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126  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: What's their Story? on: February 21, 2006, 07:36:52 PM
I completely disagree with that poor Macca overview.
127  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Misfits fans out there? on: February 21, 2006, 07:34:29 PM
Oh man, your review thread was indeed tits.
128  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The return of the "What are you listening to now?" thread on: February 21, 2006, 06:24:57 PM
Black Sabbath "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath" and now "Sabotage"
129  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: "Free as a Bird" and "Real Love" on: February 21, 2006, 12:36:28 PM
Thanks, Chance, that remix is tits!
130  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Weezers Pinkerton on: February 20, 2006, 08:30:40 PM
"I should have no feeling, 'cause feeling is pain."
131  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: "Free as a Bird" and "Real Love" on: February 20, 2006, 08:26:25 PM
Join us.
132  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Weezers Pinkerton on: February 20, 2006, 08:19:59 PM
You know it. I was chatting on AIM the other night with the girl I currently... (don't even have the right word) "work" with, and I told her my tombstone should say "Dave Beckner, Sensitive Asshole." It was a joke but I think it's true.

You know, in the first pages of this thread, I pretty much laid it all out. "Pinkerton" is a heavy trip for me musically-- there's a rich tapestry of love and failure imbedded into those songs for me, each song's words overlayed with darker personal memories of love and life lost. This past year has been by and large "The Good Life" all in all-- I'm on my own finally and yet I sit in my basement most nights chatting up electronic pals. Who's fault is that?  Mine all mine-- A few months ago, at a trendy Baltimore dance club that I was dragged to, the djs cued up "The Good Life" and suddenly the song was the moment as I felt as one with the rest of the cavorting masses.

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(Beckner: You know I don't really think you're an asshole, right? That was said strictly in the interest of bad taste.)

No I was writing the above. I know I am an asshole. Only an asshole buys the VU boxset and hates it.
133  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Weezers Pinkerton on: February 20, 2006, 08:04:38 PM
It was a jovial "asshat calling" posted before the "foda off" came about. Directed at all of us. Because what's the Weezer fan stereotype? This fucking lame damn thread!
134  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Weezers Pinkerton on: February 20, 2006, 07:55:16 PM
Serious. And I was typing that while H was telling us (you guys, not me really) to "foda off."
135  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Beatles people: Ticket to Ride info on: February 20, 2006, 07:53:23 PM
Yeah, I should probably get on that. I wrongly assumed Chronicles was an expanded Sessions.
136  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Weezers Pinkerton on: February 20, 2006, 07:51:18 PM
Well and I was worried my kissoff had gone too far.
137  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Weezers Pinkerton on: February 20, 2006, 07:50:25 PM
I think you are all asshats. Seriously. And all of us are the stereotypical Weezer fan- bitch. If this isn't sefl fulfilling prophecy, I don't know what is.

I'm glad I spent the evening watching the hilarious drivel that is "Saving Silverman."


I think Rivers has made a deliberate point for each album to be and sound different from the last. That's in part where the Missing Years went... looking for the next sound and when he found it, it was *simpler* than the album before it. (*Simpler* in that there's no pretentious songs with "butterfly" metaphors or "Pink triangles" or "shaven heads" etc.)

And you can't relax long enough to listen to and enjoy "Maladroit" because it's simply fun and the production is great and the playing is great, shutup and go listen to your 47 takes of "Good Vibrations" for pleasure.
138  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Weezers Pinkerton on: February 20, 2006, 05:15:06 PM
For me, Ian, two mutually exclusive events. I knew of weezer slightly from even before my Beatles days, and then after I embraced them as one of a few poppy bands that were around. (I wasn't too hip to much else in 1995.)

The Beach Boys fandom didn't come around until 2000.
139  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Weezers Pinkerton on: February 20, 2006, 05:05:02 PM
Yeah, I don't think you can truly have a love/ hate relationship with Weezer unless you were around for "the wait."
140  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Weezers Pinkerton on: February 20, 2006, 04:31:41 PM
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I tend to think he's at his most honest with himself now, now that he's looking inward and such with Vipassana.  But he's definitely a guy with "interesting" hindsight perspective.

I honestly think that's a ruse too.
141  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Weezers Pinkerton on: February 20, 2006, 04:07:12 PM
I'm not disagreeing, Ian, AT ALL. In fact, I've made that comparison before, just forgot to make it in the thread.
142  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Weezers Pinkerton on: February 20, 2006, 03:43:38 PM
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But Rivers has started to let it out that at times he absolutely hated what he was recording during that time.

