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Title: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Matt H on June 04, 2012, 03:27:54 PM
Just saw that this will be on 6-16, I guess they changed the title and the date.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: bgas on June 04, 2012, 04:33:14 PM
Just saw that this will be on 6-16, I guess they changed the title and the date.

Will that be shown the same date everywhere?


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Emdeeh on June 04, 2012, 04:45:18 PM
It's not running in Atlanta at all...  :'(




Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: ivy on June 04, 2012, 04:53:32 PM
My local listings (Bay Area, CA) is saying it won't be airing for us til July.


The Beach Boys: Doing It Again (#110H) Duration: 56:10 STEREO TVG
The legendary group reunite to celebrate their 50th anniversary (2012) with a look back at their career featuring never-before-seen archival concert footage, performances from their anniversary tour plus the recording of their new album That's Why God Made The Radio.

Channels and Airdates:
KQED Plus
Thu, Jul 5, 2012 -- 11:00pm   
Fri, Jul 6, 2012 -- 5:00am   
KQED 9
Sat, Jul 14, 2012 -- 6:00pm   


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Pretty Funky on June 04, 2012, 04:57:59 PM
Just saw that this will be on 6-16, I guess they changed the title and the date.

Will that be shown the same date everywhere?

http://www.vpt.org/show/19059/110/Front%20Row%20Center

This site says June 23

As they say, 'check listings for your area!'


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Justin on June 04, 2012, 08:45:08 PM
My local listings (Bay Area, CA) is saying it won't be airing for us til July.


The Beach Boys: Doing It Again (#110H) Duration: 56:10 STEREO TVG
The legendary group reunite to celebrate their 50th anniversary (2012) with a look back at their career featuring never-before-seen archival concert footage, performances from their anniversary tour plus the recording of their new album That's Why God Made The Radio.

Channels and Airdates:
KQED Plus
Thu, Jul 5, 2012 -- 11:00pm   
Fri, Jul 6, 2012 -- 5:00am   
KQED 9
Sat, Jul 14, 2012 -- 6:00pm   


From the sound of it--it'll be a hodgepodge of archival concert footage mixed in with the new tour footage.  I hope this isn't the only possible DVD release we get of this tour.  I want a straight ahead 2 hour DVD concert not excerpts from the tour. 


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: bgas on June 04, 2012, 08:48:50 PM
My local listings (Bay Area, CA) is saying it won't be airing for us til July.


The Beach Boys: Doing It Again (#110H) Duration: 56:10 STEREO TVG
The legendary group reunite to celebrate their 50th anniversary (2012) with a look back at their career featuring never-before-seen archival concert footage, performances from their anniversary tour plus the recording of their new album That's Why God Made The Radio.

Channels and Airdates:
KQED Plus
Thu, Jul 5, 2012 -- 11:00pm   
Fri, Jul 6, 2012 -- 5:00am   
KQED 9
Sat, Jul 14, 2012 -- 6:00pm   


From the sound of it--it'll be a hodgepodge of archival concert footage mixed in with the new tour footage.  I hope this isn't the only possible DVD release we get of this tour.  I want a straight ahead 2 hour DVD concert not excerpts from the tour. 

That comes later, after the tour; packaged with a leftover T-shirt, and a non-concert date poster for $112


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: NatureShowInStereo on June 05, 2012, 12:48:40 AM
How do I find out when it's playing in my area? Is there a long term tv guide anywhere?


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: ivy on June 05, 2012, 09:14:26 AM
How do I find out when it's playing in my area? Is there a long term tv guide anywhere?

Find the website for your local PBS station and start searching around.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: atroxi on June 05, 2012, 09:36:31 AM
The show is actually being distributed by American Public Television, which is a distributor of shows to public television stations but is unrelated to the PBS network.  That's why not all PBS stations are carrying it - it's something they have to buy into as opposed to regular PBS network programming.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: HeyJude on June 05, 2012, 11:30:43 AM
The show is actually being distributed by American Public Television, which is a distributor of shows to public television stations but is unrelated to the PBS network.  That's why not all PBS stations are carrying it - it's something they have to buy into as opposed to regular PBS network programming.

Ahhh, very interesting. Thanks for that piece of information!


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: HeyJude on June 05, 2012, 11:31:41 AM
My local listings (Bay Area, CA) is saying it won't be airing for us til July.


The Beach Boys: Doing It Again (#110H) Duration: 56:10 STEREO TVG
The legendary group reunite to celebrate their 50th anniversary (2012) with a look back at their career featuring never-before-seen archival concert footage, performances from their anniversary tour plus the recording of their new album That's Why God Made The Radio.

