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126  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Not sure how to feel about this news on: June 20, 2011, 01:04:46 PM
Just found on Movieline's site:
Diablo Cody’s dream writing project is a biopic of Brian Wilson
Cody said she hadn’t begun a script “even in terms of research” about the fabled Beach Boys frontman, but it’d be her dream assignment. That confession isn’t much of a surprise considering she met her first husband on a message board for diehard Beach Boys fans (as chronicled in her 2006 memoir Candy Girl), and she once blogged about meeting the rock legend himself.
127  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Artist redoes Pet Sounds cover on: January 06, 2011, 07:47:26 AM
Came upon this today and thought it was cool:
128  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Denny flips out on: December 21, 2010, 06:59:21 AM
Perhaps this has been seen by everyone, but this was posted today on a photo blog I peruse regularly:
129  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Sunflower Is 40 Years Old on: March 02, 2010, 06:55:20 AM
All you Tears-In-The-Morning-haters should at least be glad that Bruce changed his original lyrics, which were even more cringe-worthy. As I recall, he originally had one line that said, "And I don't need no nepenthe..." I was gonna say there's probably a good reason you can't name another song which contains the word "nepenthe," but a quick look at Wikipedia shows that it HAS been used a couple of times. Still, I have to wonder how the other BBs felt about that one.
130  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 1974 Mike Interview by Harvey Kubernik on: December 02, 2009, 07:28:00 AM
This interview also substantiates some revisionist history which has always bugged me. Mike states here (and in several other articles from this period) that Warmth of the Sun was written BEFORE the Kennedy assassination. In recent years, it has been changed to take place AFTER the assassination. Just another example of choosing the "better story" over the truth.
131  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Symphonic GOK on: November 24, 2009, 02:01:50 PM
At late 70s-early 80s Beach Boys concerts, part of the pre-show music was a huge, slow-paced symphonic version of God Only Knows. It was always majestic and powerful and I just realized today that I've never had a copy of this. Seems like I was told it was the "London Symphony" who recorded it. Does anyone know if it is currently available for legal download anywhere?
132  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson and Marching Bands on: October 15, 2009, 08:15:59 AM
Be True To Your School.
133  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 'Beach Boys' play bowling alley carpark! on: September 03, 2009, 07:39:38 AM
Well, I'll be seeing the Beach Boys a Mexican restaurant in Austin, Texas.
134  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Smiley Smile cover art on: April 10, 2009, 03:52:02 PM
Back in the mid-70s, when I was just starting to obsessively collect Beach Boys stuff, I remember there being some controversy regarding the Smiley Smile cover. The scuttlebutt was that there were two versions: one with the little red worm at the bottom and one without. Some wise collector settled the issue when he pointed out that the presence of the worm varied depending on whether the cover was centered and pasted to show the "Duophonic" label at the top or the "Mono" label at the bottom. (I may have those reversed, but I'm going on 35+ year-old memory, so cut me some slack). It was a happy day for me when I finally located a copy of the LP, in those days before everything got reissued. I had spent much time poring over the BB discography, trying to even IMAGINE what a song called "Fall Breaks and Back to Winter" might sound like. When I finally heard it and Wind Chimes and Little Pad and was an epiphany, probably the first time I realized how far from surfing and cars the road had traveled.
135  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Newish Brian song that flew under the radar... on: March 18, 2009, 07:55:58 AM
My favorite version of This Could Be The Night is on one of the David Cassidy albums that Bruce Johnston produced in the mid-70s. There are some very nice cuts on those two albums.
136  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Your favorite Beach Boys soundalike group? on: March 11, 2009, 07:46:13 AM
Explorers Club indeed...verging on plagiarism, but enjoyable.
A couple that haven't been mentioned: Not sure how you'd find this one--I don't think it ever even came out on CD, but an early Rhino Records LP by a group called The Toons is full of great 6-part harmonies and a very BB-ish song called "Looking at Girls."
