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51  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Bangles on: April 29, 2014, 02:45:03 AM
Yes, The Bangles are underrated - have promised myself that next time they venture to the UK I must go and see them !
52  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Christopher Cross talks about Carl & Brian a bit and he was in DEEP PURPLE! on: March 25, 2014, 07:16:38 AM
Interesting article...but why would Jon Lord, Mick Fleetwood and Jimmy Page deny all the incidents Mr Cross mentions ?
Maybe, because they did thousands of shows over their career and can't remember every one. That Cross went by his real name Geppert, so nothing super monumental to remember. Do you really think Mick Fleetwood remembers every driver that ever drove him to and from venues and hotels?

Very cool to read about the love and respect that Cross holds for Carl & Brian, and that Michael McDonald listens to Surf's Up. Smiley
Oh yes, I agree - their memories may be fading over age and time, and they might not remember certain people and events, but surely Jon Lord would've remembered that Deep Purple played their 1st US show with a substitute guitarist ?
53  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Christopher Cross talks about Carl & Brian a bit and he was in DEEP PURPLE! on: March 25, 2014, 06:15:17 AM
Interesting article...but why would Jon Lord, Mick Fleetwood and Jimmy Page deny all the incidents Mr Cross mentions ?
54  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Touring BB Bands of 2014 on: February 28, 2014, 06:17:12 AM
Harlow Stadium

Ha, my old hometown.

A Brian Wilson standing gig is okay.  Rock n' roll, and all that.  Was standing near the front at his Roundhouse show a few years ago.  I recall a guy jumped the barrier at one point (god knows why) and was hauled off by security.
I remember it well, I was in front of Gary Griffin when it happened !
I remember that-it wasn't me, by the way!
I really enjoyed standing at The Roundhouse although the look on Brian's face when Gary Griffin's keyboard collapsed...!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idYZgsoCezE

 Grin
55  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Amusement Parks U.S.A - thumbs up or thumbs down? on: February 22, 2014, 07:57:20 AM
Thumbs up ! A really good, fun Beach Boys number !
56  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Carl Wilson and Smile on: February 18, 2014, 02:39:21 AM
Coming back to the topic, it shouldn't be forgotten that Carl and Stephen Desper did so much to ensure the preservation of the Smile tapes, whether or not it was to assemble Smile for a 1972 release under the terms of The Beach Boys' Warners contract. For that alone we should be grateful to them, as without the tapes no bootlegs, no BWPS, no TSS.
57  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: the correct perspective on: February 14, 2014, 08:16:41 AM
Are we discussing the author behind the "Remember The Zoo" article as collected in Kingsley Abbott's Back To The Beach collection ?
58  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Denni redux on: February 07, 2014, 07:21:38 AM
So - the person calling themselves "Denni" stole this girl's images, and now the girl in the photos has been informed of this, i.e. she wasn't actually "Denni" ?
59  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson's Secret Bedroom Tapes - LA Weekly 1-30-14 on: January 30, 2014, 01:45:02 PM
So, Van Dyke Parks can time travel as well, can he ? "I went over to Brian's with my new Walkman", a device not on sale 'til 1979. Presumably he's using "Walkman" as the generic term meaning "portable cassette recorder"...

Still, if Alan Boyd "confirms that enough material exists to comprise a new release focused solely on the "Bedroom Tapes." " then this is very exciting news !
60  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Bass Guitar Sound on: January 23, 2014, 07:54:24 AM
Here's Carol Kaye discussing her BB's bass sound  (as interviewed for Good Vibrations - A History Of Record Production by Mark Cunningham) :

