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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian and Melinda adopt another son on: October 17, 2009, 11:57:35 PM
Oh hey, thanks thought police.
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Dennis and Charlie on: October 17, 2009, 10:54:37 PM
I heard Brian slept with Squeeky Fromme and, due to her small build, hid her behind his pillow on his bed. Marilyn was used to foul odors so she thought nothing of it.
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Time/Pitch shifting on: October 17, 2009, 09:53:54 PM
I've done this too with a few programs I"ve had over the years.  It is indeed fun and interesting to hear songs in their un-natural keys.  Playing with the speeds can be fun too, especially with slower songs.

I was just listening to Caroline No which we already know is bumped up a semitone and a bit faster. I was surprised at how positively girlish Brian's voice was when I popped it up a few semitones. Already a sweet vocal, of course, but his phrasing could be that of a girl's easily. IMO it was Murry's genius to suggest speeding that track up and raising the pitch, don't you think? I don't like the other as much.
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Time/Pitch shifting on: October 17, 2009, 09:35:01 PM
IMO the ONLY way to listen to BWPS is at 178.57% its original speed and seven (that is, 7) semitones higher.

feels good man
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Time/Pitch shifting on: October 17, 2009, 09:18:50 PM
I like listening to a lot of The Beach Boys' music and Brian's solo stuff through a nifty program I have to alter the time and pitch without losing much quality. It's really entertaining but also useful for studying the songs musically and otherwise. Songs take on a new life when you explore them from different speeds and pitches.

Anyone ever get into this? I'm not being silly, it's a lot of fun. Well, I guess I am being silly then, since it's fun, but I'm serious in asking about it.
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 43 Years ago today... on: October 17, 2009, 09:14:57 PM
Does anyone else immediate play the verse chords of GV when they near a piano? I can't help it. I'm in love with that progression.

Is this right? Ebm, Db, B, Bb

It has such a melancholy driftiness to it. As soon as the Bb appears it hypnotizes.

7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Smile voted 4th best album of the decade by Uncut Magazine on: October 17, 2009, 09:09:12 PM
I don't care for the opinion of people with foreskin.
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian and Melinda adopt another son on: October 17, 2009, 09:08:29 PM
Why do they adopt? I thought Melinda was only in her 30s, surely she can still create babies in her belly?
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Sean Lennon Interview on: October 17, 2009, 08:47:48 PM
I also remember Lennon asking Brian if he liked Kurt Cobain/Nirvana, but BW had never heard of them.

You gotta love the guy. I really mean it.

Maybe Brian's inner circle hid Nirvana from Brian. Who knows, perhaps hearing their music and seeing the charismatic Kurt Cobain may have awoken the inner grunging teenager in Brian. Can you imagine? Flannel shirts, ripped jeans, heroin, shotguns, collaborations with Courtney Love...

Where is the video to this interview? It sounds amazing, and I hate Sean Lennon. Smiley Smile, key modulations, Mrs O Leary's Cow, omfg, where is this thing? How can you guys have misplaced it? Find it, put it on YouTube. Right now. Go. Do it. Right now. Go. Do it. Sean Lennon, beaming with love? Does Sean just have a crush on Brian? He's gay right? That lisp...? Right?
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Is It Allowed... on: October 17, 2009, 08:41:03 PM
Purple Chick's Smile blows.

It's like a bad dream abruptly changing from 1966/1967 recordings to 2004 ones.

Fades are ten bajillion times better than links or whatever you would call them on BWPS done for a live performance.

Cabinessence without a fade is a ruined song.
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Interview on: October 17, 2009, 08:38:48 PM
Oh poo, I just read page 3, it's over already.

I wouldn't've stood for Brian racing through those questions. "Slow down, big man, you're not getting away that fast. Now, once again, when you sang about 'eating p*ssy' on Lei'd In Hawaii, what WERE you talking about?"
12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Interview on: October 17, 2009, 08:34:05 PM
Don't be intimidated by him and don't buy his methods of averting discussion. Prod him until he coughs up the answers. Say "Listen Brian, I don't give a fuk who you are, answer my goshdarn questions or you won't get this candy bar" (at this point wave candy bar in front of Elder Wilson).

But seriously, do that. Interviews get pushed around by Brian in a subtle way. Obviously don't ask or say anything that would upset, no need to be mean or insensitive, but it's lame that no one's ever done a good interview with him. You have to seem less of a fan and more of a friend. If you go in with stars in your eyes he won't give you sh*t. Treat him as if he's your mailman. Nice guy, you give him as much respect as any of your other universe brothers or sisters, but you don't grovel at his feet. Then he might open up more.