Channels and Airdates:
KQED Plus
Thu, Jul 5, 2012 -- 11:00pm   
Fri, Jul 6, 2012 -- 5:00am   
KQED 9
Sat, Jul 14, 2012 -- 6:00pm   


I think my cable company has one of the two KQED channels in HD, the other not, so that's cool if it's airing on both so I can capture it in HD.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: HeyJude on June 05, 2012, 11:34:07 AM

From the sound of it--it'll be a hodgepodge of archival concert footage mixed in with the new tour footage.  I hope this isn't the only possible DVD release we get of this tour.  I want a straight ahead 2 hour DVD concert not excerpts from the tour. 

The one time Mike mentioned that they are doing a tour DVD, he seemed to mention in as a seperate project from the PBS TV special. I think the live DVD was mentioned as combining multiple shows. I think this PBS thing is a shorter thing that will focus on making the album and sprinkle in some old footage and a few songs from the St. Augustine show from, what day was it, May 3rd or so? They showed a few clips of this during the Charlie Rose interview.

Hopefully they'll capture some later shows for the DVD; shows after St. Augustine, as they've added some cool songs since then.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: NatureShowInStereo on June 06, 2012, 03:38:34 PM
Didn't see anything about this on my local pbs site  ???


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: pixletwin on June 06, 2012, 03:44:16 PM
Here is a good site to check to see it will be airing on your local PBS station:

http://www.locatetv.com/tv/front-row-center/7607853

Nothing in utah :(


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: NatureShowInStereo on June 06, 2012, 10:15:34 PM
Here is a good site to check to see it will be airing on your local PBS station:

http://www.locatetv.com/tv/front-row-center/7607853

Nothing in utah :(

"Not currently showing on TV in Minnesota"
Oucheroo.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: SG7 on June 06, 2012, 10:30:03 PM
Looks like it's not showing in PA either  >:(


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on June 06, 2012, 10:51:06 PM
Or Texas. -_-


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: ivy on June 06, 2012, 10:58:36 PM
Guys, I don't think this site is accurate. It says it's not showing for me either while my PBS station site shows multiple airings in July.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: southbay on June 07, 2012, 09:09:00 AM
Or   California???


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Dwayne on June 07, 2012, 09:27:58 AM
Not showing in Oklahoma, nor does my local site show it to be playing:(


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: pixletwin on June 07, 2012, 09:29:53 AM
Bad site I guess. I'll be crossing my fingers it airs here in Utah.

Sorry for the bad link.  ;D


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Landlocked on June 07, 2012, 09:55:07 AM
First showing on Channel Thirteen (PBS in New York) is the 4th of July at 9:30 PM. Luckily I'm a loser with no social life, so being at home to watch public television on one of the biggest party/barbecue holidays of the year in the US will be no problem  :lol


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: ivy on June 07, 2012, 10:09:11 AM
First showing on Channel Thirteen (PBS in New York) is the 4th of July at 9:30 PM. Luckily I'm a loser with no social life, so being at home to watch public television on one of the biggest party/barbecue holidays of the year in the US will be no problem  :lol

Worry not, your internet friends will be here with you.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Dave Modny on June 07, 2012, 04:08:19 PM
While I use it from time-to-time, mostly for premium channels, LocateTV is notorious for being incomplete in certain parts of its calendar listings.

Here's the actual Front Row Center site. It has a "Where to Watch" section where you can plug in your info to see if it's airing in your area. For me, in Cleveland, it's not listed as airing on the local PBS affiliate (WVIZ), but it is listed as airing on Western Reserve Public TV (45/49) which serves the Akron-Kent area. Unfortunately, it's just airing in SD on one of their OTA sub-channels ("Fusion"), and it's slightly out of my outdoor antenna's range...unless I figure something else out.


http://www.aptonline.org/catalog.nsf/vLinkTitle/FRONT+ROW+CENTER


PS - Unless it's been noted already, I'll just mention that Front Row Center is being produced by Joe Thomas's company. The same folks who did the re-boot of Soundstage for PBS.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: superunison on June 07, 2012, 08:58:46 PM
Seriously, is anyone else finding it impossible to lock down any info on when this is going to be on? There's no centralized website for the show, I can't tell what station it will even be on in my area, time etc.... The aptonline site is not helping me at all really.  The where to watch function is not bringing up anything, not even a "not available in your area" result....If anyone can help, I live in Los Angeles CA! Home of The Beach Boys! Well, Glendale actually... A heads up would be much appreciated.  KCET? KOCE?


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Justin on June 07, 2012, 09:11:35 PM
It's most likely the new date that was mentioned earlier.  No doubt when the time comes you can expect some announcement on their Facebook to which someone will repost that confirmation here.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Dave Modny on June 07, 2012, 09:42:15 PM
The aptonline site is not helping me at all really.  The where to watch function is not bringing up anything, not even a "not available in your area" result....If anyone can help, I live in Los Angeles CA! Home of The Beach Boys! Well, Glendale actually... A heads up would be much appreciated.  KCET? KOCE?

