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Title: Brianís voice at its absolute roughest
Post by: The Nearest Faraway Place on March 05, 2020, 01:49:32 PM
https://youtu.be/d-U-AVwD4u8


Title: Re: Brianís voice at its absolute roughest
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on March 05, 2020, 02:29:17 PM
He sounded like Dennis.  :o


Title: Re: Brianís voice at its absolute roughest
Post by: The Nearest Faraway Place on March 05, 2020, 03:53:42 PM
He sounded like Dennis.  :o
Yeah. And itís weird because the majority of the M.I.U album was recorded just 2 months before this interview, and he sounds actually really good on She's Got Rhythm and Match Point of Our Love. And by 1979, his voice had mostly changed to his 80s voice


Title: Re: Brianís voice at its absolute roughest
Post by: DeanEntwistle on March 05, 2020, 05:24:45 PM
He sounded like Dennis.  :o
nah, Denny's voice sounded way more worse during his last years (1981-83) and Brian's raspiness during this interview was something temporary, maybe he had a crazy party last night and he lost his voice for a day or two, but yeah, his voice in this interview was similar to his Brother's voice


Title: Re: Brianís voice at its absolute roughest
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on March 06, 2020, 07:36:23 AM
I thought it was established he had laryngitis around this time?


Title: Re: Brianís voice at its absolute roughest
Post by: PhilSpectre on March 06, 2020, 01:22:16 PM
I thought it was established he had laryngitis around this time?

I believe that is what Brian claims in his autobiography a few years back, but you don't have laryngitis for years ...


Title: Re: Brianís voice at its absolute roughest
Post by: Jay on March 06, 2020, 02:33:01 PM
It's one of the side effects of cocaine, which Brian used chronically for years.


Title: Re: Brianís voice at its absolute roughest
Post by: DeanEntwistle on March 06, 2020, 04:20:25 PM
I thought it was established he had laryngitis around this time?

I believe that is what Brian claims in his autobiography a few years back, but you don't have laryngitis for years ...
yeah, the laryngitis was something he had during the 15 Big Ones recording sessions, maybe the drugs, forcing his voice during his laryingitis days and cigarrettes gave him that kind of temporary raspiness


Title: Re: Brianís voice at its absolute roughest
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on March 06, 2020, 09:28:59 PM
I thought it was established he had laryngitis around this time?

I believe that is what Brian claims in his autobiography a few years back, but you don't have laryngitis for years ...

It took me months and Iím not a coke user.  He kept getting it, too, because he didnít take care of himself which made each bout worse.


Title: Re: Brianís voice at its absolute roughest
Post by: Jay on March 07, 2020, 07:23:01 AM
I thought it was established he had laryngitis around this time?

I believe that is what Brian claims in his autobiography a few years back, but you don't have laryngitis for years ...

It took me months and Iím not a coke user.  He kept getting it, too, because he didnít take care of himself which made each bout worse.
I'm starting to wonder whether or not it was indeed a major contributing factor in the loss of much of his higher range. At first I kind of shrugged it off as a "typical Brian" answer, but now I'm not so sure.


Title: Re: Brianís voice at its absolute roughest
Post by: The Nearest Faraway Place on March 07, 2020, 12:06:28 PM
I thought it was established he had laryngitis around this time?

I believe that is what Brian claims in his autobiography a few years back, but you don't have laryngitis for years ...

It took me months and Iím not a coke user.  He kept getting it, too, because he didnít take care of himself which made each bout worse.
I'm starting to wonder whether or not it was indeed a major contributing factor in the loss of much of his higher range. At first I kind of shrugged it off as a "typical Brian" answer, but now I'm not so sure.
His voice started changing around 1969. Listen to When a Man Needs a Woman, recorded 1968, then Good Time, recorded 1969. The difference is extremely small, but you can here it.
You can really here the difference between 1970 and 1971. Listen to the first 4 lines of Take a Load Off Your Feet, recorded 1970, then to his part in Springís Sweet Mountain. His voice had deepened a lot.
Obviously, everyone knows the big change came between 1973-75, but after 1977, his voice began to fluctuate again.
On Match Point of Our Love, his voice sounds ok, but on Lazy Lizzie, his voice is back to all raspy. And his voice continued fluctuating until about 1982, where he settled in to his 80s voice.
He retained this voice until around 1995, where it began deepening again. Listen to the 1988 version of Love and Mercy, than the 1995 version.
His voice settled to what we know now around 1997-1998


Title: Re: Brianís voice at its absolute roughest
Post by: DeanEntwistle on March 07, 2020, 01:28:06 PM
I thought it was established he had laryngitis around this time?

I believe that is what Brian claims in his autobiography a few years back, but you don't have laryngitis for years ...

It took me months and Iím not a coke user.  He kept getting it, too, because he didnít take care of himself which made each bout worse.
I'm starting to wonder whether or not it was indeed a major contributing factor in the loss of much of his higher range. At first I kind of shrugged it off as a "typical Brian" answer, but now I'm not so sure.
His voice started changing around 1969. Listen to When a Man Needs a Woman, recorded 1968, then Good Time, recorded 1969. The difference is extremely small, but you can here it.
You can really here the difference between 1970 and 1971. Listen to the first 4 lines of Take a Load Off Your Feet, recorded 1970, then to his part in Springís Sweet Mountain. His voice had deepened a lot.
Obviously, everyone knows the big change came between 1973-75, but after 1977, his voice began to fluctuate again.
On Match Point of Our Love, his voice sounds ok, but on Lazy Lizzie, his voice is back to all raspy. And his voice continued fluctuating until about 1982, where he settled in to his 80s voice.
He retained this voice until around 1995, where it began deepening again. Listen to the 1988 version of Love and Mercy, than the 1995 version.
His voice settled to what we know now around 1997-1998
His voice still sounded a little squeaky in 1995, the original version of You're Still A Mystery can be taken as a proof of the way he used to sound in the mid-90's


