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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson: Long Promised Road (2019 Brent Wilson Documentary) on: November 30, 2021, 05:34:27 AM
Anyone else want to box Jason Fine's ears when he ambushed Brian with info that Jack Rieley had passed away? Brian looked like he might have liked to.

In a Q&A about the film, Jason stated that he thought Brian already knew, and if he had known that Brian didn't know, he never would have said anything about it.
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mini interview with Brian in latest Mojo on: November 01, 2021, 06:07:54 AM
Iíve always thought itís his stock answer in interviews to move them along or end them.

Whatís your next project?
I want to do a R&R album....Next!

Itís been the same for what, 15 years? In that time, with many albums and projects and a band at his disposal itís never happened. Donít think it has ever been tbh.
The real rockers in the band were Carl and Dennis.
I can't imagine Brian, especially nearing 80, suddenly coming out with an album of uptempo rock and roll songs.

One of Brian's most recent original releases was 'Run James Run', which I would absolutely consider an uptempo rock-n'-roll song (especially that jangly Byrds-esque intro). My memory is kinda hazy on this project - but isn't his rock-n'-roll album supposed to be a slew of covers from the late 50s and early 60s? I don't see this as unrealistic considering his recent Buddy Holly cover, and many of his covers for the Disney album had quite a good rock-n'-roll feel to them.

I thought the plan was half covers, half originals.
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Misheard lyric favorites on: October 06, 2021, 10:06:16 AM
Not a Beach Boys song, but at 17, I was hearing CCR sing, "There's the bathroom on the right."

On live versions of the song he will sub that mis-heard lyric in towards the end of the song.
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: October 04, 2021, 11:24:43 AM
That reminds me of some awards show back in the Ď80s ó the Beach Boys were appearing during the show. During LL Cool Jís performace, the camera cut to various audience reaction shots, including one of Carl Wilson grooving to LLís number.


I was trying to find that on youtube, but couldn't do so. But I saw this shout-out to Dennis from 1984 (ca. 1:30:00)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stC-XRBp_rM
And no response of any kind from the audience.

That was incredibly awkward.
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: August 11, 2021, 05:39:59 AM
The towers on Newbury in Boston was tremendous!

The best! Great memories there. Spent a boatload of cash at that place too.  LOL  I did win the Today/Summer Days 2-fer when they did a Sunday night music trivia contest, with a regular priced CD being the prize. Great book and magazine section on the first floor, that's where I also bought Look Listen Vibrate Smile.

Today/Summer Days 2-fer was the first CD I ever bought.  It was hard for future CDs to be of the caliber of that first purchase.
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Is 'Sounds of Summer' out of print on: August 05, 2021, 02:58:16 PM
It is number 122 on billboard this work.  Here is a story about it back from May:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmcintyre/2021/05/09/michael-jackson-bob-marley-drake-and-the-beach-boys-5-albums-to-watch-on-the-billboard-200/?sh=69f0795c4d72
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brianís involvement in solo albums on: July 30, 2021, 04:44:29 AM
TWGMTR (the song) is a situation where I suspect Brian contributed the title and not much else. And yet, that title is the song. He clearly deserves a credit, given that the entire piece is built around it.

Yet, to take alternate examples from the same dang records, the song "Shelter" on TWGMTR (the album) seems to be almost all written by Brian. The chorus could be Joe, but the rest of its weird little sections sound very much like something BW would cook up.

I believe it has been acknowledged that Brian's credit on "That's Why God..." is a courtesy credit for coming up with the title, and for the verses being derived from "Keep an Eye on Summer."

It's funny that you ascribe the chorus of "Shelter" to Joe Thomas, considering that it is clearly very closely based on "Thinkin' 'Bout You Baby"/"Darlin'". I believe "Shelter" is indeed one of the songs that Joe Thomas himself ascribed largely to Brian.

I gather that the opening verse lyrics and melody of "Summer's Gone" are 100% Brian and then Jon Bon Jovi came up with the rest of the song including all subsequent melodic variations.

Joe Thomas has a signature ascending/descending chord figure -- "Whatever Happened" comes to mind -- that I think typifies his "brainstorming" process and helps identify the songs he initiated.

On Summer's Gone, I thought I had read somewhere that Jon Bon Jovi wrote some of the lyrics for the last verse, and that was it, but I can't remember where I read that.
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brianís involvement in solo albums on: July 29, 2021, 12:22:31 PM
TWGMTR (the song) is a situation where I suspect Brian contributed the title and not much else. And yet, that title is the song. He clearly deserves a credit, given that the entire piece is built around it.

For reference, Scott Bennett did a similar thing with his solo track "No Wrong Notes in Heaven," which is based on a Brianism, and Wendy and Carnie did so on their song "Miracle," built around BW blurting out "Am I a fool to expect a miracle?" He gets co-writing credits on both, and he deserves to.

