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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New Beach Boys 2012 Remasters! on: October 16, 2012, 09:35:08 PM
I was not enamored with Smiley Smile when I first heard it with the original mono mix. In fact the mono Smiley version of Windchimes really creeped me out. Then I got a hold of the Sorta Stereo edition and it sounded like a whole other (and better) album to me. The new official stereo version takes things to the next level, I now freakin' love Smiley Smile, weird version of Windchimes and all.
2  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The 80 min. Compilation CD on: September 04, 2012, 07:15:40 PM
I was very dissapointed in the projected tracklist for the upcoming reissue of Peter Gabriel So. Here's the alternative I came up with:

Tracks 1 - 8: Original running order of vinyl version
9. Don't Break This Rhythm
10. Curtains
11. This is the Picture (Excellent Birds)
12. Big Time (12 Inch Remix)
13. In Your Eyes (12 Minute Live Version with additional verse.)
14. We Do What We're Told (Demo)
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Name One Song You'd Wish The BBs Should Have Covered on: September 02, 2012, 09:17:31 AM
There is Nothing More to Say - The Millennium (This would have fit well on one of the late 60's or early 70's albums.)

The Waiting - Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers (This would have fit well on Light Album or KTSA. Mike could take the verses and Carl and Al could do the chorus.)

4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Some Nice Brian-Inspired Artwork on: August 29, 2012, 06:45:39 PM
I like the drawing with the sea monster, it reminds me of the visual look of Clerks The Animated Series.
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Better Album Title and Cover For 'Love You'? on: August 29, 2012, 02:26:15 PM
I like that photo too Hypehat. I used it as cover art for the Adult Child boot on my ipod.

I made my Beach Boys '77 cover using a program called GIMP which has similar features to Photoshop and used a PNG file of the Beach Boys logo I re-tinted and then I cropped the picture from this source: http://www.wjm2234.com/ebay/1977/ad-1977-2P-beach-boys-left-horz.jpg.
6  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Name 3 good things that came from the Yellow Submarine film on: August 29, 2012, 02:15:29 PM
3. Animated tributes on The Simpsons and Futurama
2. Hey Bulldog and It's All Too Much
1." Argentina?"

Also, according to Eric Idle, some of the original Yellow Submarine animators made the Cheese and Onions sequence and he said "They loved being payed to make fun of themselves."
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Psychedelic Barbershop Quartet on: August 27, 2012, 06:59:39 PM
I agree that his official discography from when he was still alive is flawless and I'm also a fan of the posthumous albums from the early 70's, Cry of Love through Loose Ends and his live set from the 1970 Atlanta Pop Fest.
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Better Album Title and Cover For 'Love You'? on: August 25, 2012, 05:32:53 PM
This is the album art I made for my compilation of all original late 70's Beach Boys material;

9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Most/Least Cohesive BB album on: August 20, 2012, 07:11:03 PM
Most: Wild Honey (it's a shame it didn't have a few more songs on it, I like the outtakes,) and Holland.


Least: Still Cruisin' (you know what, Mike Love was right here, it should have just rounded up the 80's soundtrack contributions and a couple of various 80's odds and ends,) and 20/20 (although technically this is not really an album proper, more a Beach Boys version of an album like the Monkees' Instant Replay, The Who's Odds and Sods or The Rolling Stones' Tattoo You. I do find 20/20 sounds slightly more unified if you drop the Smile and Friends outtakes and use some of the bonus tracks from the Friends and 20/20 twofer to fill in the gaps.)
10  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Beach Boys influence on punk rock- on: August 14, 2012, 02:07:26 PM
The Ramones' song 7-Eleven gives the Beach Boys a shout-out.
11  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Who Appreciation Thread on: August 14, 2012, 02:06:21 PM
There are bootlegs of the Who's BBC sessions with superior mixes to the released ones. Another really good Who live set is Tanglewood 1970 which is up on Wolfgang's Vault. Eagle Rock are releasing a DVD of The Who live in Houston '75 in October. I think they're planning on releasing it right around the same time as Pete's autobiography.
12  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Who Appreciation Thread on: August 03, 2012, 09:43:10 PM
I'm definitely right. But, yeah, check and track are words that sound close to each other. It also helps to actually own a copy of the album and see that the name of the cut is Track Records.

