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Title: Looking Back With Love - Official Release
Post by: sloopjohnb72 on March 05, 2021, 11:10:02 AM
https://open.spotify.com/album/3bDPASvPa8Ev18ZUbXPrBt?si=-yBvhXZUT6-6LbgmjgC6_g

It's real.


Title: Re: Looking Back With Love - Official Release
Post by: CenturyDeprived on March 05, 2021, 11:14:04 AM
Finally, Mike's beloved ode to muff diving can be heard by a new generation. Fans rejoice; Rockin' the Fan in the Boat


Title: Re: Looking Back With Love - Official Release
Post by: UEF on March 05, 2021, 11:20:52 AM
Finally, Mike's beloved ode to muff diving can be heard by a new generation. Fans rejoice; Rockin' the Fan in the Boat

Looking at the lyrics it looks like something more manual

Ah well; it *is* a ‘digital release’ after all...


Title: Re: Looking Back With Love - Official Release
Post by: Rocker on March 05, 2021, 11:32:51 AM
I didn't think Irving Azoff would start with this 


Title: Re: Looking Back With Love - Official Release
Post by: as1972 on March 05, 2021, 11:33:58 AM
What's interesting is that, According to Amazon, this went up on February 16th. Two days before the Iconic Artists deal was announced.


Title: Re: Looking Back With Love - Official Release
Post by: “Big Daddy” on March 05, 2021, 12:14:57 PM
The company behind this release—43 North Broadway—is one of the intellectual property vultures that has gained notoriety in the last few years from buying up defunct independent labels and then putting out these slipshod digital releases. They must have acquired Boardwalk’s assets at some point. Probably can safely assume that Mike/the BBs’ camp/Iconic had nothing to do with the release. Haven’t fully taken the time to examine this new digital version of LBWL but I think I’ve already noticed the left and right channels have been swapped from the original release.


Title: Re: Looking Back With Love - Official Release
Post by: “Big Daddy” on March 05, 2021, 12:26:35 PM
Might be worth bringing up that 43 North Broadway’s legal standing regarding whether they actually the rights to the material they put out occasionally gets called into question… here’s a Washington Post article (https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/music/it-was-the-first-entirely-black-run-jazz-company-in-decades-but-was-black-jazz-records-actually-owned-by-a-white-guy/2020/08/26/a8c764be-e211-11ea-8181-606e603bb1c4_story.html) detailing lawsuits they’re facing over the rights to the Black Jazz record label. I also noticed recently that 43 North Broadway put out a version of the Buckinghams’ Kind Of A Drag album on streaming services even though Columbia Records also has a version on streaming services (after Columbia acquired the rights to Kind Of A Drag from the independent label USA Records back in the ’60s). Hence my skepticism about any involvement with the Mike Love camp on this LBWL reissue…


Title: Re: Looking Back With Love - Official Release
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on March 05, 2021, 01:25:17 PM
Finally, Mike's beloved ode to muff diving can be heard by a new generation. Fans rejoice; Rockin' the Fan in the Boat
:pirate :h5 :rock :thud :tm :spin :whatever :shrug :ahh :o ::) :lol


Title: Re: Looking Back With Love - Official Release
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on March 05, 2021, 03:52:17 PM
Crazy confession..:.I actually really like about 3/4 of this, especially on and on and on, and the last three songs.


Title: Re: Looking Back With Love - Official Release
Post by: CenturyDeprived on March 05, 2021, 03:56:37 PM
Crazy confession..:.I actually really like about 3/4 of this, especially on and on and on, and the last three songs.

You're not alone. I wouldn't use the word love, but some of this album is definitely a guilty pleasure, same with some of SIP.


Title: Re: Looking Back With Love - Official Release
Post by: Rocker on March 06, 2021, 03:24:50 AM
Crazy confession..:.I actually really like about 3/4 of this, especially on and on and on, and the last three songs.

You're not alone. I wouldn't use the word love, but some of this album is definitely a guilty pleasure, same with some of SIP.


I'm also quite fond of SIP. That's the good thing about music. Even a thing that a critic would destroy has it's merits as long as somebody gets some joy out of it.