Rivers hates the Blue Album, or so he says. And he hated Pinkerton and refused to play the songs live. You gotta realize, Rivers is a master of deciept. He controls his image more than any rock star and he revels in fucking with fan perception. I mean, c'mon, ever read that "Guitar World" cover story when he referred to the fans as "bitches"? Every interview he has done since "Pinkerton" has been a complete put on. The media rejected him then and ever since, it's been a game to him. How about the "bouncing ball" SPIN article? Or the recent Rolling Stone cover? I don't believe anything he says in interviews ever.
143  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Weezers Pinkerton on: February 20, 2006, 02:28:11 PM

From my xanga:


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Monday, November 10, 2003

   
   Currently Playing
Maladroit
By Weezer
see related

Yes i know Im listening to the "crappy" weezer album. Granted, it's full of two hand tapping, pick slides, and other ill guitar histrionics. It sounds like Edward Van Halen guests on half the tracks and like Mutt Lange produced. But it is brilliant. Put yourself in River's shoes. (I doubt any of us would fit but...) Your band has been away for five years, you release an album that sells insane copies to too many 12 year olds (green album), and that you yourself admits was an attempt to write songs that had little lyrical meaning but great melodies like early Beatles sides. To purge yourself of all these lame new fans who spend all their time nitpicking you online, you record an album for yourself, one that you like but know wont be loved by the fans. Its no Pinkerton. Its an ironic attempt to be "significantly more like Judas priest..."

None of us are 12 years old. Get to listening and comprehending. Album5 is on the way with Rick Rubin producing. Rivers says he's gonna rap. (and considering he guested on the crazytown album and co wrote Cold's "stupid girl" its likely) And as always we will all get pissed and disown Weezer for a month or two. get used to it.


Two years on and one more album later, I stand by this post.
144  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Beatles people: Ticket to Ride info on: February 20, 2006, 01:48:01 PM
Didn't Lennon say later on, that if mixed louder, "Ticket" was the first metal record?
145  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Beatles people: Ticket to Ride info on: February 20, 2006, 01:47:18 PM
I haven't read Sessions-- but Chronicle contains a lot of the same right? That's where my quote came from, Jeff. Taken as a whole, with their tour and other media excursions included, it paints a mighty picture of a hardworking group.
146  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Weezers Pinkerton on: February 20, 2006, 01:45:09 PM
See but I like Maladroit for the exact opposite reason. In the same way that I like bad comics and bad movies, I love the absurdity of "Maladroit." It's closer to "Pinkerton" than "Green" or "Make Believe" are, for sure. I love the dive bomb solos, the insane riffing, the overall tone. The only track I don't like is "Possibilities" since that one sounds like dialed in Cali pop punk.

I wrote a thing about Maladroit on my xanga a ways back. Ill look for it.
147  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Weezers Pinkerton on: February 20, 2006, 01:17:59 PM
It has to do with the time spent away, 1996- 2000. In those intervening years, I grew up. I graduated high school, et cetera, fell for girls, etc, all to the tune of Blue and Pinkerton. Meanwhile I was still waiting on Weezer to go with me. When they finally returned I wanted the Weezer of my youth. They lost a lot being away.

I think a lot of it is what the preconcieved notion of what weezer should sound like. And honestly, they are still defining that.
148  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Beatles people: Ticket to Ride info on: February 20, 2006, 01:02:34 PM
Me typing all that costs more than this!
149  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Beatles people: Ticket to Ride info on: February 20, 2006, 12:58:27 PM
from Lewisohn's "The Complete Beatles Chronicle":

Monday Feb 15 1965:

"...Work this day began at 2:30pm with the recording of two takes of John's Ticket to Ride and the song was completed and ready for mixing by 5:45."
"Ticket to Ride was the result of much more work than the two- take figure would suggest, with- from this year- overdubs onto the multitrack tape not being given separate numbers as before. Here, the Beatles twice taped a rhythm track (the first was a "false start", the second was "best") and then recorded any number of overdubs- numbers were never specified on recording documents- onto vacant tracks of the tape, perfecting vocals and anything else that they felt needed more attention."


It was mixed three days later into mono on Feb 18.

Buy the book Josh, I ain't typing no more, it costs like 8 bucks!
150  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Weezers Pinkerton on: February 20, 2006, 11:48:44 AM
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I never really got into his solo album.  What I heard was far from impressive.

It stinks.
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