Yes, I.Spaceman is correct that it's Track Records. It refers to the UK based record label owned by the Who's 60's manager Chris Stamp and their 60's producer Kit Lambert. Track Records distributed the Who's discography in the UK from '66 to '75 and also initially had the UK distribution rights for Jimi Hendrix. Other acts on the label included The Crazy World of Aurthur Brown and Golden Earring.  In '75, Track Records were absorbed by Polydor.

The Who are my all time favorite band and it's very hard to pick just one favorite album. If pushed I would say Quadrophenia for studio work, Live at Leeds (especially the short original album and the '95 remaster) for live material. I'm also a big fan of Sell Out in both it's mono and stereo mixes. I also really like Pete Townshend's home demos and I've compiled an eight volume set of my favorite ones.  I also named my i-pod touch Gridlife in reference to Pete Townshend's storyline for Lifehouse.
13  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Jefferson Airplane on: August 01, 2012, 07:03:41 PM
She talks in her autobiography about how she was just after a payday and after a while could sense Mickey Thomas' dissatisfaction with having to share a stage and leader duties with her and in the late 80's used a shoulder injury as an excuse to bail from the band and cross the floor to the reunited Jefferson Airplane.  

Not long after Grace left, Starship drummer Donny Baldwin gave Mickey Thomas a head injury during a fight and Mickey replaced the rest of the band with a bunch of session musicians. He still plays county fairs, private parties and anywhere else that will have him in that incarnation of the band to this day.

In '84 she put all the eccentric songs she was working on in the early 80's that in the old days would have wound up on Airplane albums on her synth heavy solo album Software. I recommend it to fans of the Beach Boys Love You album.
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New Beach Boys 2012 Remasters! on: July 26, 2012, 02:57:36 PM
Me being picky: the 1993 box didn't pull songs from every album.  Old Man

They also put the Carl and the Passions material after the Holland material for some reason and didn't put California Dreamin' on disc four even through there was room.
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New Beach Boys 2012 Remasters! on: July 26, 2012, 01:21:13 PM
I think the key to plugging European and North American releases of stereo Beach Boys mixes is Smiley Smile. It's an album people love or hate and here's a way to completely re-evaluate it.  That's good fodder for music mags like Rolling Stone and Mojo.
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New Beach Boys 2012 Remasters! on: July 26, 2012, 10:28:15 AM
As I recall the Japan Who remasters with awesome bonus tracks from last year (which STILL haven't been issued here in North America! Grrrrr!  Evil) started showing up on the internets about two weeks after their release in Japan, so in this case I'd start looking in August.
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Because lists are cool: your favorite song on each album? on: July 25, 2012, 10:34:26 AM
Surfin' Safari: Heads You Win - Tails I Lose
Surfin' USA: Lonely Sea
Surfer Girl: In My Room (I nearly went with Little Deuce Coupe)
Little Deuce Coupe: Custom Machine
Shut Down Vol. 2: Don't Worry Baby
All Summer Long: All Summer Long
X-Mas Album: Little Saint Nick
Today!: Please Let Me Wonder
Summer Days: Salt Lake City
Party: You've Got To Hide Your Love Away
Pet Sounds: I Just Wasn't Made For These Times
SMiLE: Cabin Essence
Smiley Smile: Little Pad (from Smiley Smile Sorta Stereo)
Wild Honey: Let The Wind Blow
Friends: Wake the World
20/20: Be With Me
Sunflower: This Whole World
Surf's Up: Long Promised Road
Carl & the Passions So Tough: All This is That
Holland: The Trader (The Beach Boys go Prog Rock!)
15 Big Ones: Had to Phone Ya
Love You: The Night Was So Young
MIU: She's Got Rhythm (dat falsetto!)
LA: Baby Blue
Keepin' The Summer Alive: Goin' On
BB85: Where I Belong
Still Cruisin': In My Car
Summer in Paradise: Lahaina Aloha
TWGMTR: From There to Back Again

