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51  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: I'm Feeling Sad on: March 30, 2015, 07:17:00 AM
Good song!
52  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: LISTEN TO THE LAST SONG & ON THE ISLAND!! BBC RADIO on: March 29, 2015, 07:14:54 AM
but none of these songs jump out and grab me.

Sadly I have to admit the same thing. I love a lot of Brian's recent work. Many of the songs on TWGMTR were so gorgeous that they transcended the 'adult contemporary' production choices. For me this latest stuff really does feel like it's designed for an older audience. More power to Brian - that's clearly where he's at and he's productive which is great. Plus I haven't heard all the NPP songs yet so there may still be some that do it for me ...
You hit the nail on the head for me! Some songs on TWGMTR were so stunning that they transcended the AC production choices and here I find the same AC production choices (sometimes taken a bit further), but not the stunners.
53  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson Taping Soundstage Special With Special Guests on: March 20, 2015, 07:21:07 AM
Great live version of The Right Time! Works much better for me sans the Adult Contemporary 90s production touches.
54  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Runaway Dancer available for purchase on itunes on: March 19, 2015, 04:54:33 AM
The name Brian Wilson has never been commercially successful on it's own and I doubt that this album will change it. Runaway Dancer alienates Brian's and the Beach Boys' audience and won't attract a new one. A miscalculation.
55  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Runaway Dancer available for purchase on itunes on: March 17, 2015, 01:06:24 PM
Its a lot more interesting than"the right time" - bit of a grower.

Yeah, I grow weary of the growers.  I want something to thrill me at first listen.  I get sick of hearing how much more I'd like something if I understood its context and just let it grow for a while.

For me --

Midnight's Another Day
Just Like Me and You
From There and Back Again
Great that you singled out Just Like Me And You, that's one of Brian's best and most unknown tunes of the last 20 or so years!!
56  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Runaway Dancer available for purchase on itunes on: March 17, 2015, 04:33:11 AM
Hehe that's true!
57  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Runaway Dancer available for purchase on itunes on: March 17, 2015, 04:15:09 AM
Ouch  Shrug
"Gentlemen, I think I've just been f***ed"
58  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Preview No Pier Pressure On Google Play! on: March 10, 2015, 11:35:35 AM
Why is that, if I may politely ask so?
Because I have heard artifacts, echo, compression and the like on previews that were not present later when I bought the physical product.
Given that previews are extracted from the final digital production masters already waiting in the wings of iTunes, amazon etc., that is very interesting.
Of course, the quality of streams is a lot lower than the hi-res masters and it has an effect on the listening experience for trained ears. I've had leaked albums in mp3 that I couldn't get into until I bought the vinyl on release day. It can make the difference between begin able to let music into your heart or not.
BUT, the previews are the final product. It is what is. I'm appalled by the way some people feel personally offended by someone having another view and listening experience. There's no need to try and convince others of what to hear or experience. It's a personal experience and everybody's has it's own and has the right to have their own taste, views and experience.
Yorick, you specifically and politely asked me why I thought that way. Listen, you do whatever you want. You shouldn't have bothered posting if you didn't want to hear about anyone else's experience with it.
I was very interested in why you stated what you did because the previews are the final digital production masters, hence why I asked you to specify.
Otherwise I was not addressing you with the second part of my post. I'm very, very interested in and open to others' personal opinions on and experiences with the samples provided so far.
That said, I just don't like it when people take offense if somebody else's views are different to theirs and critical of artistic choices made by Brian.
No one on this board is not a fan of the genius of Brian Wilson, so with that out of the way we should be able to let everybody have their say in a polite and thorough manner. No need to convince anybody.
59  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Preview No Pier Pressure On Google Play! on: March 10, 2015, 02:05:49 AM
Why is that, if I may politely ask so?
Because I have heard artifacts, echo, compression and the like on previews that were not present later when I bought the physical product.
Given that previews are extracted from the final digital production masters already waiting in the wings of iTunes, amazon etc., that is very interesting.
Of course, the quality of streams is a lot lower than the hi-res masters and it has an effect on the listening experience for trained ears. I've had leaked albums in mp3 that I couldn't get into until I bought the vinyl on release day. It can make the difference between begin able to let music into your heart or not.
BUT, the previews are the final product. It is what is. I'm appalled by the way some people feel personally offended by someone having another view and listening experience. There's no need to try and convince others of what to hear or experience. It's a personal experience and everybody's has it's own and has the right to have their own taste, views and experience.
60  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Preview No Pier Pressure On Google Play! on: March 09, 2015, 12:53:33 PM
Why is that, if I may politely ask so?
61  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Preview No Pier Pressure On Google Play! on: March 09, 2015, 12:47:33 PM
I'm very happy for those who don't have an issue with the production. I mean, I wish I didn't so I could just truly enjoy the music!
Judging by the previews, this album is better than a Brian Wilson album has any right to be this late in the game, so it's truly a great gift to us all. The songwriting seems really good.
But I'm having a hard time with the production values. All the overtly pitched vocals and cheesy Joe Thomas production touches are not my cup of tea at all.
It takes away from my enjoyment of the album. A great deal. I mean, the last Beach Boys album had the same issues. There were some top notch songs on it and the songwriting and cohesion was better than anyone could have expected. But boy, was the production hard for me to listen to. My favorite songs on the album are From There To Back Again and Pacific Coast Highway, but even on those songs I can't help but feel the emotional impact on me suffers from the overtly pitched vocals. Al's still a hell of singer and doesn't need to sound robotic. I hope people won't write angry responses to this message, cause I've been quite clear that this is my personal opinion. And through the years I've come to enjoy this place for people's critical views. This has always been a place for people that thought for themselves, that dug deeper than others, that turned stones. People that don't let commerce and clever press releases whip them up.


