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26  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Secrets of Producing Like Brian Wilson on: August 21, 2013, 09:26:03 PM
This stuff is like porn to me. Please don't stop. Moan.
 

Same.
27  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Only with You (1972) preview from MSN on: August 21, 2013, 09:04:30 PM
I have melt and gone to heaven.
28  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 'Where is she?' just played on BBC radio 2! on: August 20, 2013, 05:36:05 PM
Having listened to this track about 30+ times ( Shocked) my impression hasn't changed much. I love the vocals from Brian. I loved the opening line and when it's repeated in harmony... but the lyrics are pretty abysmal as it goes on. Definitely a WIP.  LOL

Lyrics are grossly overrated.

Can you provide a reference for where / by whom they're overrated please? Haven't seen this track reviewed before this thread appeared. Thanks in advance

I was not talking about this track. I was talking about lyrics to songs in general. I don't find lyrics to make or break a song. Production, melody, arrangement, and vocals are what I use to determine a good track. Lyrics are the lowest on the totem pole. He could have been singing about candy corn and I'd still think his voice was fantastic.

You don't need to be offended in this instance. You just need to use better comprehension. I'd get your sarcastic complaint if I said, "The lyrics are grossly overrated."

Other musings by me that would warrant your being up in arms:

"This song's lyrics suck."

"I can't stand this song based solely on the lyrics."

"Did Mike Love write these awful lyrics?"

"I don't get anyone who would like this song because these lyrics are dreadful."

"This song should have stayed in the vaults, these lyrics are pathetic."

But I never said any of it. Thanks...
29  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 'Where is she?' just played on BBC radio 2! on: August 20, 2013, 04:06:45 PM
Having listened to this track about 30+ times ( Shocked) my impression hasn't changed much. I love the vocals from Brian. I loved the opening line and when it's repeated in harmony... but the lyrics are pretty abysmal as it goes on. Definitely a WIP.  LOL

Lyrics are grossly overrated.

Brand new tracks, never before heard, and released in the middle of a near orgasmic frenzy to hear new stuff, tend to be overrated too.  LOL

Agreed. The only thing that hit me was his voice. Sounds sooo good.
30  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Beatles *sigh* on: August 20, 2013, 03:53:03 PM
God...to have seen them live back then must have been incredible. That photo gave me goosebumps for some reason.

Eh you probably wouldn't have been able to have heard yourself think given their audience.  If you are talking about experiencing the mania aspect of it all, then yes I'm sure it would have been an incredible experience.  However more times than not Beatles live performances were lousy.  There are some exceptions but especially on the big tours of America for example, the insanely large crowds they played to, the fact that technology hadn't advanced so that they themselves could hear what they were playing and the fact by the end of their touring years they themselves didn't really want to be onstage anyhow more times than not made for some lousy performances. 
The clips I've seen from Shea on You Tube were ace. But yeah I meant being there with all that energy. At the start of this thread I mocked Beatlemania yet now I get it fully.

Welcome to the dark side. You will now enjoy conversing with many Beatles fans but there is always the backlash from those who when you bring them up will roll their eyes and proceed to tell you why they aren't that good.
31  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 'Where is she?' just played on BBC radio 2! on: August 20, 2013, 03:43:38 PM
Having listened to this track about 30+ times ( Shocked) my impression hasn't changed much. I love the vocals from Brian. I loved the opening line and when it's repeated in harmony... but the lyrics are pretty abysmal as it goes on. Definitely a WIP.  LOL

Lyrics are grossly overrated.
32  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: MIC Price Discussion Thread. on: August 20, 2013, 09:17:08 AM
Yeah, me too. So I broke down and ordered it, not having seen it advertised less anywhere. Total with shipping came to $108.48

Of course if the rumoured Best Buy deal comes thru( with the bonus Live CD) then I'll be forced to own two copies right from the start....

Anyone heard anything about the "rumoured Best Buy deal"?

Amen. I am very intrigued and I'd definitely buy it from there for a little higher price if that happened.
33  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike on Mick...Jealous? Because I sing better? Get more chicks? on: August 20, 2013, 09:15:07 AM
Mike Love genuinely acted gay throughout much of his performing career, particularly in 1976. Kind of uncomfortable to watch him go limp-wristed, hand-on-hip in his ass-huggingly tight pants. Not sure what he was thinking. Mick never gave off gay vibes, despite his mincing stage presence.