"No Wrong Notes": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTTSVYg6P3M
"Miracle": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOf_359m_sA

Yet, to take alternate examples from the same dang records, the song "Shelter" on TWGMTR (the album) seems to be almost all written by Brian. The chorus could be Joe, but the rest of its weird little sections sound very much like something BW would cook up. Likewise "Everything I Need" on the Carnie and Wendy album has music entirely by Brian. That's why the subject bedevils folk here at times -- there's no single way that Brian writes songs, even at the exact same points chronologically.

I thought Brian's part of No Wrong Notes was the shorten' bread part.
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian and family on Kelly Clarkson's show 6/24 (?) on: June 24, 2021, 08:41:22 AM

That was really cool!
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson: Long Promised Road (2019 Brent Wilson Documentary) on: June 22, 2021, 07:25:05 AM
Do we have confirmation on what new songs are in the movie after it has been screened?

Right Where I Belong
Long Promised Road - Blondie Lead

There was talk of Honeycomb, is that confirmed?
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson: Long Promised Road (2019 Brent Wilson Documentary) on: June 21, 2021, 10:09:07 AM
Very interesting that the only Pacific Ocean Blue song Brian knew was the "evening news" one.

https://www.nydailynews.com/snyde/ny-brian-wilson-film-commentary-20210617-r2olme7rjzbwjmzfujx3qph6tq-story.html

That is one of several comments from Brian in the film that are generating "buzz" among fans.  Another is Brian's assertion that he hasn't had a friend to speak with in 3 years.  Another is that he was unaware of Jack Rieley's death.

With regard to POB, some have pointed to contemporary reports from 1977 indicating that Brian was present during playback of at least some of the album. In any case, it's not a big deal.  Brian is a very honest guy, but his memory on some of this stuff is far less encyclopedic than that of his fans.  Did Brian probably hear all or most of POB back in the day?  Probably.  Was it ever up there with 'Be My Baby' on his personal play list?  Probably not.  And lots of times we forget that being a musician is Brian's job, and how much of our own jobs do we "leave at the office"?  I can look at work that I did 10 years ago, and I have only the dimmest memories of doing it.  A lot questions directed at Brian concern events and music from 30, 40, 50, 60 years ago.  It all seems terribly important and relevant to the questioner, but it may be ancient history for Brian himself.

With regard to the statement of not having a friend to talk to in 3 years, others have pointed out that Brian has friends and certainly does speak with them.  As such, his statement might not be objectively true, but is an expression of how he felt at that particular moment.   Let's face it.  Even going back to interviews in the '60s, the man has been known to say quite a bit of stuff that could be classified as hyperbole.


In the mid-90s I read that Brian had not heard POB.  I knew of a record store that still had the CD reissue from 90 or 91, bought it and sent it to Lauri Klobas, and asked her to send it to Brian.  She responded back that Brian, exclaimed "That's my brother!" when she gave it to him.  That sounded very Brian to me.  Who knows if he ever really got it or listened to it.  But he surely had plenty of times to listen to it if he wanted.
12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2020 Tour Thread on: May 19, 2021, 06:49:44 AM
Next will be special guests Right Said Fred
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Pet Squares #3 The Surfer Girl album just released on youTube on: May 14, 2021, 10:57:42 AM
The show is back up for what it's worth...surge on over there and watch!

https://youtu.be/-iDFkXOV1Fw


I'm finished watching it. Just like the last episode, really enjoyable and insightful! I'm looking forward to the "Little Deuce Coupe" album. That one gets overlooked quite a bit, but there's some very strong material on it. Wondering if you will go into "Cherry, cherry Coupe"'s chorus where Mike is rapping underneath the backgroundvoices, something that Brian would later do in "Cabin essence" as well.

Mike would also do that under the choruses of "Kiss Me, Baby" ("Kiss a little bit, fight a little bit").

I never noticed that part until Brian isolated the vocals in the Endless Harmony documentary.
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 1991 Brian Interview on: May 14, 2021, 10:56:50 AM
This was a new one to me. Not a good time for Brian, his family, and the other Beach Boys. https://youtu.be/QEVl-UrsqO0


I believe this interview was later taken on by SNL.


EDIT:

Well, I'm not sure if this really was the direct inspiration for the SNL bit, decide for yourself:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YssdWVBPrXA

Not available to watch in the US.  I found links at nbc, but when you click play it says it is not available.  I do remember this sketch from when I was a kid.  If I remember right, Tim Robbins is Brian Wilson, and Ross Perot keeps interrupting the interview dropping in and out of the Presidential race.
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys bought on: April 28, 2021, 05:49:41 AM
I for one can't bear to buy or wear anything with this modern logo, which was just starting to appear at around that time. Just too slick for me and too much association with ML's hats. When was the first use of that font, around the time of Knebworth '80?

It is great that they're selling any BB clothing at the brick and mortar stores, and '83 was a long time ago. Maybe I'll make an exception in this case.

I think that logo was first seen on the 15 Big Ones album cover.
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \ on: April 02, 2021, 12:14:56 PM
On the first leg of his first solo tour, This Could Be The Night was played at all 4 shows.
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson: Long Promised Road (2019 Brent Wilson Documentary) on: March 22, 2021, 05:52:15 AM
I just sent Brent an email.  I will let you guys know what he says and if he replies.