So you've heard all of NPP?  I haven't heard anything so far that makes Al sound robotic, or anyone else for that matter.  Brian has always used strong production techniques, back when autotune didn't exist.  I would imagine he's produced NPP in the same manner.
62  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Preview No Pier Pressure On Google Play! on: March 09, 2015, 12:15:55 PM
I'm very happy for those who don't have an issue with the production. I mean, I wish I didn't so I could just truly enjoy the music!
Judging by the previews this album is better than a Brian Wilson album has any right to be this late in the game, so it's truly a great gift to us all. The songwriting seems really good.
But I'm having a hard time with the production values. All the overtly pitched vocals and cheesy Joe Thomas production touches are not my cup of tea at all.
It takes away from my enjoyment of the album. A great deal. I mean, the last Beach Boys album had the same issues. There were some top notch songs on it and the songwriting and cohesion was better than anyone could have expected. But boy, was the production hard for me to listen to. My favorite songs on the album are From There To Back Again and Pacific Coast Highway, but even on those songs I can't help but feel the emotional impact on me suffers from the overtly pitched vocals. Al's still a hell of singer and doesn't need to sound robotic. I hope people won't write angry responses to this message, cause I've been quite clear that this is my personal opinion. And through the years I've come to enjoy this place for people's critical views. This has always been a place for people that thought for themselves, that dug deeper than others, that turned stones. People that don't let commerce and clever press releases whip them up.
63  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Preview No Pier Pressure On Google Play! on: March 09, 2015, 04:37:28 AM
What's with the cheesy 80s porn brass and classical guitar licks in some of the tracks? Imagination all over again! But with promising songs to accompany it.
64  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Busy Doin' Nothin' on: March 07, 2015, 08:04:43 AM
I think Busy Doin' Nothin' is a classic. The music is very intelligent and moving and a rare Bossa Nova excursion for Brian and the lyrics are a work of innocent genius. There's no songs like it, it's one of a kind.
65  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Busy Doin' Nothin' on: March 07, 2015, 03:00:08 AM
Steve Hoffman has this to say about the song:

"Geez, that song drives me nuts. Typical writer's block nonsense, IMO..

I talked to Brian Wilson over lunch at Jerry's Deli once about that song (he brought it up). He said it was "typical writer's block" nonsense as well!

We talked about Jack Kerouac and about how he couldn't write any more when he stopped doing neat stuff and became famous. Brian could relate.

Don't tell Brian you think this song is one of his greatest achievements, I think he would be appalled.

I like the music and stuff though. It's very catchy.

Sometimes, as Sigie Freud said, a Banana is just a Banana...

Brian needed a song for the album and he was having a very hard time trying to write anything. So, he wrote about what he did that day: Got up, peed, ate some Cocoa Puffs, etc.

It worked but the "higher meaning" is just a Banana.

Funny, it's one of the few songs from that album besides the title track that I play on a regular basis.

