. How was it?
edit: Saw the SNL stuff and Black Sweat on Housequake. I wasn't really feeling musicology, but Prince is fucking BACK with this new stuff. All of it is really really strong. It should conquer every chart, and then a new chart should be made especially for Prince.
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Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: NME readers: And the greatest British albums ever are...
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on: January 30, 2006, 01:57:13 PM
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NOT ON THE LIST:
Anything from Public Image Ltd.
T. Rex - "Slider" "Electric Warrior"
Nick Drake - "Pink Moon" ANY DAMN CURE ALBUM BESIDES "HEAD ON THE DOOR"
OH, AND A LITTLE ROLLING STONES ALBUM CALLED "STICKY FINGERS"
ON THE LIST:
2 Oasis albums!? Putting one in the top ten was already pushing it...
Manic Street Preachers - The Holy Bible
The Streets - A Grand Don't Come For Free & Original Pirate Material
The Human League - Dare!
Albums by the Libertines, who NME won't acknowledge has been thouroughly exposed as a hypejob
Muse - Absolution
i'm beginning to see why all the new hyped UK bands end up sucking. at least they resisted the temptation to jam Art Brut in there.
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