Title: Re: Looking Back With Love - Official Release
Post by: Rob Dean on March 06, 2021, 06:29:10 AM
Crazy confession..:.I actually really like about 3/4 of this, especially on and on and on, and the last three songs.

You're not alone. I wouldn't use the word love, but some of this album is definitely a guilty pleasure, same with some of SIP.


I'm also quite fond of SIP. That's the good thing about music. Even a thing that a critic would destroy has it's merits as long as somebody gets some joy out of it.



Yep, same here - Always thought the vocals were superb, great production (other than the crap drums) but just a shame about some of the material
OH and a superb sleeve


Title: Re: Looking Back With Love - Official Release
Post by: RJM on March 06, 2021, 11:18:38 AM
Crazy confession..:.I actually really like about 3/4 of this, especially on and on and on, and the last three songs.

Mike’s version of Teach Me Tonight was always a guilty pleasure of mine.


Title: Re: Looking Back With Love - Official Release
Post by: Lonely Summer on March 06, 2021, 11:16:42 PM
I guess this is my excuse to finally give this thing a listen. I've seen used copies in stores recently, but they weren't in the best shape.


Title: Re: Looking Back With Love - Official Release
Post by: Jim V. on March 07, 2021, 08:54:48 AM
If this thing is ever given a digital release for purchase I'd probably snag "Be My Baby" and "Paradise Found" perhaps. I do wonder why it's available for streaming but not purchase. I also really do wonder if it's legal. Anybody interested in contact Michael Edward Love or his people for their take on this?

Anyways, maybe I'll give this album a listen later. I had some old mp3s from a while ago that I never really dug into, so maybe it's time to get the album more of a chance. Obviously it doesn't have a great reputation at all, however there are some folks on this board whose taste I pretty much trust who have a soft spot for this album.


Title: Re: Looking Back With Love - Official Release
Post by: CenturyDeprived on March 07, 2021, 10:25:27 AM
The very strange thing is when on Spotify, take a look at the artist listing for the album. Yes it states "Mike Love", yet it's a wholly different Mike Love artist listing compared to his other releases like UTL.

That's very, very weird, and almost comical that this discrepancy has gone unnoticed both by fans as well as whatever people in a corporate office who uploaded the songs to Spotify


Title: Re: Looking Back With Love - Official Release
Post by: doc smiley on March 08, 2021, 07:55:20 AM
"One Good Reason" was the Huey Lewis and the News formula before Huey Lewis!  (quick, call the lawyers!! lol)


Title: Re: Looking Back With Love - Official Release
Post by: SenorPotatoHead on March 09, 2021, 05:51:47 AM
"Lookin' Back With Love is the name of the new Mike Love album, and with the lame album cover and the even lamer in store display piece, we're sure to sell zero units - in Februrary!"   :lol


Title: Re: Looking Back With Love - Official Release
Post by: thetojo on March 09, 2021, 05:10:10 PM
"Lookin' Back With Love is the name of the new Mike Love album, and with the lame album cover and the even lamer in store display piece, we're sure to sell zero units - in Februrary!"   :lol

 :lol


Title: Re: Looking Back With Love - Official Release
Post by: Awesoman on March 16, 2021, 06:29:01 AM
Also on YT Music if you don't have Spotify:

https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mz57M2TockrnwTSAEPav6O0cq4foNZtn4


Title: Re: Looking Back With Love - Official Release
Post by: NateRuvin on March 16, 2021, 11:16:28 AM
Still not on Apple Music.


Title: Re: Looking Back With Love - Official Release
Post by: wilojarston on March 16, 2021, 11:16:57 AM
Mike was not interested in having this album reissued on CD, let alone in high def.  He was approached several times by a legit CD reissue label and declined to proceed with a digital release.


Title: Re: Looking Back With Love - Official Release
Post by: ForHerCryingSoul on March 16, 2021, 07:23:12 PM
I have a vinyl rip of it, but I am currently listening to the Spotify release now. I like about half this album, but I think there should have been more Beach Boys involvement personally.


Title: Re: Looking Back With Love - Official Release
Post by: wilojarston on March 16, 2021, 07:35:59 PM
It wouldn't have been a solo album for him if there was more Beach Boys inclusion, right?