Brent just emailed me back, he said they are hoping to make an announcement soon.  He said there should be lots of press with all the details. 

Brent emailed me again and said that it is important to both him and Jason that Brian's fans see this film in theaters.
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson: Long Promised Road (2019 Brent Wilson Documentary) on: March 20, 2021, 12:22:59 PM
I just sent Brent an email.  I will let you guys know what he says and if he replies.

Brent just emailed me back, he said they are hoping to make an announcement soon.  He said there should be lots of press with all the details. 
19  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson: Long Promised Road (2019 Brent Wilson Documentary) on: March 18, 2021, 06:36:16 AM
I just sent Brent an email.  I will let you guys know what he says and if he replies.
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Who is on Spanish Kokomo? on: March 09, 2021, 04:02:10 PM
It sounds like Carl to me on his normal parts.  The main difference I hear is Brian on it.
21  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: California Music Presents Add Some Music on: February 17, 2021, 08:13:19 AM
You can pre-order this at Amazon:

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B08W3K8NTC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
22  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach With Ya Baby (fest. Scott Bennett & Al Jardine) on: February 16, 2021, 03:09:39 PM
First I've ever heard of this song but I liked it. I wonder what's happened with Scott Bennett since his problems of a few years ago

I actually looked him up a few days ago.  He was released from Prison in 2017:

https://ktul.com/news/local/man-convicted-for-2014-rape-at-hard-rock-tulsa-released-after-year-in-prison
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Beach With Ya Baby (fest. Scott Bennett & Al Jardine) on: February 16, 2021, 11:57:08 AM
I found this song by Rock-a-Billy Roach on iTunes.  I couldn't find it on youtube.  Does anyone know anything about it?  It was released on 4/29/2015.  I did find it on soundcloud:

https://soundcloud.com/bill-roach-763346319/beach-with-ya-baby-feat-al-jardine-scott-bennett
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Problem Child on CD on: February 15, 2021, 01:06:56 PM
Regarding the "Still Cruisin'" album:

To understand the context of this album, it helps to read interviews with the guys (mainly Mike) from that era.

It appears that the original idea for the album was for it to be entirely BB songs that had been featured in movies. It was intended to be essentially a re-package/compilation with a "movie" theme. I think initially it was not viewed as a "new" album the way they had done them in the past. I think Mike was viewing the thing more like those Radio Shack compilations from earlier in the 80s.

While from the fan perspective it was usually felt that the reissued/hits/oldies were what watered down the album, an interview with Mike discussing the album indicates that he felt the "non-movie" songs were what watered the album down, and that it was all inter-band politics that led to other members getting tracks (and "non-movie" tracks at that) like Brian's "In My Car" and Al's "Island Girl." Mike of course contradicted his own reasoning here by contributing his own "non-movie" song, "Somewhere Near Japan."

The band, particularly Mike, also seemed annoyed that Capitol didn't push "Somewhere Near Japan" harder as a single, feeling it got lost in label politics in terms of what they chose to push to radio and promote. While "SNJ" was undoubtedly a highlight of the album, I don't think it would have scored the band a big hit under any circumstance.

Ultimately, despite the album going gold (due surely to it being the first BB album to feature "Kokomo"), the Capitol album deal was a one-and-done, and within a few years they were having to bankroll "Summer In Paradise" themselves.

But, while fans often view this album as a "new album" that got watered down with oldies, Mike at least viewed it as a compilation album that got watered down by "new" music. Interesting.

I have always found the movie idea odd.  Here are songs from Movies on the album:

Still Cruisin'
Kokomo
Make It Big
I Get Around
Wouldn't It Be Nice
California Girls

That is only 6 songs.  Were there other songs that he wanted on there instead of the following:

Somewhere Near Japan
Island Girl
In My Car
Wipe Out


25  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Problem Child on CD on: February 09, 2021, 01:38:47 PM
I know it's hip to knock 80's era Beach Boys now - "f---- all that patriotism, apple pie, baseball, mom stuff!  I want something edgy! Something 'out there'!" I lived through that era, I was a young guy back then, and I was eager for each new release. When I heard Problem Child, I thought it would be a hit. I mean, what could go wrong? Song in a hit movie, Terry Melcher producing and writing, great vocal performance from Carl. The 80's production never bothered me. I was listening to 80's CHR and AOR radio, and that sound was all over the place. I knew the hippie/counterculture era Beach Boys were a thing of the past. I didn't have a problem with that. I didn't have a problem with the overall image. Al, for example, seemed to have taken a couple decades off his appearance once he cut his hair short again, and shaved off the beard. To me, they seemed healthier and happier than they had been in the post-Brian is Back years of the late 70's.
So yeah, I want Problem Child on vinyl, or compact disc, or dub plate....whatever.

Here it is on CD for the low price of $37.95:

https://www.musicstack.com/show.cgi?find=the+beach+boys&t=Problem+Child&label=&release_id=&barcode=&genre=&country=&seller_search=&price_min=&price_max=&media=&seller_country=&rate=&search=Search
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