It worked perfectly for me when I put a Los Angeles Zip code into the Where To Watch drop-down. Front Row Center airs on both on KLCS and KOCE (on an OTA sub-channel for KOCE). However, they only go a few weeks into the future with their schedule, so they may (or may not) be running it on those channels at a later date in your area. That is, it appears some folks are getting it  in July. So, you should probably keep checking back there from time-to-time. :)


Here's the upcoming airdates for FRC episodes  on those two stations.

KOCE (sub-channel 50.2)

PBS - OC | Channel #: 50.2

FRI, JUN 8
Phil Collins: Going Back - Live at the Roseland Ballroom   11:00 AM
SAT, JUN 9
Phil Collins: Going Back - Live at the Roseland Ballroom   08:00 AM
SUN, JUN 10
Train   8:00 PM
MON, JUN 11
   08:00 AM
WED, JUN 13
Train   9:00 PM
FRI, JUN 15
Train   11:00 AM
SAT, JUN 16
Train   08:00 AM
SUN, JUN 17
Moby   8:00 PM
MON, JUN 18
   08:00 AMWED, JUN 20
Moby   9:00 PM
FRI, JUN 22
Moby   11:00 AM
SAT, JUN 23
Moby   08:00 AM


KLCS ( 58.1)


KLCS | Channel #: 58.1
FRI, JUN 8
Cheap Trick   10:00 PM
SAT, JUN 9
Cheap Trick   04:00 AM
FRI, JUN 15
O.A.R.   10:00 PM
FRI, JUN 22
Bachman & Turner   10:00 PM



Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: HeyJude on June 08, 2012, 05:14:56 PM
The KQED (San Francisco) website has updated info for the BB episode (which my cable on-screen guide confirms):

KQED Plus
Sun, Jun 10, 2012 -- 11:00pm
Mon, Jun 11, 2012 -- 5:00am
Thu, Jul 5, 2012 -- 11:00pm
Fri, Jul 6, 2012 -- 5:00am 
KQED 9
Sat, Jul 14, 2012 -- 6:00pm

So it looks like on this station, we'll get to see it on Sunday night if you have the "Plus" station. I get that station, but for some reason it's not in HD, while the main "9" station is, so I guess I'll have a crack at seeing in HD in July.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Lisa Bonahue on June 08, 2012, 07:02:37 PM
If you live in the NY area it is supposed to be on tomorrow night (Saturday) on WMHT channel 15 at 8PM according to the schedule  :)




(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m100/lbonahue/Smiley%20Smile/WMHTSchedule.jpg)


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: JanBerryFarm on June 08, 2012, 07:35:44 PM
It took some detective work, but.......for all you Oregonian BB people......

Saturday July 14th is the air date for (OPB) Oregon Public Broadcastings slot for the Beach Boys. In an incredibley short-sighted and selfish move, OPB selected the same night that THE BEACH BOYS perform live here, in Eugene, Or.

Go figure.

Then, in another superb bit of public (AND GOVERNMENTAL) funded scheduling, they see fit to run it again, the following Monday morning, July 16th, at 4:00 AM!

Cool, eh ? Thanks alot, OH-PEE-BEE.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Bubba Ho-Tep on June 08, 2012, 08:01:24 PM
If you live in the NY area it is supposed to be on tomorrow night (Saturday) on WMHT channel 15 at 8PM according to the schedule  :)




(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m100/lbonahue/Smiley%20Smile/WMHTSchedule.jpg)

So we get to see it before everyone else?  >:D


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Mikie on June 08, 2012, 08:26:18 PM
The KQED (San Francisco) website has updated info for the BB episode (which my cable on-screen guide confirms):

KQED Plus
Sun, Jun 10, 2012 -- 11:00pm
Mon, Jun 11, 2012 -- 5:00am
Thu, Jul 5, 2012 -- 11:00pm
Fri, Jul 6, 2012 -- 5:00am 
KQED 9
Sat, Jul 14, 2012 -- 6:00pm

So it looks like on this station, we'll get to see it on Sunday night if you have the "Plus" station. I get that station, but for some reason it's not in HD, while the main "9" station is, so I guess I'll have a crack at seeing in HD in July.

Don't know what "KQED Plus" is, but I get KQED Channel 9 and KQED Channel 9.1 (HD). The provider is Comcast.

Thanks for the heads-up, Jude!  Weird hours though.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Dave Modny on June 08, 2012, 09:11:17 PM

Don't know what "KQED Plus" is, but I get KQED Channel 9 and KQED Channel 9.1 (HD). The provider is Comcast.