18  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Gimme Five: Song where the Beach Boys Sucked on: July 25, 2012, 06:28:28 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udNHsk57f24
19  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Gimme Five: Song where the Beach Boys Sucked on: July 23, 2012, 08:30:36 PM
I don't get why the Beach Boys and Columbia Records deemed Tomboy fit for release but not Everybody Wants to Live, It's Trying to Say or Lines.
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Gimme Five: Song where the Beach Boys Sucked on: July 22, 2012, 05:56:24 PM
5. Male Ego (Awful lyrics and why is Brian yelling at us?)
4. Student Demonstration Time (It might have been tolerable if they'd used the original Cell Block lyrics, but it would have been better if it was replaced by a Dennis song.)  
3. Endless Harmony (I'm okay with NFAP, I'm okay with Tears in the Morning, on some days I can just about stomach Disney Girls but this song is just too damn sappy.)
2. Summer of Love (This might have actually been improved by having Nancy Cartwright doing a Bart Simpson thing on it, it would take it from cringe worthy to nostalgia worthy.)
1. Transcendental Meditation (Ruins the vibe on the otherwise sublime Friends album.)
21  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Long Versions that are better than the shortened Versions on: July 05, 2012, 05:08:20 PM
Yes - Into the Lens. The short version is my nomination for sloppiest single edit of all time. Have a listen; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCjU7ZwqI4U
22  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: You're favorite Outtakes/Unreleased songs :) on: July 05, 2012, 05:05:31 PM
Pink Floyd - Millionaire. This would probably have appeared on their second album. It's a bit similar to Corporal Clegg.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bm2mvjKAvxo

The Who - Melancholia http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG1HJdEuCn0. Intended for the abandoned Who's For Tennis album which was to have been a stopgap release after Sell Out and before Tommy.  Some songs from the same period, Joys, Facts of Life and a studio version of their cover of Shakin' All Over have never circulated officially or unofficially.

Velvet Underground - Ocean Loaded sessions version, imo one of their most beautiful recordings, second only to Pale Blue Eyes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAcnyJxZcao

Yes' 1978 Tormato sessions outtakes - You Can Be Saved http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TNzPHoVlz8, Richard, Abilene http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2Bi_kbwIXs, Some Are Born http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2huFWTtkJ8 [a version of this with better vocals from Jon is on the bootleg Yes Digital Reels,] Countryside http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzc-nPd1U6Q and Celestial Seasons [available on the bootleg Digital Reels, this was an early version of On the Silent Wings of Freedom with alternate lyrics and a slightly different ending. Alan White refers to this during a film of Yes recording On The Silent Wings, "There's a few bits of magic that were on the original that just aren't there anymore." If Tormato featured these in place of some of what made the album it would have been far better.

Ween - The Argus Part II http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnCNYDLwJOs Too bad this didn't make it to the two disc collection of Quebec demos and outtakes collection given away to fans online last year, I think it's great.




23  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Has Anyone Else Heard Any Unrealeaed Albums/ Lost Materpieces Besides Smile? on: July 02, 2012, 10:13:20 PM
Lifehouse is easier to piece together with Pete's demos cause then you have access to all the songs penned for the project, if you use Who recordings you miss out on a few. If you get the two disc deluxe edition of Who's Next, Odds and Sods and Rarities vol 2 then you have the building blocks to try and make your own Who version of Lifehouse, for a Pete version you need the Lifehouse Chronicles box set which sadly is out of print. I would love to see a reissue that pairs down the bloated original 6 disc release to  the most important part, the two discs of demos.

In the mid 70's when the Who started Who Films LTD they wanted to make a film version of Lifehouse as one of their projects and Pete started revisiting and revising the storyline and adding more songs and some of these made it on to By Numbers and Who Are You. Lifehouse was slated to become the fourth major Who Films LTD project (after The Kids Are Alright, Quadrophenia and McVicar) with Nicolas Roeg directing but Nicolas was involved with Theresa Russell at the time, and Pete lusted after her. The three had planned to go see Pink Floyd live together but Nicolas couldn't make it and Pete took advantage and tried to convince Theresa to leave Nicolas for him. When Nicolas found out he was furious and left the project and no serious attempt was made to find another director to continue the project, Who Films LTD dissolved and Lifehouse was abandoned a second time.
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Non-surf/car songs to introduce someone to The Beach Boys? on: June 28, 2012, 07:03:20 PM
Party - You've Got to Hide Your Love Away
20/20 - Be With Me
M.I.U. - Pitter Patter
25  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Is Thatís Why God Made the Radio (the album) among their very best?! on: June 28, 2012, 03:33:39 PM
I agree with those that rank it somewhere in the middle. It's not a masterwork but I do think it's their best effort since Keepin' the Summer Alive.
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