Ask him about whether he thinks Paul McCartney is dead. Ask "Did you ever meet Faul McCartney?" Tell him to check the album covers and carefully examine pre-late1966 Paul and post-1967 Faul.
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Anti 'Middle Of The Road' thread. on: October 17, 2009, 08:28:25 PM
I'd be happy to watch a secret recording. A video camera taped above Brian's piano. Him working on those Gershwin pieces. Fiddling about. Tinkering away. The occasional Ding Dang and Shortenin' Bread. Sandwich breaks. Prank calls to Mike Love. A Thousand Times better than the overproduced, sterile album will be.
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Dennis and Charlie on: October 17, 2009, 08:22:43 PM
I am of the opinion that most of it is intentionally suppressed by both The Beach Boys then (and now, if asked) and all their biographers like AGD here. The proof is pretty obvious if you have eyes to see.

Generally I think - not that I care one way or the other about the issue - that Dennis was good pals with Charlie before their relationship turned sour. Their relationship was strong enough for Dennis to offer Manson some free recording time at Brian's home studio set up and to record one of his songs for their album. Is Manson credited on that song? Did he ever receive profits for it before his trial (at which point, I believe, the profits from his own newly released album were decided to go to victims' families or something). I also think that Dennis probably hung out with Manson a lot when he could and was a bigger part of their scene than Beach Boy biographers will have us believe. Not that Dennis was important, mind you, to their group. He was one of many celebrities involved in that scene and he was also a good guy to lean on for money and other things. He gave Manson one of their gold records which he then used as incentive to let a ranch owner let Manson and friends stay there. Some will claim it was stolen - doubt it. It's more likely that Dennis offered it to him as a symbol of his non-attachment to such things, to please Charlie, who he clearly thought highly of.

And now the backlash. "Nope. Totally wrong. Blah blah..."

15  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / I'm leaving on: October 06, 2009, 01:41:02 PM
I Can Tell When I'm Not Wanted.

For Old Time's Sake:



Goodbye, Cruel World.
16  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Luther is an atheist on: October 06, 2009, 01:36:30 PM
Should I even ask what this is about, and why a member I'm trying my best to ignore (rather than heap abuse upon, as my natural instincts tell me to do) decided to post such a thread?

The Lord inspired me.
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Are there really that many similarities between SMiLE and Sgt. Pepper? on: October 06, 2009, 01:20:11 PM
I think Van Dyke is referring more to the mood of both creations rather than specific things the Beatles stole. I mean, I don't have his quote at hand, but that's what I'm assuming. Where's reverend Doe with his Bible of quotes to help us out?

I'd like to believe that there was a secret operation going on at the time. Maybe Derek Taylor playing double agent, stealing Brian's music and ideas and encoding them via telegram to the Beatles in cryptic brit-speak. The evidence just doesn't really add up too well overall. And Sgt. Pepper was their own trip ... I think they came to a similar place as Brian stylistically or wutevs but it was on a more superficial level. Reading things like the Michael Vosse interview about SMiLE shows that Brian wasn't just doing nifty studio tricks with catchy pop songs but really working on some fairly abstract stuff that was well beyond what the Beets were doing. Killer Tofu. AGD needs more allowance.

We've already been through all this in excruciating detail. Bottom line - as described in the book, impossible. No-one was in the right place at the right time until Pepper was being mixed. Van Dyke later revised his comment in a private conversation with a friend of mine, saying that the two albums were similar because they both had sound effects.

What if the Beatles had 1) the power of time-travel and 2) invisibility suits?

Here's my revised theory: Derek Taylor rings the Beatles who are in England. "Boys, I have some bad news. You've heard about this new album Brian Wilson is working on, right? Well, this merda is good, and I mean GOOD. I don't know how you can beat this..." This leaves the Beatles feeling destroyed. Paul cries, John beats his wife, George chants the mantra ombriansucksom-ombriansucksom, and Ringo drifts off into a magical land of talking trains. When all seemed to be lost, George Martin smugly struts into the room holding a folded piece of paper. "This," he says, "will solve all our problems." He unfolds the paper revealing an intricately designed time-machine of sorts, about 8ft high and six feet wide. Metal. Bolted doors. Computer panels on the inside. High-tech merda. The Beatles are confused. "This is the plan," says George. "We get in this thing, program it to the year 3237, find the nearest hardware shop, buy invisibility suits, get back in, set the year back to now, come back, then travel to the time when Brian began working on his new album, and in our invisibility suits we will take mental notes on the process and then come back and make the thing ourselves." Such a plan could not be refused. So, several nanoseconds later the Beatles and George Martin, in their invisibility suits, were in Brian's house hanging around the piano where he and Van Dyke were just beginning Heroes and Villains. Paul almost gave the game away while playing air piano when he knocked over a candle stick. Lucky, Brian explained to Van Dyke that far from being ordinary paranormal activity, this was the Spirit of Spector looming over their project. Phew. The rest is basically history. The Beatles and Martin returned and made Sgt. Pepper before Brian could finish his SMiLE, and they won, they beat him.

I'm thinking... this is an example of this 'humor' stuff ?

It'll never catch on.

It's OK to laugh, Andrew. No one will look at you funny.
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / 1970's Beach Boys Albums / Re: The Beach Boys In Concert on: October 06, 2009, 01:02:46 PM
You know ... I almost like "You Still Believe In Me" on here better than Pet Sounds.