Two albums, available on iTunes, by the Vinyl Kings, a group of Nashville session cats. The first record, A Little Trip, is a total Beatles homage that many have said actually sounds like a lost Beatles album. Their second album, Time Machine, also has a lot of Fab Four influence, but has several cuts that echo Smile-era BB records. Listen to the song called "Sycamore Bay," which includes a perfect Mike Love impression, a very Carl-esque vocal, and a coda that is so sublime it has become my ringtone. There's not a bad cut on these two albums.
Finally, Roger Joseph Manning, Jr., formerly of Jellyfish, is making awesomely-produced pop records that should have a much wider audience. His first solo album, The Land of Pure Imagination, has two GREAT songs on it: 'In the Name of Romance' and 'Wish It Would Rain.' You should own these two songs! His voice is very Bruce-like and there's a lot of Disney Girls in these two, with incredible backing vocals. His newest album, Catnip Dynamite, is more consistent and I'm enjoying it a lot.
Also worth a look: listen to a sample of "Would You Call It Love?" by Big Kid. I only have one of their three albums, but it's tasty stuff. And June & the Exit Wounds have a stripped-down BBs vibe which is nice, too.
137  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Terry Jacks on: March 09, 2009, 09:16:59 AM
I'm at a loss to understand why the BBs would bring in Terry Jacks to produce. What, Lobo wasn't available? Or Bo Donaldson? R. Dean Taylor? Now, if they'd called up Tommy James, THAT might have been interesting...I wouldn't mind hearing the Beach Boys do 'Crystal Blue Persuasion.'
138  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Surfs Up (Live) on: March 09, 2009, 09:11:09 AM
I saw the second or maybe third stop on the original Beachago tour in May '75 at the Cotton Bowl in Dallas. Bobby Lamm did indeed sing 'Surf's Up' and did an okay job...except he jumped down an octave on the end of the "columnated ruins domino" line. Peter Cetera also did the lead vocal on 'Darlin' which was pretty good. That was my first BB show and also the day I met Al, Dennis, and Carl...and ended up interviewing Carl after the show.
139  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Has anybody heard, or does anybody have \ on: September 17, 2008, 04:03:31 PM
My favorite cut is The Happy Song, perhaps by the same plumber, I can't remember. But if you ever need a cheesy, overly-perky theme for a game show, The Happy Song will make you very happy indeed.
140  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / What did Johnny Rivers DO? on: September 17, 2008, 07:05:46 AM
In the 'Help Me Rhonda' sessions, Murry tells Brian, "Success never comes from a phony singing for money." And Brian says, "Why don't you go tell Johnny Rivers that?" Any ideas what that was all about? Brian has always seemed so non-aggressive, rarely having anything bad to say about anyone, so I'm curious what Rivers had done that caused Brian to even give him a thought? Apparently it wasn't bad enough to keep the BBs from recording Mountain of Love on the Party LP...or to keep Bri from contributing background vocals to Rivers' 1975 hit remake of 'Rhonda.' And I have this nagging feeling that Brian made another Johnny Rivers remark somewhere, but I can't recall it right now.
141  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Smiley Smile was a joke. on: September 10, 2008, 09:03:29 AM
Random thoughts on Smiley:
1. I like it a lot.
2. There may have indeed been an element of 'giving Capitol the finger' in putting together the album so quickly. Remember the album Marvin Gaye did because he was contractually obligated in a divorce settlement to give all royalties from this album to his ex-wife? He produced a tossed-off piece of nothing and even called it "Here, My Dear."
3. The simplicity of the album may also have something to do with being owner of the studio for the first time. Listen to 'Abbey Road' and then to McCartney's first solo record. Seems a big step backwards, but Paul was obviously having fun with being able to overdub himself on his own time and own terms.
4. Though quirky, there are some amazing things on Smiley Smile. Example: human voices have never ever sounded like some of the vocals on 'Wind Chimes'. I still prefer the SS version to the Smile version for that reason.