Title: Re: Looking Back With Love - Official Release
Post by: CenturyDeprived on March 16, 2021, 08:24:28 PM
As bad/mediocre/awful/sometimes guilty pleasure OK that this album is throughout, it's far more listenable relatively speaking to my ears than any other solo efforts that Mike has put out. Ironic that this would be the one he wants to bury.


Title: Re: Looking Back With Love - Official Release
Post by: Ninten on March 16, 2021, 08:45:16 PM
Mike was not interested in having this album reissued on CD, let alone in high def.  He was approached several times by a legit CD reissue label and declined to proceed with a digital release.

Shame to hear. I quite enjoy the album, and it's a gaping hole in my CD collection. At least I have it on vinyl.


Title: Re: Looking Back With Love - Official Release
Post by: Jim V. on March 16, 2021, 09:22:51 PM
Mike was not interested in having this album reissued on CD, let alone in high def.  He was approached several times by a legit CD reissue label and declined to proceed with a digital release.

Really? I'm not saying I don't believe you, but do you have sources for this? I mean, with the amount of goofy Mike Love artifacts out there, it's interesting that as CenturyDeprived basically said, this would be the thing Mike would wanna bury and keep away from easy public consumption.

Also I know I've been on this one for a while, but it's also a shame that there is nothing available digitally from Mike's band Celebration except for the appearance of the song "Almost Summer" on a CD called (yep, you guessed it) Guilty Pleasures. Even if the whole Almost Summer soundtrack couldn't be licensed, one would thing there coulda been a Celebration anthology released with the all their songs from that soundtrack along with along with their self-titled album. Best to forget Disco Celebration though. Maybe leave that in obscurity.


Title: Re: Looking Back With Love - Official Release
Post by: CenturyDeprived on March 16, 2021, 10:44:03 PM
Mike was not interested in having this album reissued on CD, let alone in high def.  He was approached several times by a legit CD reissue label and declined to proceed with a digital release.

Really? I'm not saying I don't believe you, but do you have sources for this? I mean, with the amount of goofy Mike Love artifacts out there, it's interesting that as CenturyDeprived basically said, this would be the thing Mike would wanna bury and keep away from easy public consumption.

Also I know I've been on this one for a while, but it's also a shame that there is nothing available digitally from Mike's band Celebration except for the appearance of the song "Almost Summer" on a CD called (yep, you guessed it) Guilty Pleasures. Even if the whole Almost Summer soundtrack couldn't be licensed, one would thing there coulda been a Celebration anthology released with the all their songs from that soundtrack along with along with their self-titled album. Best to forget Disco Celebration though. Maybe leave that in obscurity.


I know there's a moment in the 1989 BBs campfire sessions where Mike seems to want to bury the LBWL album when Brian brings it up. It's pretty shocking to hear the album as obscure as that brought up by Brian almost a decade later.

Mike seems genuinely embarrassed, although he plays it off in a joking manner. Granted that was 32 years ago, but that's some decent evidence that he's certainly not proud of that work, and I don't think it ever got well reviewed or had many fans. 

How Mike could years later give the greenlight to any number of other more recent atrocities that he has released under his own name baffles the mind, because it would seem that at one point he at least expressed the ability to be embarrassed by his own work when it was substandard.


Title: Re: Looking Back With Love - Official Release
Post by: thetojo on March 17, 2021, 05:18:53 PM
Mike was not interested in having this album reissued on CD, let alone in high def.  He was approached several times by a legit CD reissue label and declined to proceed with a digital release.

Really? I'm not saying I don't believe you, but do you have sources for this? I mean, with the amount of goofy Mike Love artifacts out there, it's interesting that as CenturyDeprived basically said, this would be the thing Mike would wanna bury and keep away from easy public consumption.

Also I know I've been on this one for a while, but it's also a shame that there is nothing available digitally from Mike's band Celebration except for the appearance of the song "Almost Summer" on a CD called (yep, you guessed it) Guilty Pleasures. Even if the whole Almost Summer soundtrack couldn't be licensed, one would thing there coulda been a Celebration anthology released with the all their songs from that soundtrack along with along with their self-titled album. Best to forget Disco Celebration though. Maybe leave that in obscurity.