"Brian had such definite bass ideas. He liked me to have more of a treble sound on my Fender Precision than I personally liked and used on other people's sessions, and I used a Fender Concert amp with an open back 4 x 10" Utah speaker cabinet, the same set-up I used from "Help Me Rhonda" through to "Heroes And Villains", and all the other stuff in between like Simon & Garfunkel's "Homeward Bound". The speakers were usually miked with a Shure 545 which worked best when centred on the cabinet and placed back about one and a half feet, although some engineers liked to stick the mic right up on the grill, up high on one speaker. I also used a Gibson Maestro fuzz box for a fuzz bass line which never made it on to the released single [Good Vibrations]. It was just another experiment that Brian wanted to try."
61  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Anyone else love the Eels? on: January 20, 2014, 10:04:21 AM
Certainly Beautiful Freak, Electro-Shock Blues and Daisies Of The Galaxy are superb. Bit of a gap in my collection after that, but have Wonderful Glorious, and it's not bad at all.
62  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike hopes to \ on: January 19, 2014, 04:39:36 AM
Luke Winkie ? Is that the writer's real name ?
63  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Anyone think Brian Wilson was continuing Smile work after May 1967? on: January 11, 2014, 03:46:37 AM
How about Brad Elliott's theory (from LLVS) that Capitol intended to release the remainder of Smile after Smiley Smile (as catalogue no. Brother ST-9002) ?

"Among other things, the memo [from Capitol A&R director Karl Engeman] indicates that even after the recording of Smiley Smile, Plans were being made to finish and release Smile"
64  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Touring BB Bands of 2014 on: January 08, 2014, 06:38:26 AM
Hoping M&B add an indoor show this London visit.  Not too interested about seeing them at Hampton Court.
Especially not at the prices quoted...would love to see them do a more extensive UK tour as they did in 2004 and 2008 !
Would also be nice to see Brian and his band (with Al and David if possible) do a big UK tour...
65  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New article on Dennis on: January 07, 2014, 11:22:52 AM
Another year, another article on Dennis :

http://sabotagetimes.com/music/dennis-wilson-the-self-destructive-beach-boy-who-was-the-most-talented-of-the-lot

Warning - a few of the same old myths are perpetuated, a well-meaning but not entirely accurate article...
66  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 30 years ago today. on: December 28, 2013, 12:59:38 PM
Another version of "Holy Man" is awaiting release?  I hope we get to hear that sometime soon.
Would this be the "London" version of "Holy Man" that features Brian May and Roger Taylor of Queen ?
67  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Guitars! For Fans Of Carl Wilson, Late 60's BB's, and 60's Stuff In General... on: December 03, 2013, 11:13:31 AM
Thanks for the info ! I could be wrong but I'm sure I've also seen him use a white 12-string 355, would this have been the "Custom Shop" order he mentions in the interview ?
68  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Guitars! For Fans Of Carl Wilson, Late 60's BB's, and 60's Stuff In General... on: December 03, 2013, 10:12:40 AM
So the 12-string Gibson semis that Jeffrey Foskett has been playing during his time with BW's band, would those be vintage instruments or modern reissues ? They certainly look immaculate and sound great whatever they are...
69  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: MAN!! YOU GOTTA LOVE THIS!!!!! on: November 28, 2013, 12:10:19 AM
That's almost as good as the edition of Wouldn't It Be Nice : My Own Story I saw where the picture on the sleeve highlighted Carl instead of Brian as the subject of the book.  Smiley
70  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Artists getting screwed by executives on: November 21, 2013, 11:27:33 AM
Oh my GOD Bill Nelson another Badfinger without the tragic end..I OWNED the 1st half dozen BEE BOP DELUXE lp"s..They were very good + Inventive. And a fine guitar player..I wondered what happened to him in the mid 80"s. Lost track of him.. And those lp"s sold well in the USA..I didn't pay the money to line EMI"s pocket.. I payed it to BILL NELSON so he could continue to create more music..This SUCKS..!!!!!!!!!!

Bill Nelson still frequently records, but unfortunately, the website of a British Magazine "Sound on Sound" has been set up as the exclusive seller of all of Bill Nelson's CD's from the past decade...and their selling prices are absurdly high, even by UK standards. Also, the Parlophone label(now part of Warner Music, and successor to the 1969-2011 Harvest catalog) recently released a 3-CD + DVD(NTSC) set of Be Bop Deluxe's BBC recordings. There can be no full reunion of the group, because bassist/harmony singer Charlie Tumahai died from heart problems some years back.