142  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: TLOS \ on: September 04, 2008, 07:49:21 AM
This thread, I think, points up why I'm not as ecstatic at the release of Lucky Old Sun as I'd hoped I would be. There's this nagging voice in my head that says Scott Bennett is the "new best friend" for Brian, a role that has been played by many in the past: Van Dyke, Jack Rieley, Andy Paley, Landy, Gary Usher, Joe Thomas, Don Was, etc. The fact that you can point out a couple dozens quotes from past BW works merely heightens the possibility that this new album largely resulted from tossing a bunch of BW signature riffs into a blender and serving them up as indications of Brian's continuing creativity. With the exception of Midnight's Another Day--and Can't Wait Too Long, which is awesome but ancient--, I don't hear much here that is gonna make it onto the "BW is a genius" compilation. And if I never hear 'Mexican Girl' again, I won't mourn. Oh, and I have never understood the appeal for Brian of the Shortenin' Bread riff. How many more times is he gonna draw from THAT well?
There are pleasant moments here...but I don't see evidence that Brian is super-involved or especially creative these days. Not that he needs to be! If he never writes another note, his place in the pantheon is secure. But LOS is not ground-breaking or amazing, and that's what BW music used to/should be.
143  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian and Curt Boettcher on: August 19, 2008, 02:17:13 PM
Ah, your mention of Jack Jones triggered some memories I haven't had for a few decades. He recorded Disney Girls with lots of Bruce involvement and did what I think is still a gorgeous solo rendition of God Only Knows that I'd love to have in digital form. Don't suppose that ever came out, though, did it? I also remember giving a listen to Terry Melcher's solo album...didn't hear much to make me hang on to it, tho Flo & Eddie did a nice version of 'Rebecca' which Melcher had first recorded. It's amazing to look back and see the inter-connected threads among so many of these guys; reminds me of those intricate family trees that Pete Frane used to draw. He could make a pretty big one from a "California Music" theme...'cuz Flo & Eddie, of course, did backing vocals for David Cassidy's recording of Darlin' which was produced by Bruce...and Carl Wilson was on there, too, singing harmony vocals on I Write the Songs (before Manilow, before Captain & Tennille).
We are all the circle of life (cue music).
144  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian and Curt Boettcher on: August 18, 2008, 07:44:01 AM
I have the 45 version of California Music's 'Don't Worry Baby' and have always thought it was a great updating of that song. Another guy who seems to have been part of the California Music collective was a guitarist/singer named Bill House. Bruce Johnston produced an album for him which I believe was part of the Equinox label deal. I no longer have the album, but it did feature a pretty good song called 'Common Thief' which later re-surfaced on one of the two David Cassidy albums which Bruce produced. Bill House was all over those records, too. And I'm no Cassidy fan, but there are some really nice tracks on those two records which nobody ever seems to acknowledge.
Oh, and 'Ten Years of Harmony' is much better than 'Endless Harmony.' The emotional distance provided by Bruce being out of the BBs at the time gave it much greater poignance than the BBs singing their own praises.
145  Smiley Smile Stuff / 1970's Beach Boys Albums / Re: Carl And The Passions- So Tough on: August 12, 2008, 02:29:59 PM
I was the first person in my high school to own a portable cassette player (8-tracks were still king, but only in cars) and pre-recorded cassettes were hard to find. I came across CATP/PS at a Woolco store (a defunct discount store, sort of the Walmart of its day). I bought it because I recognized God Only Knows, Sloop John B and Wouldn't It Be Nice; I didn't really know or care that this was an old album with a new album. I just saw I was getting quite a lot of songs for a decent price.
And I liked it all! It was the start of an unending BB jones that I have loved for, what, 37 years or so? I began looking for articles or info about the BBs and there wasn't much at the time. The only pertinent book in my library was Lillian Roxon's "Rock Encyclopedia," and I xeroxed the entry for the BBs, which featured a discography. Before the two-fers of the post-Pet Sounds albums came out, I would look at those song listings in bewilderment, thinking "What would a song called 'Fall Breaks and Back to Winter' SOUND like?"