So it's a bad thing to give off gay vibes? It makes you "uncomfortable"? Mick is better because he has never given off gay vibes? Is this in any way an appropriate comment?
I always thought Mick was Bi-sexual, at least as of the early 70s. Though, I also understood that what he did on stage was an act. Also, why is it that because Gay people have come out of the closet, that every single person is supposed to just welcome them, no questions asked? There was a reason why they were in the closet and many of those reasons are still alive. Like everything, it takes time for total acceptance. There are going to be people who are uncomfortable with homosexuality. There are some who will never accept it. It is human nature.

LOL Just a bit of a knee-jerk reaction. Where did anyone say every single person should accept them? No one should ever think that. There will always be people who are obtuse.
34  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike on Mick...Jealous? Because I sing better? Get more chicks? on: August 18, 2013, 07:35:50 AM
I sincerely doubt that Mike had more chicks than Mick Jagger. LOL Or that there ever was a moment in time when Mike was a better singer.

Way incorrect. Mike's easily a better singer. All those lines he had in the harmony stack. Sorry, but he did a lot of tough singing down low and was perfect. His range and ability is much larger than Jagger's.
35  Smiley Smile Stuff / Polls / Re: Beach Boys Survivor #1: Surfin' Safari on: August 17, 2013, 08:35:02 PM
Ten Little Indians. I don't know what it is, I just don't like it. I tried to like it but to no avail.
36  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian with Jeff Beck Fall Tour Dates on: August 05, 2013, 08:11:39 AM
St. Augustine!!! YES!! I'm literally jumping for JOY!
37  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Beatles *sigh* on: July 27, 2013, 05:21:22 PM
Sgt. Pepper takes quite a bit of listens to "get" if you know what I mean. It grows on you, but hey, it definitely doesn't grow on everyone. I can pretty well do without When I'm 64 and Within You Without You (the better of the two, but a little too long in duration IMHO).
Not sure how many people are aware of this, but When I'm 64 was deliberately put right after Within You Without You because the two songs are polar opposites. Side 2 opens with this mystical, dead-serious philosophical and exotic song, which is immediately followed by one of McCartney's "schmaltzy" songs. IMO it works great - the contrast and change in mood could not have been more drastic.

Personally I like When I'm 64, yes it's schmaltzy but in a good, catchy way. I particularly like the harmonies and woodwinds in the line, "You'll be older too." That and a couple other lines make the song a bit more than a standard schmaltzy tune.

I can definitely see them doing that for a point such as that. I don't think either are bad songs. When I'm 64 is definitely catchy, but there is just something about it, I don't know. If I listen to the album straight through, I don't skip either song. I guess in terms of the rest of the album, they are my "least" favorite and even though I say I can do without it, I pretty well always sit through all of Within You Without You and get into it. The 5+ minutes is a bit much, that was my only quibble. I'm a big fan of George's love for the Sitar (the droning sound in WYWY is great) and the sounds he used that were influenced by India all the way through The Inner Light.
38  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Beatles *sigh* on: July 25, 2013, 07:45:02 PM
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That being said I envy people such as our Global Moderator who are just getting into the band as there are many beautiful discoveries to be found within their catalog.  They are in no way shape or form overrated and their legacy has not been blown out of proportion due to the simple reason that even if you don't care for how the public views their catalog, it's very hard to knock the catalog itself in any way, shape or form.

Man...you're  not kidding about what it's like for a neophyte. I kind of 'cheated' and skipped ahead. Two things...right now, I'm not that crazy about Sgt Pepper. But...Revolver is fucking incredible. I'm going to go back, though, and go in order.

Sgt. Pepper takes quite a bit of listens to "get" if you know what I mean. It grows on you, but hey, it definitely doesn't grow on everyone. I can pretty well do without When I'm 64 and Within You Without You (the better of the two, but a little too long in duration IMHO).
39  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Celebrate The News on: July 20, 2013, 06:26:56 PM
I absolutely love this track. Interesting note, my father who is a fan of their early car songs heard this not too long ago while riding with me in the car. At the end of it, he questioned who it was and I said the Beach Boys and he was surprised and said it was good.
40  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Child Of Winter on: July 13, 2013, 06:30:02 PM
My posting history on this board spans a pretty developmental period of my life, from ages 18 to 25 (26 next week). There are a lot of things that have happened in my personal life that have really changed me as a person. Whenever somebody posts in an old thread like this, and I see a vintage Aegir post, it always make me feel really weird. My music taste has really changed a lot too. Until about four years ago, I disliked most modern music. If you had told me in 2007 that I would be a really big Strokes fan, for instance, I would have laughed. Child of Winter is such an awesome song and I cannot see why used to think otherwise.