I know there's a moment in the 1989 BBs campfire sessions where Mike seems to want to bury the LBWL album when Brian brings it up. It's pretty shocking to hear the album as obscure as that brought up by Brian almost a decade later.

Mike seems genuinely embarrassed, although he plays it off in a joking manner. Granted that was 32 years ago, but that's some decent evidence that he's certainly not proud of that work, and I don't think it ever got well reviewed or had many fans. 

How Mike could years later give the greenlight to any number of other more recent atrocities that he has released under his own name baffles the mind, because it would seem that at one point he at least expressed the ability to be embarrassed by his own work when it was substandard.

I was going to mention that same moment - Mike was clearly embarrassed by the mention of it.

I suspect - and have read, although I'm very much paraphrasing - that in the wake of Dennis' solo effort Mike was quite jealous of all the positive attention Dennis got. No surprise there. Suddenly within about a year of Pacific Ocean Blue - Mike has 2 albums worth of unreleasable solo material ready to go - and no-one would distribute it!!

I seem to remember also that there was a bit of an issue that arose when Mike was away doing the Maharishi's TM Sidhis course and the CBS contact was signed - precluding the release of solo albums. I think Mike may have been furious. This is just from memory, but I'm sure it's in Steven Gaines' book.

Point being, I think Mike was desperate to go solo -at that time- and then when his album didn't sell I think he realised solo albums were never going to be his strong suit! There's also the quote from, I think, the press conference after Dennis' death. Something like "We are not disbanding. We have tried specialisation, it doesn't work as well as the togetherness of the group". That one appears in the An American Band doco towards the end.

Interestingly, post Mike's album and pre Dennis' death, in the middle there is the Mike and Dean era and also the 1982 recordings with Adrian Baker.


Title: Re: Looking Back With Love - Official Release
Post by: CenturyDeprived on March 17, 2021, 05:51:31 PM
Mike was not interested in having this album reissued on CD, let alone in high def.  He was approached several times by a legit CD reissue label and declined to proceed with a digital release.

Really? I'm not saying I don't believe you, but do you have sources for this? I mean, with the amount of goofy Mike Love artifacts out there, it's interesting that as CenturyDeprived basically said, this would be the thing Mike would wanna bury and keep away from easy public consumption.

Also I know I've been on this one for a while, but it's also a shame that there is nothing available digitally from Mike's band Celebration except for the appearance of the song "Almost Summer" on a CD called (yep, you guessed it) Guilty Pleasures. Even if the whole Almost Summer soundtrack couldn't be licensed, one would thing there coulda been a Celebration anthology released with the all their songs from that soundtrack along with along with their self-titled album. Best to forget Disco Celebration though. Maybe leave that in obscurity.


I know there's a moment in the 1989 BBs campfire sessions where Mike seems to want to bury the LBWL album when Brian brings it up. It's pretty shocking to hear the album as obscure as that brought up by Brian almost a decade later.

Mike seems genuinely embarrassed, although he plays it off in a joking manner. Granted that was 32 years ago, but that's some decent evidence that he's certainly not proud of that work, and I don't think it ever got well reviewed or had many fans. 

How Mike could years later give the greenlight to any number of other more recent atrocities that he has released under his own name baffles the mind, because it would seem that at one point he at least expressed the ability to be embarrassed by his own work when it was substandard.

I was going to mention that same moment - Mike was clearly embarrassed by the mention of it.

I suspect - and have read, although I'm very much paraphrasing - that in the wake of Dennis' solo effort Mike was quite jealous of all the positive attention Dennis got. No surprise there. Suddenly within about a year of Pacific Ocean Blue - Mike has 2 albums worth of unreleasable solo material ready to go - and no-one would distribute it!!

I seem to remember also that there was a bit of an issue that arose when Mike was away doing the Maharishi's TM Sidhis course and the CBS contact was signed - precluding the release of solo albums. I think Mike may have been furious. This is just from memory, but I'm sure it's in Steven Gaines' book.

Point being, I think Mike was desperate to go solo -at that time- and then when his album didn't sell I think he realised solo albums were never going to be his strong suit! There's also the quote from, I think, the press conference after Dennis' death. Something like "We are not disbanding. We have tried specialisation, it doesn't work as well as the togetherness of the group". That one appears in the An American Band doco towards the end.

