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51  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New Beach Boys release will make you 'SMiLE' on: February 28, 2011, 12:46:28 PM
I'd display the Courbet over my fireplace.   That "art lover" is a bit of a prude.  It's a place from whence we've all come, literally and figuratively. 
52  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: XTC aka The Dukes Of Stratoshear on: January 04, 2011, 09:36:56 AM
It is fantastic!  Pale and Precious is certainly in the top few BW tributes out there.  It actually manages to capture the musical essence of Pet Sounds, no small feat.

Another fine ode to psychedilia is Andrew Gold's Greetings from Planet Love by the Fraternal Order of the All.  He hits the sounds of Beatles, Left Banke, Beach Boys, Byrds, Doors and others.
53  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Fan Mix of \ on: December 17, 2010, 07:49:22 AM
I agree that the Hawthorne version is the best.   It could have been the centerpiece of an album rather than a relatively obscure single.  At least it was a minor hit in a time where even minor hits were rare!
54  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Spanish Guitar/Secret Smile \ on: February 27, 2010, 08:35:33 PM
This heated discussion is really warming the cockles of my heart.

Thanks for keeping it professional...and very entertaining!
55  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Your personal SMiLE mix on: February 27, 2010, 08:24:06 PM
Vegetables as earth never worked for me.  The elements were apparently supposed to be instrumental in nature.  Vegetables may have been the initial earth element  but Brian apparently decided to make non lyrical representations of the elements.  Singing about fire couldn't possibly approach the intensity of the actual fire element.  Vegatables did show up in Holmes' artwork as an element due to time constraints from the label but he had a different earth element which morphed into Fall Breaks.  Wind Chimes is also not an element as he had a piano piece which served as such but was never apparently finished and not present on tape.  Dada, which never really fit the bill as an element, has been stated under good authority to be the water element, doesn't really fit the bill either.  The water chant, aka Dada part 1, was the start of the element but was not finished during the smile sessions, and subsequently evolved into Cool, Cool Water, which is certainly not a true elemental track.  Brian had something else in mind.  The best possible candidate is Diamond Head, but that suffers as an element from having several different composers and not being recorded until 1968. 

Nothing is as it seems in the scheme of SMiLE.
56  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: CIFOTM 'pregnant' intro on: February 27, 2010, 08:11:24 PM
Absolutely brilliant interpretation, Buddhahat!  Whether or not it was intended isn't important.  Musically, it's there and it simply magnifies the importance of the tune.
57  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Nirvana Vs The Beach Boys - Smells Like Sloop John B. on: February 27, 2010, 08:06:22 PM
"Smells Like Teen Spirit" is one of the best rock and roll songs of the last twenty years - in my opinion, of course. -SJS