In retrospect, I like all of CATP except Blondie and Ricky's two tunes, which have always felt clunky and dull to me. The rest is gold...and if you've never gone parking in your '65 Valiant with the lay-down seats while "Cuddle Up" was playing on the 8-track...well, you ain't lived.
146  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Gospel According to the Beach Boys on: August 12, 2008, 10:02:44 AM
These weren't sermons as such; they were actually more like a college class. I used PowerPoint (actually, the Mac equivalent: Keynote) and incorporated a slew of audio, video, and photos with my own narration and transitions. No way to post it, really.
I had one guy come to me afterwards and say that, in the late 60s, he and his friends were into Hendrix and Cream, etc., and they dismissed the BBs as being light and muzak-y. He says he's now ready to re-examine that stance, now that he knows the story. Another woman went out and bought Pet Sounds and said she paid much more attention to it than she normally would. Stuff like that made me very happy. If there wasn't that darned copyright thang, I would have given everyone a CD at the end of the series of all my favorite, little-known BB stuff. But I didn't.
147  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / The Gospel According to the Beach Boys on: August 12, 2008, 08:01:14 AM
I'm one of the pastors at a large church in Texas and I've been a Beach Boys freak since around 1972. I never really thought much of combining my obsession with Brian Wilson and my profession of teaching about spiritual topics. A couple of months ago, while teaching one of my two groups (which total about 150 people), I casually said, "One of these days I'm gonna do a series on The Gospel According to the Beach Boys." The more I thought of it, the more possibilities I saw. I did several weeks of promotion, creating some cool posters and even a sort of video "trailer" for what I planned as a three-week series. Then I had to start assembling it, a task which took many, many hours. My plan was to break the story of Brian and the BBs into three basic pieces: Rise, Fall, Rebirth. On the first day, there was record attendance in class--something that doesn't usually happen in the summer at churches! Everybody was extremely attentive and appreciative. I realized I was not going to be able to cover what I wanted in three sessions, so I added a fourth week--in between the "Rise" and "Fall" weeks, I devoted a whole session to Smile, leaving it as the legendary unreleased album and saving the BWPS story for the fourth week. Two days ago, I did the final session and it has turned out to be perhaps the best-received thing I've ever done. They laughed, they cried, they asked questions, they actually wanted to go buy music...and they gave me a huge ovation.
I have focused in my pastoral "career" on finding spiritual meaning in the most mundane topics. Doing this series reinforced that mission and encouraged me to use the things I feel passionate about as springboards for finding out a little bit more about God. There are certainly plenty of spiritual hooks in Brian's music and his life. After seeing some of the recent posts on the front of this site about churches having "beach parties" etc., I thought it might interest a few of you to know that one church delved a whole lot deeper into BB shoulda heard the gasp when Charlie Manson appeared on the screen!
I'm fairly new to this board, but I go way back as a BB fan. Sometime soon I'll share that story, including my meeting several members of the group on the first Beachago tour. I've spent several hours reading the threads here...good stuff!
148  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Making the Band, BW-style on: August 06, 2008, 04:22:18 PM
Thanks, this is just the info I was looking for. So what was Taylor doing before? Other than...becoming...real purty?
149  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Making the Band, BW-style on: August 06, 2008, 10:22:14 AM
Anyone have inside knowledge of how Brian's band was assembled when he began to play live in the late 90s? I'm familiar with the story of how he heard the Wondermints play at a tribute show and was impressed, but how were other players chosen. Who actually assembled the group? How did Taylor Mills get connected? Did Darian function as bandleader from the very beginning or did he grow into that role? Any info is greatly appreciated.

150  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Text of Brian's R&R Hall of Fame speech? HELP! on: July 18, 2008, 08:13:29 AM
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