Going from 18-25 is arguably the biggest change in a person's life, especially mentally and emotionally. I'm 30 now and when I was 18, I really didn't care for any music at all. I never found anything relevant to me as a person. It wasn't until college that I started to actually pursue it, even though the seeds were planted in high school as I was in chorus my full tenure. Now, I can't see myself without music, in pretty much any form or genre. I was also in the same boat as you as I never would have thought I'd get into modern music, but that has changed completely.

Case in point, my shuffle went from Back in My Arms Again by The Supremes to What I've Done by Linkin Park while I was typing this. I love it when it does that.
41  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Rolling Stones *sigh* on: July 13, 2013, 05:35:07 PM
I do think they are overrated in terms of the absolute drooling they get left and right at every turn especially for their output in the '70s. But saying that, I really love pretty much all of what they released from 1964-1968.

I know it is just one person who has brought it up, but I really like Lady Jane. The harpsichord is beautiful. I'm also a fan of Their Satanic Majesties Request, I wouldn't skip it. Sure it is a rip off of Sgt. Peppers in terms of production, theme, etc, but it still stands on some of its own merit. It's much better in mono also. Citadel is a favorite of mine, but do not like the nearly 9 minute long Sing This All Together.

Their singles from It's All Over Now until Honky Tonk Women are pretty well one stellar song after another.
42  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: MIKE LOVE WANTS BRIAN WILSON BACK IN THE BEACH BOYS on: July 08, 2013, 04:48:09 PM
Here we go. LOL
43  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Beatles *sigh* on: July 08, 2013, 08:42:54 AM
Just as a small fact check -- I don't believe Paperback Writer/Rain was a double A side. One of the few from the period that wasn't.

You are right, my fault. Rain was the B side. I got a tad carried away. Grin
44  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Beatles *sigh* on: July 08, 2013, 08:24:21 AM
I Saw Her Standing There is what got me into the Beatles. That definitely got my interest going. I'm not a huge fan of their early songs/albums (Please Please Me, With the Beatles), but when you get into A Hard Day's Night, it really changes things. My favorite part of the Beatles' catalog is when they started incorporating folk into their songs. A Hard Day's Night doesn't have a weak song on it, IMHO. Beatles for Sale, IMHO, is a step backward. I Feel Fine is a good single that preceded Beatles for Sale. No Reply, I'm a Loser, I'll Follow the Sun, Eight Days a Week, and Every Little Thing are the best off of that album to me.

Help! was them picking back up from A Hard Day's Night. There are a couple clunkers on Help! but, it's overall more consistent than Beatles for Sale. They start using more folk elements again. Help!, Ticket to Ride, You've Got to Hide Your Love Away, I've Just Seen a Face, and Yesterday are highlights for me. This is also when Paul got his Epiphone Casino (played on Another Girl and Ticket to Ride). He then used it all over Rubber Soul. That bright sound is so fantastic to hear. Day Tripper and We Can Work It Out were a double A-sided single that preceded Rubber Soul. The only song I'm not a fan of on Rubber Soul is What Goes On. Other than the fantastic finger picking by George, it's just giving Ringo a song to sing. Some don't like Run for Your Life, but it doesn't bother me. Drive My Car is cool. Norwegian Wood, Nowhere Man, Girl, I'm Looking Through You, In My Life, and If I Needed Someone are my favorites.

They pretty well dropped the folk sound for Revolver. John and George got 1965 Epiphone Casino's for Revolver after loving Paul's sound on Rubber Soul. Paperback Writer and Rain were a double A-sided single preceding the album. Rain is really fantastic to me. Paul's melodic bass playing is awesome and I enjoy Ringo's drumming. Other than Doctor Robert and Yellow Submarine, the rest of Revolver is great. From there, you get into Strawberry Fields Forever/Penny Lane and head on into Sgt. Pepper's, through Magical Mystery Tour, the White Album, Yellow Submarine soundtrack, and on into the sunset with Abbey Road/Let It Be.

Run For Your Life is awesome! One of my favourite on Rubber Soul, in fact.