KQED Plus is a standard-def, digital sub-channel. Most cable providers don't carry sub-channels, so the only way to get it is OTA with an antenna (and obviously a digital TV tuner or DTV converter box). :)

Sort of sad that the show is shot in HD and so many PBS affiliates are only showing it on one of their SD sub-channels (and those are usually fairly compressed), if they're even showing it at all. As noted, it's a purchased show, but it's such a waste to put it there.

You folks getting it in HD are lucky. Hopefully, somebody will grab it.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Bubba Ho-Tep on June 09, 2012, 09:13:14 PM
Nice program. Classy looking. Guitar lesson from David Marks. Extended footage of GV sessions. Couple of performances mixed in. Funny story from Bruce regarding Denny and some miners.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: the professor on June 09, 2012, 11:20:24 PM
anyone have the LA show times?


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Mitch on June 10, 2012, 08:46:43 AM
Looking forward to seeing the PBS show.  Saw them in Bethlehem,Pa. Inspiring.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Dove Nested Towers on June 11, 2012, 12:59:50 AM
Just stumbled across most of the show here in SF on PBS, missed the beginning. Pretty standard career retrospective, tour footage interspersed. Nice new footage of Brian playing WIBN beautifully on piano (somewhat marred by voice-over), & playing & singing the tag. His interview segments at the piano, reminiscing about his relationship with Paul McCartney etc. are extremely relaxed & animated. Highlight is the full silent GV session footage, wedded to the single and studio chatter. Probably edited by Alan Boyd, fine job. Can't remember whether 100% of this footage accompanies GV live on the tour (most of it does), wasn't watching the monitor at the beginning of the song at the concert I attended. Seems to almost definitely be more here, perhaps the 1st time it's been seen in its entirety. The beginning esp. is astonishing, Brian's presence is seething with fervor and is absolutely mesmerizing in its intensity and passion. SUCH amazing footage! Want to see this portion of the show again (repeatedly).


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: HeyJude on June 11, 2012, 01:32:09 PM
Watched this last night. It was okay. Certainly the most BB content I've seen broadcast on TV in ages. It was a bit of "history of the band" doc, a bit of "making of the album", and a bit of new live footage. Not enough of any of those categories to make this a great TV special, but it was nice.

The history of the band didn't have much new info, maybe a story here or there. The "archival footage" was mostly common stuff we've seen, with the exception of the B&W videotape footage over the credits of Bruce, Carl, Al, and Mike circa '71 or '72 singing "Their Hearts Were Full of Spring."

The new live footage looked okay. Sounded like plenty of mixing was done to make it all sound a bit more sharp. Dunno how much literal post-production was done, as in post-show overdubbing. The only song that sounded really weird was "That's Why God Made the Radio", where it sounded like they took the live recording, and then dubbed back in some of the backing vocals from the studio recording. It didn't sound like post-production overdubbing, as the cadence and delivery of some of the backing vocals was identical to the studio recording.  The other songs didn't sound too weird I suppose.

I certainly hope and eventual DVD sounds better, as they did get tighter as the shows went on. The camera work was a bit annoying just in terms of too many twisty crane shots. Kind of overly-staged looking close-ups.

But it was cool to see everything.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: HeyJude on June 11, 2012, 01:33:26 PM
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Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Mikie on June 11, 2012, 08:05:31 PM
I tuned into PBS at 11pm last night like the schedule said, and there was was no Beach Boys. Some other show was on. Don't know what you guys watched, but I saw some show about nutritious food.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Dave Modny on June 11, 2012, 10:11:31 PM
I tuned into PBS at 11pm last night like the schedule said, and there was was no Beach Boys. Some other show was on. Don't know what you guys watched, but I saw some show about nutritious food.


Did you tune into the KQED Plus subchannel? Again, according to the schedule above, it wasn't on the main San Fran PBS channel on the 10th. :)

On the other hand, as also noted in the above schedule, it appears that it will be on the main PBS channel in July for your area (i.e. KQED 9 - Sat, Jul 14, 2012 -- 6:00pm).


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Mikie on June 11, 2012, 10:40:16 PM
Yeah, I guess I don't get the subchannel, Dave.  Just KQED 9 and 9.1.  I'll wait for the July airing. Thanks for the heads up! Maybe this show will end up on a DVD or something in the future.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Dave Modny on June 11, 2012, 10:57:03 PM
Yeah, I guess I don't get the subchannel, Dave.  Just KQED 9 and 9.1.  I'll wait for the July airing. Thanks for the heads up! Maybe this show will end up on a DVD or something in the future.

Hi Mikie,

For future reference, you might get the KQED subchannels on Comcast in San Fran. That is, I found a Comcast-San Francisco channel lineup that shows the Plus channel. Jude would probably know for sure, as I believe he's in the SF area as well. Anyway, you'll probably be better off with that July airing on the main channel (assuming it's correct), as it will be in HD and at a higher native bitrate.