Interestingly, post Mike's album and pre Dennis' death, in the middle there is the Mike and Dean era and also the 1982 recordings with Adrian Baker.


You're absolutely right, I had totally forgotten about those unreleased solo albums that were presumably deemed unreleasable by labels that came *right in the wake of POB*. No way that timing is a coincidence.

It's remarkable because it really shows an instance of Mike nearly identically doing what he would do many years later when Brian solo shows got much better reviews than Mike... Mike would then decide to "up his game" and try to get competitive, lest he be outshined by the Wilson's to a degree that was too large for his ego to handle.

Interesting to think that as mediocre, which is to be generous, as the LBWL album is, it was something like the third and only successful attempt by Mike to get an album released.

The fact that he had recently tried a country album - and so quickly abandoned that genre - really makes it seem like he was having an identity crisis much like the character Buck Swope, played by Don Cheadle, did in the film Boogie Nights. And much like Buck eventually got absorbed back into the adult business which was his bread and butter, so did Mike soon do the same with being absorbed back into the band when nothing else worked.


Title: Re: Looking Back With Love - Official Release
Post by: thetojo on March 17, 2021, 09:00:17 PM
I think I better clarify something. It was Carl who makes the togetherness comment I wrote about above.

Don't want to be thought to suggest it was Mike speaking.


Title: Re: Looking Back With Love - Official Release
Post by: Zargo on March 17, 2021, 10:02:53 PM
I recall Mike saying "I'm not against it" in response to this question in an interview or fan chat a few years back.


Title: Re: Looking Back With Love - Official Release
Post by: “Big Daddy” on June 14, 2021, 09:19:13 AM
Looks like LBWL has been pulled from download/streaming services. Wonder if 43 North Broadway got in trouble? :-[


Title: Re: Looking Back With Love - Official Release
Post by: as1972 on June 14, 2021, 01:55:15 PM
Looks like LBWL has been pulled from download/streaming services. Wonder if 43 North Broadway got in trouble? :-[

My pet theory is that Iconic has bought the rights and are preparing a deluxe reissue for its 50th anniversary this October


Title: Re: Looking Back With Love - Official Release
Post by: thetojo on June 14, 2021, 09:49:25 PM
Looks like LBWL has been pulled from download/streaming services. Wonder if 43 North Broadway got in trouble? :-[

My pet theory is that Iconic has bought the rights and are preparing a deluxe reissue for its 50th anniversary this October

please include session excerpts . . . please include session excerpts. . .


Title: Re: Looking Back With Love - Official Release
Post by: as1972 on June 17, 2021, 03:57:52 AM
Looks like LBWL has been pulled from download/streaming services. Wonder if 43 North Broadway got in trouble? :-[

My pet theory is that Iconic has bought the rights and are preparing a deluxe reissue for its 50th anniversary this October

please include session excerpts . . . please include session excerpts. . .

Disc 3 Track 12: Rockin' the Man In The Boad (Writing Session Highlights) [11:49]


Title: Re: Looking Back With Love - Official Release
Post by: HeyJude on June 17, 2021, 08:40:58 AM
That Mike has released 37 solo albums in the last five years but still hasn't pushed for LBWL isn't surprising. When Brian brings "Looking Back With Love" up during that '89 campfire bit, this is Mike's reaction:

(https://scontent-sjc3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/200291479_2891953864407958_7949973781668566491_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=OVvLjyYf02sAX96EXE0&_nc_ht=scontent-sjc3-1.xx&oh=47a63bb10d232528e42fcaabd547bf14&oe=60CFE305)


Title: Re: Looking Back With Love - Official Release
Post by: thetojo on June 18, 2021, 03:04:53 PM
Looks like LBWL has been pulled from download/streaming services. Wonder if 43 North Broadway got in trouble? :-[

My pet theory is that Iconic has bought the rights and are preparing a deluxe reissue for its 50th anniversary this October

please include session excerpts . . . please include session excerpts. . .

Disc 3 Track 12: Rockin' the Man In The Boad (Writing Session Highlights) [11:49]

 :o