It's pretty much a fact.  I really wish more Smiley Smilers would keep semi current on music.  If you missed the entire wave of grunge, then what else has been missed?  Grunge died rather quickly, but burned brightly for a few years.  Post grunge on the other hand...give me a barf bag.
58  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Classic Seletcted By BW on: February 24, 2010, 07:49:21 AM
I haven't made up my mind yet on the new remaster of Time to Get Alone vs. the version on Classics.  I stick by Hawthorne as being definitive not just because of the wonderful fade but the horn break as well.  It's so much cleaner than the 20/20 or box set versions.  Why it wasn't used on Friends I find absolutely baffling.  Friends was such a short album in length that nothing need be dropped to accomodate it.
59  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Shock At The Local Drug Store... on: February 24, 2010, 07:22:57 AM
I've recently heard Surf's Up, Your Imagination and Pet Sounds at the grocery store.  I'm always taken aback by out of the way BB songs.
60  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Your personal SMiLE mix on: February 18, 2010, 07:34:49 AM
Thanks to TheLazenby and BJL for clearing up some issues.  The funny thing is, I should have a couple of the items.  Perhaps they aren't named correctly on the downloads I have, er the downloads which I could be in possession of if I were such an unscrupulous character.
61  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Your personal SMiLE mix on: February 17, 2010, 03:25:42 PM
Where does one find such elusive gems like Rock With Me Henry, Little Red Book, Tones (the actual Tones.  I've heard Holidays listed as Tones), and Indian Wisdom?  I've never located them, not that I'd try any illegitimate releases.  Also, I'm still a little unclear on what constitutes False Barnyard and Fade to Vegetables.  Any insight would be most appreciated.
62  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Classic Seletcted By BW on: February 16, 2010, 05:42:47 AM
I'm perplexed by the versions of two songs.  Why use the inferior Wonderful?  The true version had already been released on the Box Set.  The superior Time to Get Alone had been released on Hawthorne as well.  The overall sound is still excellent on the comp.  A California Feeling with Beach Boy backing vocals would have been nice but I don't know if that would have been feasible.
63  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Who Lifehouse mixes on: February 15, 2010, 12:58:30 PM
Does anyone have any song lists of Lifehouse that they'd like to share?  I have a Who only mix but will likely make one with Pete's solo work included.
64  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: BWPS - The Final Verdict on: February 12, 2010, 11:36:57 AM
It brought the SMiLE legend to fruition.  It certainly isn't all it could have been but a fine effort nonetheless.  It's a bit cheesy in spots (esp. On a Holiday) but even the cheesy parts are endearing.  I was disappointed that Brian didn't put in the effort for a true elements suite but what he and Darian and the gang gaves us was a very reasonable facsimile.  A-
65  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Smile mixes with non-smile tracks on: February 11, 2010, 07:55:32 AM
I was using Time to Get Alone right after I'm in Great Shape.  It fits lyrically but not musically so I've dropped it.  I use an edit of Can't Wait Too Long with an early take of With Me Tonight and slip in the snippet of Bachrach's Walk on By.  I use Diamond Head for the elements.  It works much better than Love to Say Dada.  Fall Breaks is my earth element.  I also use Little Pad & Cool, Cool Water.  I've gone back and forth with the single and the album version of CCW.  Old Man River is used in my Americana suite.
66  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Overrated BB's Related Songs on: February 10, 2010, 07:54:00 AM
I agree with Sheriff on "Meant for You" being a closer.  "Lonely Days" would have been another good snippet closer.

1. Roller Skating Child--makes me want to hurl
2. Honkin' Down the Highway--embarrassing
3. A Day in the Life of a Tree--dreadful
4. Solar System--childish, and not in a good way
5. Disney Girls--way out of place
6. Amusement Parks USA--has its moments but the time for this music had passed
7. I Wanna Pick You Up--disturbing
8. Hey Little Tomboy--equally disturbing
9. Johnny Carson--what the?
10. Tears in the Morning--annoying vocals


I hit Love You pretty hard.  Outside of a few tracks, it just plain stinks!

 
67  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: can be the village green preservation society album the pet sound of the kinks? on: November 11, 2009, 01:55:23 PM
This is one of the finer ablums of the 60's.  It has a fair amount in common with Pet Sounds, Sgt. Pepper and a host of other 1967 concept albums.  Village Green manages to be fresh and new, utilizing influences but maintaining a fair amount of originality.  It's more playful than most '68 albums. Many critics maintain that it's the Kinks finest hour.  I give that title to Arthur but Village Green is amongst the better concept albums.  It doesn't scream Pet Sounds to my ears but it is an underrated album that many BB fans will dig.
68  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Tori Amos on: November 11, 2009, 01:34:26 PM
Some men dig Tori.  I'm not way into all of her albums but do own most.  Personally, I feel Little Earthquakes is the finest piano based album ever and one of the top 3 albums by a female solo artist.  It's among my favorites of all time and is about gorgeous and melancholy as an album can get without being cheesy or bleak.  Highest recommendation.
69  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: \ on: November 11, 2009, 01:26:50 PM
It's incredible how much press the Beatles get and every board I've seen is just boring "I love that song" crap.  Plenty of quality books are out there but no one's saying much intelligent about the Beatles in cyberspace.  There are most certainly enough educated Beatle fans on this board to support a Beatleboard.
70  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Fleet Foxes??? on: November 11, 2009, 12:49:56 PM
I'm a bit perplexed at how some can say Fleet Foxes are just okay.  I feel that they are among the best out there.  Some others are Muse and the Dresden Dolls, but that's another story.  Both the album and EP are truly extraordinary!  The "Winter Beach Boys" moniker is quite accurate.  To me, they put post Holland BB's to shame.  I guess I have to check out more CSN.  I only know the hits.
71  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Wild Honey Sound Quality/Releases on: November 04, 2009, 01:20:27 PM
The disc sounds fantastic on a mediocre car cd player and a cheap, run down, barely working boom box which is about 8 years old.  It certainly doesn't have HDCD capabilities.  I am beginning to think my first disc is defective.
72  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Wild Honey Sound Quality/Releases on: October 26, 2009, 01:31:36 PM
The clarity of Let the Wind Blow is equivalent to the Hawthorne stereo version.  I feel like I've been listening to my stereo with saran wrap over the speakers for years and then this Argentinian version removes the wrap.  The Smiley Smile & bonus tracks tracks also sound much clearer though not to the extent of the Wild Honey tracks.