For me, I finally got my antenna situation straightened out, so hopefully I'll be able to pull it in here in Cleveland, over-the-air, from the Akron PBS channel this upcoming Saturday (also on a  standard-def subchannel). I have Dish Network, and they don't carry any subchannels. :)


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: STE on June 11, 2012, 11:26:52 PM


Thanks for the reports!!

Now the question is the usual...  did anyone record it?




Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Dave Modny on June 11, 2012, 11:33:26 PM
The only song that sounded really weird was "That's Why God Made the Radio", where it sounded like they took the live recording, and then dubbed back in some of the backing vocals from the studio recording. It didn't sound like post-production overdubbing, as the cadence and delivery of some of the backing vocals was identical to the studio recording. 

This sounds similar to what they did with the song for the Sirius concert as well. I'm truly looking forward to catching the new special on Saturday.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: KittyKat on June 11, 2012, 11:59:46 PM
I have family in San Jose and they get confused by it too but KQED Plus is a new name for Channel 54 in San Jose and it  has always been their PBS channel there.  KQED in San Fran bought the San Jose station out a few years ago and now they changed the name to KQED Plus in the past couple of years but it's still broadcast on Channel 54 if you have an antenna.  I think they changed their tower so people all over the area can get it similar to what Channel 11 did when they were bought by NBC.  It's not a digital sub but a regular channel.  If you have cable the channel is on Channel 10 on most cable systems. Or look to see where they have Channel 54 if it's not on Channel 10. 


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Dave Modny on June 12, 2012, 01:16:13 AM
I have family in San Jose and they get confused by it too but KQED Plus is a new name for Channel 54 in San Jose and it  has always been their PBS channel there.  KQED in San Fran bought the San Jose station out a few years ago and now they changed the name to KQED Plus in the past couple of years but it's still broadcast on Channel 54 if you have an antenna.  I think they changed their tower so people all over the area can get it similar to what Channel 11 did when they were bought by NBC.  It's not a digital sub but a regular channel.  If you have cable the channel is on Channel 10 on most cable systems. Or look to see where they have Channel 54 if it's not on Channel 10.  


Hi KittyKat,

Is it possible that in the direct San Fran market that the Plus channel is still available as an OTA digital subchannel? That is, according to the RabbitEarsInfo site (which is updated on a regular basis and which I use all the time), it's still showing KQED Plus as a digital sub in the San Fran area -- 9.2 digital...or 30.2 as a physical channel -- albeit with the call letters that you reference. Also, it shows in the notes as KQEH, channel 54, which it appears is indeed the San Jose mirror that you're talking about (i.e. they simply mirror the digital sub over to the main San Jose- 54 channel and use those same KQEH call letters...both 480i standard def). Thus, it appears to be available both ways depending on where one is located. :)

Click on KQED here...and simply follow the trail:

http://www.rabbitears.info/market.php?mktid=6


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: southbay on June 12, 2012, 08:03:50 AM
The only song that sounded really weird was "That's Why God Made the Radio", where it sounded like they took the live recording, and then dubbed back in some of the backing vocals from the studio recording. It didn't sound like post-production overdubbing, as the cadence and delivery of some of the backing vocals was identical to the studio recording.

This sounds similar to what they did with the song for the Sirius concert as well. I'm truly looking forward to catching the new special on Saturday.

What new special on Saturday???


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Dave Modny on June 12, 2012, 09:16:15 AM

What new special on Saturday???

The one we're talking about in this thread -- Front Row Center on PBS. It's airing on Saturday night in my area. :)



Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: KittyKat on June 12, 2012, 09:22:32 AM
I have family in San Jose and they get confused by it too but KQED Plus is a new name for Channel 54 in San Jose and it  has always been their PBS channel there.  KQED in San Fran bought the San Jose station out a few years ago and now they changed the name to KQED Plus in the past couple of years but it's still broadcast on Channel 54 if you have an antenna.  I think they changed their tower so people all over the area can get it similar to what Channel 11 did when they were bought by NBC.  It's not a digital sub but a regular channel.  If you have cable the channel is on Channel 10 on most cable systems. Or look to see where they have Channel 54 if it's not on Channel 10.  


Hi KittyKat,

Is it possible that in the direct San Fran market that the Plus channel is still available as an OTA digital subchannel? That is, according to the RabbitEarsInfo site (which is updated on a regular basis and which I use all the time), it's still showing KQED Plus as a digital sub in the San Fran area -- 9.2 digital...or 30.2 as a physical channel -- albeit with the call letters that you reference. Also, it shows in the notes as KQEH, channel 54, which it appears is indeed the San Jose mirror that you're talking about (i.e. they simply mirror the digital sub over to the main San Jose- 54 channel and use those same KQEH call letters...both 480i standard def). Thus, it appears to be available both ways depending on where one is located. :)

Click on KQED here...and simply follow the trail:

http://www.rabbitears.info/market.php?mktid=6

I didn't know the details.  I just know I have an aunt in San Jose who got confused when her Channel 54 PBS station started calling itself KQED Plus.  I think she already got KQED from SF on her cable and then there was KQED Plus where whatever Channel 54 in San Jose was on.  I just know KQED Plus is still Channel 54 in San Jose but from what you found it seems people who use antennas in SF get it on 9.1.  It gets confusing for people looking for shows on the schedules on two different channels with the same letters in their name.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: southbay on June 12, 2012, 10:38:20 AM

What new special on Saturday???

