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101  Smiley Smile Stuff / Polls / Re: Beach Boys ULTIMATE Survivor on: June 30, 2014, 01:39:40 PM
This Whole World.  I love it, but I sometimes think of it like a collection of gorgeous sections while the others feel like complete, flowing works.
102  Smiley Smile Stuff / Polls / Re: Beach Boys ULTIMATE Survivor on: June 27, 2014, 07:29:36 PM
This Whole World
103  Smiley Smile Stuff / Polls / Re: Beach Boys ULTIMATE Survivor on: June 25, 2014, 10:26:21 AM
This Whole World, slightly.
104  Smiley Smile Stuff / Polls / Re: Beach Boys ULTIMATE Survivor on: June 23, 2014, 08:17:24 PM
Suddenly it got tough.  I'm actually going with This Whole World.
105  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Was \ on: June 21, 2014, 06:19:04 AM
I don't think Summer in Paradise offers much worthwhile, with Lahaina Aloha being the only song I make an effort to revisit.  That being said, it's certainly not the last thing I'd choose to seek when it comes to the wide world of music. As much as I hate Summer of Love and, out of anything The Beach Boys have done, wish it didn't exist, I'd still take it over something like Tik Tok by Ke$ha.
106  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brother Re-Issues: Proposed Bonus Tracks on: June 20, 2014, 10:15:30 AM
do I see a new Beach Boys compilation coming titled "The Beach Boys-On the farm."  LOL
You can be sure they'll still fit a surfboard on the cover somewhere.
107  Smiley Smile Stuff / Polls / Re: Beach Boys ULTIMATE Survivor on: June 20, 2014, 10:13:23 AM
From There to Back Again.  Great song, but the 2012 studio tricks can't quite hold up to vintage 60's and 70's.
108  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Was \ on: June 19, 2014, 06:23:07 PM
The thing about not being able to improve a bad song with a good mix -- you know, as a songwriter, it took me a long time to understand that when people say "this or that is a great song" they really are saying, without realizing it, that it's a record that makes sounds they like.  The art of songwriting and the art of production and execution are not the same, but I have found that the old maxim "it's all about the song" is not really true.  Rather, it's all about how you develop and present what you write.  If you are starting with a good idea and the production and arrangement respect and enhance that idea, you are good to go.  If you take that good idea and go down the wrong road, then your great idea won't connect.  Even with an acoustic-only presentation, try listening to Paul Simon singing one of his songs and then go listen to the karaoke guy down the street do it, and you'll see what I mean.  A bad execution can make a good song seem bad; a good execution can bring out the potential in a mediocre idea and what might be flat-out bad with one approach would be quirky and interesting another way.
I completely agree with this and it's an argument I don't see nearly enough.

Put any Beach Boys classic in a contemporary top 40 sheen, and you can be sure I'll dislike it.  Conversely, I'm sure a circa-1966 Brian Wilson could have pulled off some of my more maligned tracks of all-time.  I'm at the point where, although a song being strong compositionally can still separate itself from others, it's really the execution that makes or breaks any recording to my ears.
109  Smiley Smile Stuff / Polls / Re: Beach Boys ULTIMATE Survivor on: June 18, 2014, 03:49:44 PM
Goin' On (which should have been out at least two rounds ago)
110  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Was \ on: June 16, 2014, 06:27:59 PM
I personally think mix can make quite a difference, and production even more so.  The MIC version of Rock and Roll Music as well as the single version are far better than what ended up on the album IMO.  