Check out www.billnelson.com
Cohen strikes back ! Have just had a quick scan of the store at www.billnelson.com and don't think that £10/15 per cd is "absurdly high, even by UK standards" at all. In fact, that's what I'd expect to pay for a premium cd, especially one from a (with respect) niche artist such as Mr Nelson. How much would you expect to pay for premium/niche cd's ?
71  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Bellagio 10452 - Gigs & sessions 2001-2013 on: November 21, 2013, 06:46:51 AM
Nice work - now on to Stage 2, how many shows have all the Beach Boys sidemen played ?  Grin

Kowalski and Carter would probably top the list , but how many shows have Figueroa, Bardowell, Foskett, Munoz, Altbach, Totten, Kirsch, Bonhomme, Cowsill, Meros, Baker, etc. played ?

72  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: I was totally made for these times on: November 15, 2013, 01:48:18 PM
"Beautiful Spanish lyrics" Huh
73  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Artists getting screwed by executives on: November 15, 2013, 07:54:40 AM
In the past year, I have watched 2 music documentaries where artists get ripped by others more then I ever imagined.

First was 'Sugar Man'. A folk singer/song writer from Detroit named Sixto Rodriguez recorded music in the early 70s. He never even made it big in his home town. So he quit music to do constuction. Meanwhile, a fan that bought his lp went back to their home town of South Africa. They shared it with there friends and after a while his music became a voice of a generation for South Africa. The Bob Dylan of their country, and as popular as anyone in music there. Someone was making a lot of money from sales in South Africa. I suppose he didn't want to share the wealth with anyone so he didn't tell Sixto Rodriguez. A story came out in South Africa that Sixto had died. A media member from South Africa wanted to find out more about Sixto. When he found out his home town was Detroit, he was stunned that Sixto was alive. And Sixto was surprised that he was famous in another country!

Funny that you mention this one. I hadn't thought someone else on this board would have actually seen this docu or even have heard of him at all. I bought the dvd of this doc in South Africa when I visited Cape Town last Aug./Sept. It's both a sad and fullfilling story to watch. Sad because of the missed opportunities, but the positive side is that at the end the story has come full circle. 1000’s of fans (of all ages) finally got to see their hero when he did several sold out performances in S.A.. And Sixto humbly accepted all the media attention and finally got the honour he well-deserved. And after that?... he went back to his home town to do his construction work… 

The search for “Sugarman” started in the early 90ies, when the internet wasn’t that huge yet. Bear in mind that all they had were those 2 LP’s including the limited info on the cover, and Sixto’s lyrics to start the search with. It’s the lyrics especially that made him so popular there in the 70ies. They matched perfectly with the turbulence within the youth culture towards the government and the political direction of the country. Songs on his records were censored (scratched) if the government got hold of them. Plus that the rumours on his untimely death had become mythical (he had either shot himself to death, or set fire to himself on stage in front of his audience, displeased with the total disinterest of his audience)

I really recommend checking this docu out.

Yes. In the end, it is a happy story. I just can't get over the scum bag that made up a story about Sexto killing himself. Probably that the royalties would go directly to them. But it is a great documentary I watched in the theater.
Agreed, it's a great documentary, and it introduced me to a brilliant artist whose work I was previously unaware of.
Every time I meet a South African, I ask them about Rodriguez and if his music is as important in South Africa as the documentary suggests, and the answer is always a resounding "yes" !
74  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Artists getting screwed by executives on: November 14, 2013, 02:35:12 PM
How about this one - Bill Nelson has never been paid properly (or at all) for his sterling work with Be Bop Deluxe :

http://www.jagshouse.com/music/billnelson.html
75  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Bee Gees on: November 13, 2013, 09:50:34 AM
I've somehow become fascinated with this other famous brotherly harmony group beginning with the letter B. I'd just like to ask the board - where do I start collecting Bee Gees ? Any recommendations ?
I'm aware of their disco and hit-making period, but it's their early period stuff I'm interested in - Odessa, Cucumber Castle, Horizontal, Idea, Bee Gee's 1st, etc.
What do you consider essential ? What should I avoid ?
Don't want to pick up the ubiquitous Greatest Hits collections but want to get into the deep cuts and hidden gems...
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