I've always loved this song, even in boot form. I can't stop listening to it now it much better quality. How could this have gone unreleased? Does it have something to do with Rick Henn? Same with Soulful Old Man - he was involved in this song too. I recall him saying that the Beach Boys were goofing off during that track. Did him working with their dad have something to do with both of these great songs being left in the can?

Has there ever been a list? I feel like I’ve asked before. Maybe I dreamed it.

"She kills people, withered hands"

I knew the original line I just sometimes like to imagine an alternate Anna Lee where she isn't a healer .. but a ... killer

I feel like I saw a topic on this, but I can't find it. Surfermoon has been down for quite some time. I recall reading that the owner is apparently sick. Does anyone have a way to get into contact with him to potentially restore it or pass the domain on? If it's a money issue I will happily contribute. I used to enjoy reading chord changes while listening to songs. I'm sure many others did as well.

Do we know what if any participation Marilyn had vocally? Sounds like she is on Feel Flows backing, or am I mistaken?

Do we know what the orange juice cups looked like? or a modern equivalent? These cups were played with drum sticks? Seems too heavy. I always assumed xylophone sticks, chop sticks, etc - something lighter.

Yeah who is doing the bass scat vocal? I always go back and forth. I lean toward it being Dennis … but he never sounded like that again.  It sounds unique for Mike as well.

Looks like it is called: Dead Man’s Curve: The Rock ’n’ Roll Life of Jan Berry. I need to pick this up soon!

Just posting this because Mark has written another book entitled: 'The Jan & Dean Record: A Chronology of Studio Sessions, Live Performances and Chart Positions'.

Are there more rakes of ‘let’s live before we die’? Or was it completed? Why would the band leave this one unreleased? Even as an instrumental it is stellar.

I've read before and I was just reminded watching a video that Billy Hinsche was asked to replace Bruce around 1969 and he turned it down. Is this true? If Bruce was sacked - how much do you think that would have altered the history of the Boys? It seems Bruce was always kind of on the verge of being kicked out....

What is how deep is the ocean from 65?

Big talk to a guy who was better at being a beach boy knock off before becoming a beach boy. Then hardly contributing songs. Him and Al have got to be some of the luckiest musicians of all time.

I was looking up Sunflower on Wikipedia... I'm hype for the box set, leave me alone! And I saw that All I Wanna Do lead vocals are credited to 'Love with Johnston'. Yes I know it's Wikipedia and my neighbors dog can edit it, but is this taken from anything... 'official'? I can hear almost everyone singing on the track (except Dennis, is he on it?) but I don't specifically hear Bruce.

Am I missing something? Is this an 'official' credit from somewhere? I hear clear Mike lead with some delay on his voice, and definitely Carl and Brian. I'm sure Al is there but this period is harder to distinguish Al and Brian. I don't specifically hear Bruce.

Historians?

Can anyone translate some of them?

Hmmm, I wonder when this set is coming out

Okay - now you're talking. If it was before mid-May we'd probably have some solid info by now.

I was hoping for June which would be early Summer - plus I just want this asap.

The 22 July date, although not a Friday is the best lead we have - just thinking outside the square here for a mo - that date is a Thursday, which if this box was to be released on the Friday morning in New Zealand, Australia  etc. - that would still be Thursday in the U.S. - what do you guys think of that logic?

My money is on 23 July for the time being (until I change my mind . . . again).

Just couldn't resist an "I called it!"

Unless you changed your mind . . . Again.

Just wish we’d get some real definitive answer. Little ridiculous. Only the losers like us are going to buy it. What’s the big deal in letting us know definitively? John Doe who knows Kokomo doesn’t care about this. The nerds on the forums do.

It's coming.
It's major.

The machine is at full speed.

Hopefully this means the machine printing the box/discs!

Absolute genius himself. Song Cycle is a masterpiece. What an incredibly talented man. I saw another poster say Song Cycle stereo or remix was being pitched but no takers. I asked for a link but no avail.

Speaking of unreleased surround-related material, Van Dyke Parks has revelaed on Twitter that a surround mix of his Song Cycle LP was created, but no one wants to release it.

Do you have a link? I can’t find it on Twitter.

Speaking of unreleased surround-related material, Van Dyke Parks has revelaed on Twitter that a surround mix of his Song Cycle LP was created, but no one wants to release it.

Oh my GOD. I’d kill for that. Where did he say that? Any way we can help? A go fund me?

Definitely Dave. He talks about it in his book. He does that killer glissando toward the end of the track and says Murry was glaring at him in the control booth. The glissando was a nod to Dick Dale. I love it and listen to it every time toward the end. Nice little ‘street cred’ flair. Once ya hear it, you can’t unhear it.

While there was probably more to it like talent and personality, I never thought that Bruce was the right one to replace Brian on the road. His vocals sounded unusually tinny and weak and didn't resonate well with the others. When he sang both on tracks and live it was always easy to identify as Bruce and not an integral part of the blend. I would have liked to have seen Flo and Eddie, who's harmony was akin to the boys, join the group. They could have handled Brian's parts and after Carl passed pick up his parts as well. I think both of those guys who ended up with Zappa would have complimented the boys vocals both on record and the stage as well far better than Bruce.

I wish they would have scooped up Dean. By all accounts a swell guy and was friends with the band. I even wish they would have persuaded David Marks to come back. His song writing would have helped considering Bruce barely ever pitched songs. He was better at imitating The Beach Boys than being an actual Beach Boy. Where’s a ‘don’t run away’ when they needed it?

Definitely all dressed up for school. Surprised no one did that. He kills the bass vocals and the tag.

Cool! I hope there are A Christmas Gift for You sessions out there.

Imagine being so petty and bitter that you trash talk a guy on a message board who will never see this. Nor care. Like him or not  - he’s part of the reason we’re all here. And he will go down in history longer than any of us.

Happy birthday Mike. I don’t always agree with you, but you’ll never see this so who cares!