Then again I consider 15 Big Ones more of a middling album than a terrible one (for music in general).  Though it loses points for some of the half-crazed covers, I think the overall production is more interesting than those on any album they did after Love You.  You play around with some of the elements there, and maybe it goes up another notch.
111  Smiley Smile Stuff / Polls / Re: Beach Boys ULTIMATE Survivor on: June 16, 2014, 10:09:56 AM
Goin' On
112  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What are the odds on an official Adult/Child release? on: June 15, 2014, 11:10:38 AM
For unreleased stuff, I quite like Lines and It's Trying to Say and would be pleased to see them released.  Everybody Wants to Live also provides some quirky fun.  I personally think the non-Big Band tracks sound more like demos in their production, so I think I'd like them even better with more of a Love You sheen.
113  Smiley Smile Stuff / Polls / Re: Beach Boys Super Survivor #2 Final Round: 1965-1969 on: June 15, 2014, 06:31:54 AM
California Girls
114  Smiley Smile Stuff / Polls / Re: Beach Boys Super Survivor #4 Top Three: 1978-2012 on: June 15, 2014, 06:29:01 AM
Just realized this round is over with the top three.  No wonder nobody else was voting.
115  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brother Re-Issues: Proposed Bonus Tracks on: June 14, 2014, 12:50:17 PM
With that whole copyright thing regarding The Big Beat 1963, wouldn't that mean release of this material is only a matter of time?  If my understanding of that situation is right, and I'm not positive on that by any means, unreleased material that is over 50 years old becomes public domain unless made available to the public.  So under this even the late 70's stuff would be due within about 15 years, barring a change in law.
116  Smiley Smile Stuff / Polls / Re: Beach Boys Super Survivor #4 Final Round: 1978-2012 on: June 12, 2014, 10:27:49 AM
Goin' On Undecided
117  Smiley Smile Stuff / Polls / Re: Beach Boys Super Survivor #3 Final Round: 1969-1978 on: June 12, 2014, 10:27:31 AM
Boo at Trader going out before All This Is That.

All This Is That
118  Smiley Smile Stuff / Polls / Re: Beach Boys Super Survivor #2: 1965-1969 on: June 12, 2014, 10:27:05 AM
California Girls
119  Smiley Smile Stuff / Polls / Re: Beach Boys Super Survivor #1 Final Round: 1962-1965 on: June 12, 2014, 10:26:46 AM
I Get Around
120  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: BB tunes that deserve better lyrics? on: June 10, 2014, 07:20:30 PM
For the most part, I really don't care about lyrics other than how they fit sonically (i.e. no awkward phrasing, unpleasant words).  But whatever little interest I have in lyrics, it would be those relating to human frailties and emotions, not a Californian experience.  That's where when it comes to content songs like Wouldn't It Be Nice ad In My Room work for me whereas with, say, California Girls I really don't pay attention to the lyrics.  Musically I obviously get a lot out of all of them.  Good lyrics can enhance a great song, but they would be hard-pressed to destroy one.
121  Smiley Smile Stuff / Polls / Re: Beach Boys Survivor #22 WINNER!: ALL THIS IS THAT on: June 10, 2014, 02:04:51 PM
Carl and the Passions-so tough is NOT  a BBs record even worth recommending , I dont see how it gets a whole thread devoted to it. Mess of help and marcella is decent tunes but its prevalent that warner/reprise was pestering them for product like capitol was doing in 63-4. After sunflower it was obvious that their signature sound was transforming and being that mainstream rock had taken a swandive around 68 it was aparent that quality music was no longer mainstream.
If any album post-Love You gets a survivor round, which they did, I'll fight to no end to uphold Carl and the Passions' place.  For me the album's biggest flaw (moreso than its lack of cohesiveness) is how the vocals on certain tracks are a little low in the mix.  It's most apparent to me on Here She Comes, but the falsetto ending on All This Is That also stands out as a moment that would have been that much sweeter if it hadn't been softened so quickly.  Maybe it's just the version I have, but I've heard others say the same.  Regarding the music itself, I have little complaints.
122  Smiley Smile Stuff / Polls / Re: Beach Boys Super Survivor #1: 1962-1965 on: June 10, 2014, 01:57:30 PM
Surfin' USA.  I actually find this survivor group one of the easier ones to do so far, but it'll likely change after this song is out.
123  Smiley Smile Stuff / Polls / Re: Beach Boys Super Survivor #2: 1965-1969 on: June 10, 2014, 01:56:43 PM
California Girls
124  Smiley Smile Stuff / Polls / Re: Beach Boys Super Survivor #3: 1969-1978 on: June 10, 2014, 01:56:29 PM
All This Is That
125  Smiley Smile Stuff / Polls / Re: Beach Boys Super Survivor #4: 1978-2012 on: June 10, 2014, 01:55:45 PM
Goin' On. I still like the song and I would still vote for it as best on its respective album, but IMO it pales in comparison to much of the rest, including the departed Where I Belong (RIP).  If it wins, I can't understand why.
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