I like it also! John, as always, sings it so well. I was talking about from a lyrical standpoint. The music is great.
45  Smiley Smile Stuff / Concert Reviews / Re: Beach Boys-Hyde Park July 7th 2013 on: July 07, 2013, 08:13:28 PM
OMG, this is what we are getting instead of "Carry Me Home"?   Wall

I'm sure they did and could find others, including Carry me Home, but all estates/members have to vote on it, correct? This one has "beach" in it, so it was probably one of Mike's few "yes" votes.
46  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Beatles *sigh* on: July 07, 2013, 06:30:04 PM
I Saw Her Standing There is what got me into the Beatles. That definitely got my interest going. I'm not a huge fan of their early songs/albums (Please Please Me, With the Beatles), but when you get into A Hard Day's Night, it really changes things. My favorite part of the Beatles' catalog is when they started incorporating folk into their songs. A Hard Day's Night doesn't have a weak song on it, IMHO. Beatles for Sale, IMHO, is a step backward. I Feel Fine is a good single that preceded Beatles for Sale. No Reply, I'm a Loser, I'll Follow the Sun, Eight Days a Week, and Every Little Thing are the best off of that album to me.

Help! was them picking back up from A Hard Day's Night. There are a couple clunkers on Help! but, it's overall more consistent than Beatles for Sale. They start using more folk elements again. Help!, Ticket to Ride, You've Got to Hide Your Love Away, I've Just Seen a Face, and Yesterday are highlights for me. This is also when Paul got his Epiphone Casino (played on Another Girl and Ticket to Ride). He then used it all over Rubber Soul. That bright sound is so fantastic to hear. Day Tripper and We Can Work It Out were a double A-sided single that preceded Rubber Soul. The only song I'm not a fan of on Rubber Soul is What Goes On. Other than the fantastic finger picking by George, it's just giving Ringo a song to sing. Some don't like Run for Your Life, but it doesn't bother me. Drive My Car is cool. Norwegian Wood, Nowhere Man, Girl, I'm Looking Through You, In My Life, and If I Needed Someone are my favorites.

They pretty well dropped the folk sound for Revolver. John and George got 1965 Epiphone Casino's for Revolver after loving Paul's sound on Rubber Soul. Paperback Writer and Rain were a double A-sided single preceding the album. Rain is really fantastic to me. Paul's melodic bass playing is awesome and I enjoy Ringo's drumming. Other than Doctor Robert and Yellow Submarine, the rest of Revolver is great. From there, you get into Strawberry Fields Forever/Penny Lane and head on into Sgt. Pepper's, through Magical Mystery Tour, the White Album, Yellow Submarine soundtrack, and on into the sunset with Abbey Road/Let It Be.
47  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Jardine challenges Love to battle of the bands in explosive interview... on: June 25, 2013, 01:58:05 PM
First off, I still feel as though Mike Love had the right to do whatever he wanted. Do I think it sucks that he didn't wanna continue working with Brian and Al?? Surely. Do I think he's kind of an asshole? Surely.

But here's the other thing. I don't know how the license is renewed or how they deal with it, but as of now Mike Love and Bruce Johnston are still out there touring as The Beach Boys while it seems Brian Wilson and Al Jardine haven't done anything to stop them. Maybe behind the scenes they are, but I'm not sure about that.

Lotta dead bands and musicians keep releasing albums.

Andrew, do you really think it would be sensible to release a Beach Boys album of brand new songs if the group has broken up? Would that behoove either the group or Capitol to do that?

Also, why are you insuating that The Beach Boys are a "dead band"? Aren't they touring this summer? You protested that point a few weeks ago. Mike and Bruce are The Beach Boys, right? Or do you only pull that card out when it suits you?

And also, since you are really good at ignoring posts that make you look like an asshole, I doubt you'll answer this one. But here goes anyways:

DO YOU QUESTION THE VERACITY OF JON STEBBINS REPORTING THAT THE GROUP WAS OFFERED A SECOND NEW ALBUM BY CAPITOL BUT THAT MIKE LOVE TORPEDOED IT?

It's obvious that AGD would believe that Stebbins is part of the "more infantile, less knowledgeable."
48  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 3 (Potential) Brian Wilson LPs on: June 20, 2013, 12:33:36 PM
3 albums - not ONE for the Beach Boys? what a drag...
We're just going to have to come to the realization that other than the 50th anniversary, it's not going to happen again. That is my stance and I hate to take it because I want these albums to be BB albums with Mike and Bruce involved, but if both parties or one party isn't going to agree, then this is how it is going to have to be. If having Al and David on the albums with Brian is the closest we can get to the BB sound, then that'll have to be it. I just hope it's good and that JT doesn't mess the vocals up. Mike and Bruce can continue playing Barbara Ann and Kokomo until their faces turn blue. I also hate saying that, but this is apparently what it has come down to.
49  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Announcing Beach Boys RSD 2013 Releases on: June 16, 2013, 08:31:57 PM
Ban the OP. LOL
50  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New \ on: May 30, 2013, 06:07:31 PM
Hopefully, this is good news!! It's nice to see them in there again.
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