Al's voice is AMAZING. Pretty much always, actually. Al never disappoints with his voice. He reminds me of Gram Parsons, that kind of voice here.
19  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Luther is an atheist on: October 06, 2009, 12:33:52 PM
You know you're just asking, nay, BEGGING for the banhammer to come down on your face again?

Wy? Just telling it like it is. Luther doesn't mind. And that ban lasted all but a few minutes by my reckoning of time. In fact, I wondered why it was lifted, since no one offered me an explanation as to why it was there in the first place. Oh well, I thought, they don't like me. I get banned from a lot of places, actually. I'm generally not well-liked on this planet.
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Are there really that many similarities between SMiLE and Sgt. Pepper? on: October 06, 2009, 12:30:04 PM
I think Van Dyke is referring more to the mood of both creations rather than specific things the Beatles stole. I mean, I don't have his quote at hand, but that's what I'm assuming. Where's reverend Doe with his Bible of quotes to help us out?

I'd like to believe that there was a secret operation going on at the time. Maybe Derek Taylor playing double agent, stealing Brian's music and ideas and encoding them via telegram to the Beatles in cryptic brit-speak. The evidence just doesn't really add up too well overall. And Sgt. Pepper was their own trip ... I think they came to a similar place as Brian stylistically or wutevs but it was on a more superficial level. Reading things like the Michael Vosse interview about SMiLE shows that Brian wasn't just doing nifty studio tricks with catchy pop songs but really working on some fairly abstract stuff that was well beyond what the Beets were doing. Killer Tofu. AGD needs more allowance.

We've already been through all this in excruciating detail. Bottom line - as described in the book, impossible. No-one was in the right place at the right time until Pepper was being mixed. Van Dyke later revised his comment in a private conversation with a friend of mine, saying that the two albums were similar because they both had sound effects.

What if the Beatles had 1) the power of time-travel and 2) invisibility suits?

Here's my revised theory: Derek Taylor rings the Beatles who are in England. "Boys, I have some bad news. You've heard about this new album Brian Wilson is working on, right? Well, this sh*t is good, and I mean GOOD. I don't know how you can beat this..." This leaves the Beatles feeling destroyed. Paul cries, John beats his wife, George chants the mantra ombriansucksom-ombriansucksom, and Ringo drifts off into a magical land of talking trains. When all seemed to be lost, George Martin smugly struts into the room holding a folded piece of paper. "This," he says, "will solve all our problems." He unfolds the paper revealing an intricately designed time-machine of sorts, about 8ft high and six feet wide. Metal. Bolted doors. Computer panels on the inside. High-tech sh*t. The Beatles are confused. "This is the plan," says George. "We get in this thing, program it to the year 3237, find the nearest hardware shop, buy invisibility suits, get back in, set the year back to now, come back, then travel to the time when Brian began working on his new album, and in our invisibility suits we will take mental notes on the process and then come back and make the thing ourselves." Such a plan could not be refused. So, several nanoseconds later the Beatles and George Martin, in their invisibility suits, were in Brian's house hanging around the piano where he and Van Dyke were just beginning Heroes and Villains. Paul almost gave the game away while playing air piano when he knocked over a candle stick. Lucky, Brian explained to Van Dyke that far from being ordinary paranormal activity, this was the Spirit of Spector looming over their project. Phew. The rest is basically history. The Beatles and Martin returned and made Sgt. Pepper before Brian could finish his SMiLE, and they won, they beat him.
21  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Luther is an atheist on: October 06, 2009, 12:18:53 PM
Burn the unbelievers.

22  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Great Letters on: October 06, 2009, 12:17:58 PM
Like the snow that ends up on the side of the road?



No, like the kind which glitters in the eyes of children on Christmas morning as they peak through the curtains, revealing the snowy expanse of the front lawn.

I am very pure though. I'm really not into sex or other meat pleasures.
23  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Dark Retreat on: October 06, 2009, 12:15:41 PM
I used to need to turn my bedroom into what you call a "dark retreat" in order to go to sleep at night. College, though, led me to frequently not getting to bed until the daylight hours, so I eventually got used to it. At first I would need to sleep with a pillow over my head. I've found, though, that if I'm tired enough, I can fall asleep anywhere. I've fallen asleep standing up next to a speaker at a concert before.

narcolepsy is a bitch
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love In Real Love on: October 06, 2009, 12:14:34 PM
I bet Donovan ruined that whole trip with his guitar. What a goofy human being he is. Hey Donovan, tell us the story about John meditating again. Pleeeeeeeease.

What's wrong with Donovan?

He belongs to a soon-to-be-extinct race of Elves who delight in stealing change out of the purses and pocket books of old ladies.
25  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What did the Wrecking Crew think of Brian's way of recording? on: October 06, 2009, 12:12:03 PM
well it's not me, although he sounds like a fun gy
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