Title: Re: Brianís voice at its absolute roughest
Post by: juggler on March 07, 2020, 03:01:52 PM
His voice started changing around 1969. Listen to When a Man Needs a Woman, recorded 1968, then Good Time, recorded 1969. The difference is extremely small, but you can here it.
You can really here the difference between 1970 and 1971. Listen to the first 4 lines of Take a Load Off Your Feet, recorded 1970, then to his part in Springís Sweet Mountain. His voice had deepened a lot.
Obviously, everyone knows the big change came between 1973-75, but after 1977, his voice began to fluctuate again.
On Match Point of Our Love, his voice sounds ok, but on Lazy Lizzie, his voice is back to all raspy. And his voice continued fluctuating until about 1982, where he settled in to his 80s voice.
He retained this voice until around 1995, where it began deepening again. Listen to the 1988 version of Love and Mercy, than the 1995 version.
His voice settled to what we know now around 1997-1998

After being liberated from Landy circa 1992, Brian started smoking cigarettes again. Not sure exactly how heavily or for how long but there's a video interview of him circa 1994 where he's smoking.  IIRC, he lated mentioned Melinda making him quit after they got married which was 1995, I think.   The smoking habit during that period likely affected his voice.  I remember when the Orange Crate Art and IJWMFTT soundrack albums came out, fans were pretty shocked at how much his voice had changed from 1988-89.


Title: Re: Brianís voice at its absolute roughest
Post by: DeanEntwistle on March 07, 2020, 03:12:17 PM
His voice started changing around 1969. Listen to When a Man Needs a Woman, recorded 1968, then Good Time, recorded 1969. The difference is extremely small, but you can here it.
You can really here the difference between 1970 and 1971. Listen to the first 4 lines of Take a Load Off Your Feet, recorded 1970, then to his part in Springís Sweet Mountain. His voice had deepened a lot.
Obviously, everyone knows the big change came between 1973-75, but after 1977, his voice began to fluctuate again.
On Match Point of Our Love, his voice sounds ok, but on Lazy Lizzie, his voice is back to all raspy. And his voice continued fluctuating until about 1982, where he settled in to his 80s voice.
He retained this voice until around 1995, where it began deepening again. Listen to the 1988 version of Love and Mercy, than the 1995 version.
His voice settled to what we know now around 1997-1998

After being liberated from Landy circa 1992, Brian started smoking cigarettes again. Not sure exactly how heavily or for how long but there's a video interview of him circa 1994 where he's smoking.  IIRC, he lated mentioned Melinda making him quit after they got married which was 1995, I think.   The smoking habit during that period likely affected his voice.  I remember when the Orange Crate Art and IJWMFTT soundrack albums came out, fans were pretty shocked at how much his voice had changed from 1988-89.
yeah, he can be seen smoking in an interview made to Mike and him (separately) after a Dancing the Night Away/Baywatch Nights session


Title: Re: Brianís voice at its absolute roughest
Post by: Lonely Summer on March 08, 2020, 09:22:19 PM
His voice started changing around 1969. Listen to When a Man Needs a Woman, recorded 1968, then Good Time, recorded 1969. The difference is extremely small, but you can here it.
You can really here the difference between 1970 and 1971. Listen to the first 4 lines of Take a Load Off Your Feet, recorded 1970, then to his part in Springís Sweet Mountain. His voice had deepened a lot.
Obviously, everyone knows the big change came between 1973-75, but after 1977, his voice began to fluctuate again.
On Match Point of Our Love, his voice sounds ok, but on Lazy Lizzie, his voice is back to all raspy. And his voice continued fluctuating until about 1982, where he settled in to his 80s voice.
He retained this voice until around 1995, where it began deepening again. Listen to the 1988 version of Love and Mercy, than the 1995 version.
His voice settled to what we know now around 1997-1998
Hmm...I don't notice much change from 1988 to 95.

After being liberated from Landy circa 1992, Brian started smoking cigarettes again. Not sure exactly how heavily or for how long but there's a video interview of him circa 1994 where he's smoking.  IIRC, he lated mentioned Melinda making him quit after they got married which was 1995, I think.   The smoking habit during that period likely affected his voice.  I remember when the Orange Crate Art and IJWMFTT soundrack albums came out, fans were pretty shocked at how much his voice had changed from 1988-89.


Title: Re: Brianís voice at its absolute roughest
Post by: c-man on March 08, 2020, 10:06:19 PM
Folks, if you listen to the whole thing, the interviewer mentions at one point that Brian had said he was suffering a mild case of laryngitis on this day. That explains the quieter tone of his voice - in contrast to other interviews of the era (like the Old Grey Whistle Test from two years prior, or the Portrait Of A Legend thing from around that time, or on 20/20 in 1980). His voice is "rough" in all of them, compared to his '60s voice, and that's obviously due to booze/dope/smokes. What's unique about THIS one is the almost whispery tone - which I attribute to a legitimate case of laryngitis.


Title: Re: Brianís voice at its absolute roughest
Post by: Sound of Free on March 09, 2020, 05:13:43 PM
Sad to see Carl in rough shape, too. He wipes his nose with his hand then looks at his hand. I'm not sure if he's looking for blood or cocaine.