The one we're talking about in this thread -- Front Row Center on PBS. It's airing on Saturday night in my area. :)



Oh.  


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: ontor pertawst on June 12, 2012, 10:40:26 AM
Has anybody figured out if any of the channels or subchannels in the LA area are airing it this month? The schedules don't go too far. Moan. Whimper.

OHFORGAWD'SSAKEWHERE'STHETORRENT....


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Mikie on June 12, 2012, 10:44:48 AM
OK, it's a little clearer now.  For PBS, KQED in S.F. is on Channel 9 regular and 9.1 HD Digital.  PBS is also locally broadcast on Channel 54 in San Jose. I didn't think to try Channel 54 last Sunday to see if it was on; I just assumed it was going to be on Channel 9 KQED since that's the most popular PBS station and the one that broadcasts all over the Bay Area. I haven't even watched Channel 54 (a UHF station) since I got my new flatscreen TV last year with HD/digital channels.

So........I'll just wait until next month to watch it on KQED.

Thanks for the info. guys!


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Dave Modny on June 12, 2012, 12:56:02 PM
Has anybody figured out if any of the channels or subchannels in the LA area are airing it this month? The schedules don't go too far. Moan. Whimper.

OHFORGAWD'SSAKEWHERE'STHETORRENT....

Hi Ontor,

So far, as I noted in an earlier post and from what I can see, KLCS runs Front Row Center on their main PBS channel, and KOCE runs it on one of their digital subchannels ("PBS OC"). Unfortunately, they're only running the respective episodes below in June. I also verified on both of their websites that the schedules only run until the end of the June.  Perhaps July?

I guess you could always e-mail them to ask if it's indeed penciled in for next month? I harass my PBS station here in Cleveland all the time for schedule info...lol. :)


KOCE (sub-channel 50.2)

PBS - OC | Channel #: 50.2

FRI, JUN 8
Phil Collins: Going Back - Live at the Roseland Ballroom   11:00 AM
SAT, JUN 9
Phil Collins: Going Back - Live at the Roseland Ballroom   08:00 AM
SUN, JUN 10
Train   8:00 PM
MON, JUN 11
   08:00 AM
WED, JUN 13
Train   9:00 PM
FRI, JUN 15
Train   11:00 AM
SAT, JUN 16
Train   08:00 AM
SUN, JUN 17
Moby   8:00 PM
MON, JUN 18
   08:00 AMWED, JUN 20
Moby   9:00 PM
FRI, JUN 22
Moby   11:00 AM
SAT, JUN 23
Moby   08:00 AM


KLCS ( 58.1)


KLCS | Channel #: 58.1
FRI, JUN 8
Cheap Trick   10:00 PM
SAT, JUN 9
Cheap Trick   04:00 AM
FRI, JUN 15
O.A.R.   10:00 PM
FRI, JUN 22
Bachman & Turner   10:00 PM


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Rocker on June 12, 2012, 12:58:03 PM


Thanks for the reports!!

Now the question is the usual...  did anyone record it?






Or will anyone for that matter ? I guess I won't have a chance to see it in Germany


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: ontor pertawst on June 12, 2012, 01:03:16 PM
Wait WEEKS? Ok, somebody please record this. I'm doing Bela Lugosi hand gestures, so you should feel compelled if you don't already.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: send me a picture and i'll tell you on June 13, 2012, 05:41:44 AM
Are you sure they're not Brian Wilson hand gestures?

OK-- WHEN IS THIS FUC KER ON OVER-THE-AIR IN PITTSBURGH?? Is it still even called Front Row Center?  I swear the WQED-13 website was designed in 1993. And I can't find SH!T on that stupid site.  

Sorry about the rant.  I haven't looked at the television much in several years, and searching listings for one already-delayed show in a sea of 50000000000000 channels is beyond me.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Zach95 on June 26, 2012, 09:34:38 PM
I'll ask what others have again. Anyone ever get around to recording this?


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: ohthosegirls on June 28, 2012, 06:59:25 PM
This is airing tomorrow night at 10 pm in Detroit. Have people seen this yet?


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Zach95 on June 28, 2012, 08:13:33 PM
This is airing tomorrow night at 10 pm in Detroit. Have people seen this yet?