I personally think the lyrics work better as a straight poem. Very "beat". Imagine if Lawrence Ferlinghetti was reciting.."

 Grin
66  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Preview No Pier Pressure On Google Play! on: February 19, 2015, 04:21:49 PM
Sean O'Hagan said it best:
"As far as I can see, Joe Thomas hasn't got a clue about Brian Wilson or his legacy. It's all just 'Little Deuce Coupe' to him. He wanted Brian to make a big Eighties ballad record, all cavernous snares. He kept referring to Brian's potential as an Adult Contemporary crossover artist. I sad, 'Don't you realize Brian Wilson is essentially a 20th-century avant-garde pop genius?' And he went, 'Avant-garde? Not the Brian Wilson I know'"
67  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Preview No Pier Pressure On Google Play! on: February 19, 2015, 06:29:48 AM
This album is gonna get slaughtered by the critics!
68  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Paley sessions - some new info from Andy Paley on: February 10, 2015, 04:37:57 AM
"Slightly American Music" is allegedly almost entirely a Paley composition, and in private conversation with a mutual friend many years ago, he stated that "Soul Searching" was 95% him.
The first part of the verses is a complete rewrite of Brian's Hey Little Tomboy. The 'I heard it', 'I gotcha' and 'we made it' bits are Rudy Clark's Got My Mind Set On You and the 'Honest Abe done freed those slaves' bit is the 'Round and around and around we go, the music keeps me on my feet' hook from Brian's Roller Skating Child etc etc.
69  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Lost 1972-1974 BW Songs: Just An Imitation, Rooftop Harry, etc on: February 08, 2015, 04:33:59 PM
 Grin

Have the session tapes been found?
70  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Carl Wilson biography due September 29th on: February 08, 2015, 04:32:50 PM
Hope it'll be as good as the Carlin bio or the Harry Nilsson one.
71  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Lost 1972-1974 BW Songs: Just An Imitation, Rooftop Harry, etc on: February 08, 2015, 11:07:57 AM
And also anybody have any info on the rest of these songs, like if "Just An Imitation" was ever recorded, even as a demo? And I know somebody said "Lucy Jones" was an example of the "new" Brian voice, but I'm pretty sure this was still pre-voice change.

As far as I know, "Imitation" was never recorded, even as a home demo. However, I have heard "Lucy Jones", and it's primo 'shouty' Brian.  Grin
Dear Andrew,

on your excellent website you state that there probably was a session for Just an Imitation during the summer of 1974. Is this based on new evidence?
72  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: *Merged* Brian Wilson current album thread on: January 30, 2015, 07:52:58 AM
http://hasitleaked.com/2014/brian-wilson-no-pier-pressure/
73  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / Smiley Smilers Who Make Music / Re: Can a native English/American speaker tell me if a sentence is correct English? on: January 28, 2015, 01:04:00 PM
Thanks for your input!

This is the complete chorus:

These are the days that I'll treasure for life
Right here, right now is forever
Moments in time somehow captured in rhyme
These are the days that will last

Is that alright?
74  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / Smiley Smilers Who Make Music / Can a native English/American speaker tell me if a sentence is correct English? on: January 28, 2015, 12:50:37 PM
Hi there,

I'm currently writing a song called Days and the chorus starts with the sentence:

These are the days that I'll treasure for life

Can you say this like I think you can? Or does it sound unusual or odd? Does it make sense? Or should I change it to:

These are the days that I'll treasure like life

or:

These are the days, the true treasures of life

Any help would be appreciated!

This is the chorus as is:

These are the days that I'll treasure for life
Right here, right now is forever
Moments in time somehow captured in rhyme
These are the days that will last

Greetings,

Yorick
75  Smiley Smile Stuff / BRIAN WILSON Q & A / Were you aware of Paul McCartney's RAM album (1971) and your influence on it? on: January 26, 2015, 10:00:44 AM
Dear Brian, were you aware of Paul McCartney's RAM album (released in 1971) and some of the influences of your work on songs and arrangements on the album? If so, what did you think of it and how did it make you feel that you influenced Paul?

For example, Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey (a #1 hit in the U.S.A., https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI6C7L66zq8) was some sort of a pocket symphony and The Backseat Of My Car (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8pulOnIE5Q) was full of your patented vocal harmonies.

Thank you so much for all the great music! I'm looking forward to your new LP!

with kind regards,

Yorick
www.yorickvannorden.nl
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