Correction-the comments are from Mark Linett from 2000.  The remastering page in the booklet is exactly the same.

I was hoping to get the twofer remastered again as well but the version I now have satisfies me as far as mono versions go, but I'd sure like to have a stereo version.
73  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Wild Honey Sound Quality/Releases on: October 26, 2009, 06:52:18 AM
I read that the 2001 twofer of SS/Wild Honey had superior sound, as opposed to the original 1990 release.  It always seemed very muddy and hissy to me.  Perhaps I had a low quality disc.  I went trolling online and got a release from Argentina.  The difference in quality is astounding!  It's like hearing Wild Honey for the first time.  Is this normal for a release to differ so greatly between countries?  Both bear the exact same barcode and Capital numbers.  They both have HDCD 24 bit remastering.  The Argentinian disc only bears the year 1990, but has David Leaf's comments from 2000.  The American disc bears both 1990 and 2001.  It's a bit perplexing how they could sound so different.  The Agentinian disc is so much clearer and myriad details show themselves for the first time.
74  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Because lists are cool: your favorite song on each album? on: October 06, 2009, 07:50:26 AM
Surfin' Safari - Surfin' Safari
Surfin' USA - Surfin' USA
Surfer Girl - In My Room
Shut Down Vol. 2 - Don't Worry, Baby
All Summer Long - I Get Around
Today - Please Let Me Wonder
Summer Days - Girl, Don't Tell Me
Pet Sounds - God Only Knows
Smile - Surf's Up
Smiley Smile - Good Vibrations
Wild Honey - Let the Wind Blow
Friends - Friends
20/20 - Time to Get Alone
Sunflower - Forever
Surf's Up - Til I Die
So Tough - Marcella
Holland - (On My Way to Sunny) California
15 Big Ones - It's OK
Love You - The Night was So Young
MIU - Come Go With Me
LA - Good Timin'
KTSA - Endless Harmony
BB 85 - Getcha Back
Still Cruisin' - Kokomo
75  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: beach boys can be considered better than beatles? on: October 05, 2009, 02:44:53 PM
As a vocal group, the Beach Boys reign supreme.  As a group, I'd definitely give it to the Beatles.  Three talented songwriters lead the group into many different directions but remain cohesive.  Looking at the best 20 singles from either band, it's a close call but looking album to album, the Beatles easily surpass the Boys.  It certainly helps that the Beatles called it quits while at the top of their game.  

The Beatles recorded very little filler and what they did record was at least very interesting filler.  The White Album is the ultimate composite of individual talent and Abbey Road is that of group talent.  There's filler on both but it enhances the albums rather than detract from them.

The voices in the Beatles are distinct.  Much of the Boys output leaves one guessing who is singing, which is an advantage in harmonizing.  That isn't a weakness but the Beatles have much stronger leads and headier lyrics, on the whole.  The emotional element, however does tend to favor the Boys.  It certainly does come down to a matter of taste.  The consistency and the album strength of the Beatles put them ahead in my book.



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