RECORD IT!

Please  :angel:


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Bubba Ho-Tep on June 28, 2012, 08:14:24 PM
I'll ask what others have again. Anyone ever get around to recording this?

I did....on VHS!  >:D


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Zach95 on June 28, 2012, 08:16:42 PM
I'll ask what others have again. Anyone ever get around to recording this?

I did....on VHS!  >:D

Gosh darn you!  :angry


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: jeffcdo on June 28, 2012, 09:12:54 PM
I still can't find a listing for this in HD in the Los Angeles area.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Heysaboda on June 28, 2012, 10:06:51 PM
I'll ask what others have again. Anyone ever get around to recording this?

I did....on VHS!  >:D

why not 8 track??

 :P


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Heysaboda on June 28, 2012, 10:13:49 PM

Okay, in the LA/Orange County area, in the next week, there are several PBS  listings for Front Row Center, but those episodes are for Cheap Trick, Richard Marx, and T-Bone Burnette with Elvis Costello and Jakob Dylan.  NO Beach Boys show listed yet!

 >:(


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: jeffcdo on June 28, 2012, 10:20:53 PM
My DVR shows a listing for KLCS at 10-11p on July 6, repeating at 4am on July 7, but nothing in HD (yet).


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Jay on June 28, 2012, 10:28:02 PM
I did a program search on my cable box for this, and I can't find it anywhere. Will this be on dvd eventually?


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: ohthosegirls on June 29, 2012, 05:51:53 AM
I wish I knew how to record it and upload it to a computer! My computer is almost 10 years old and slow though, and I don't even have a dvr!


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: ohthosegirls on June 29, 2012, 08:09:10 PM
I just caught the last half hour of this, pretty cool. A lot of extended interviews from the Vevo videos, Good Vibrations recording footage, Dennis & Carl tributes, 50th footage obviously and a great "Their Hearts Were Full Of Spring" clip from the early 70's with Bruce, Carl, Al & Mike to close it out! Awesome! Now I just have to wait until 3:30 am to watch the first half :/


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: coco1997 on June 29, 2012, 08:11:59 PM
AT&T U-verse in Chicago has it airing this Sunday at 11:00 PM.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: BiNNS on June 29, 2012, 09:01:48 PM
Just watched it. Pretty good stuff. Brian, during a solo interview segment, seemed  to have a lot more life in him (so to speak) than i've seen in quite some time. There was also about 20 seconds or so of what i'm assuming was a cut that didn't make it onto TWGMTR. Sounded really nice. The black and white GV footage was a real treat to watch. Brian looked so intense in some of those shots.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: ohthosegirls on June 30, 2012, 06:30:41 AM
I agree. I woke up and was able to catch about ten minutes more and that GV footage, he just looks like he knows what's up and super focused. He knows he's into something special. The other guys don't give off that intense vibe like that, but seem to be having fun. Hal Blaine seems super into it. Those solo segments seem older, maybe because Brian's hair wasn't as grey. I liked the unreleased background cut a lot too. Maybe that's part of the suite?


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: BiNNS on June 30, 2012, 07:56:47 AM
Quote
Those solo segments seem older, maybe because Brian's hair wasn't as grey.

That's what i was thinking too. I thought maybe it was just the lighting because, as i can recall, there were no other older interview clips aired on the special.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: seltaeb1012002 on June 30, 2012, 07:58:50 AM
Ah man, this is torture being that I don't own a TV.

Looking forward to the DVD release


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: orange22 on June 30, 2012, 11:03:07 PM
Ah man, this is torture being that I don't own a TV.

Looking forward to the DVD release

Bro. Just do a mix of Surf's Up with the Colonel's March, and I will send you a TV. Standard definition, of course.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: coco1997 on July 01, 2012, 09:46:22 PM
I wonder what that song was that didn't make TWGMTR. It sounded very pretty. Perhaps "I'd Go Anywhere"?


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Justin on July 01, 2012, 11:22:08 PM
I still can't find a listing for this in HD in the Los Angeles area.

Front Row Center
The Beach Boys: Doing it Again
The reunited Beach Boys celebrate their 50th anniversary. Included: archival concert clips; footage from their anniversary tour; the recording of their album "That's Why God Made the Radio."
next broadcast:
Friday, July 06  —  10:00pm
Channel 58
Channel 58.1 HD

http://www.klcs.org/0309/tvschedule.htm


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: jeffcdo on July 02, 2012, 10:06:51 AM
Thanks Justin!  Unfortunately my cable provider does not carry the subchannel, so still no HD.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: seltaeb1012002 on July 02, 2012, 10:28:08 AM
Ah man, this is torture being that I don't own a TV.

Looking forward to the DVD release

Bro. Just do a mix of Surf's Up with the Colonel's March, and I will send you a TV. Standard definition, of course.

LOL! Not sure if I'll be able to syncopate it to Murry's standards.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Rocker on July 02, 2012, 11:43:58 AM
Did anyone record it ?


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on July 02, 2012, 11:52:11 AM
How long is the special? My TV guide thing slots it in for an hour, but the description says 87 minutes.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: the professor on July 02, 2012, 12:18:55 PM
Thanks Justin!  Unfortunately my cable provider does not carry the subchannel, so still no HD.

my Time Warner cable in LA carries it only on channel 3, which is not HD either, Friday night at 10 pm.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: pixletwin on July 02, 2012, 01:10:03 PM
Still not airing in Utah. :(


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: bgas on July 02, 2012, 01:35:12 PM
Still not airing in Utah. :(

yeah, not in st. louis, either. tho we are getting phil collins


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: drbeachboy on July 02, 2012, 01:35:52 PM
For everyone in the Philadelphia and New Jersey viewing area, "Doing It Again" will air on NJN at 9:00pm on Sunday, July 8th.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Rocker on July 02, 2012, 01:53:56 PM
While we're at it, someone posted this on an Elvis message board. Don't have more infos:

VH1 will be showing Beach Boys programming all day on July 4.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on July 02, 2012, 02:17:03 PM
While we're at it, someone posted this on an Elvis message board. Don't have more infos:

VH1 will be showing Beach Boys programming all day on July 4.

12 hour marathon of An American Band, Brian Wilson Presents Pet Sounds Live, and Knebworth looped.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Rocker on July 02, 2012, 02:37:01 PM
While we're at it, someone posted this on an Elvis message board. Don't have more infos:

VH1 will be showing Beach Boys programming all day on July 4.

12 hour marathon of An American Band, Brian Wilson Presents Pet Sounds Live, and Knebworth looped.


Thank you ! Not too shabby.....


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: ahoutman1 on July 02, 2012, 06:36:04 PM
The only Front Row Center is of "Moby" for the next 8 days on my pbs


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: orange22 on July 03, 2012, 08:32:16 PM
Ah man, this is torture being that I don't own a TV.

Looking forward to the DVD release

Bro. Just do a mix of Surf's Up with the Colonel's March, and I will send you a TV. Standard definition, of course.

LOL! Not sure if I'll be able to syncopate it to Murry's standards.

That's true, I'll try to send you my custom Murry Ableton swing template.
Ken-tu-cky Fried SURF'S UP, it's sure to make your day


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Bud Shaver on July 03, 2012, 09:15:29 PM

It airs in Oregon on OPB the same night as the Eugene concert.


OPB Plus | Channel #: 310

SAT, JUL 14
The Beach Boys: Doing it Again
 8:00 PM

MON, JUL 16
The Beach Boys: Doing it Again
04:00 AM


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: MBE on July 05, 2012, 08:22:35 PM
When is this on in Chicago again? I have been trying to find out with no sucess.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: dumbangel76 on July 06, 2012, 08:07:41 PM
On August 4th on KLRU in Austin, TX area at 2am!!!! WTH!! >:(


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Justin on July 06, 2012, 11:02:07 PM
Just finished watching the show and have to say that it was really well done.  Once you let go of the idea that it's not a full concert show it really works as a great abbreviated and newer version of the "Endless Harmony" documentary (even though they glaze over a few key areas post Pet Sounds!).  Great interviews and everyone is represented pretty well.  There were only maybe 4 or 5 complete songs, the highlight being a good version of "Sail On Sailor"...can't wait for that one to appear on Youtube.  The concert footage wasn't as bad as I expected.  They could need some spicing up but it served its purpose in the context of this show.  But I do hope they film a NEW show for the DVD and not use one of these shows.  Brian was quite talkative in the newer interview pieces and it was very refreshing to see.  They used a few scenes from the interviews we've seen at Western and Ocean Way but there was a good addition of newer stuff.

This would not work so well as a single DVD release but would be a FANTASTIC bonus feature on the live DVD--which is where I hope to find it in the near future.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: stack-o-tracks on July 06, 2012, 11:56:35 PM
My TV guide is only showing the Front Row Center for Phil Collins.  :'(


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Rocker on July 07, 2012, 05:32:41 AM
(even though they glaze over a few key areas post Pet Sounds!). 

Just like Endless Harmony, I guess.....  ;)


Quote
good version of "Sail On Sailor"...can't wait for that one to appear on Youtube.

But wheeeeeeeen ?!  :( At least you U.S.- guys can watch it.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: dirwuf on July 07, 2012, 07:52:11 AM
...even though they glaze over a few key areas post Pet Sounds!...


That's putting it nicely, they literally skip everything between "Good Vibrations" and the new album....I don't even think "Smile" was mentioned.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: KittyKat on July 07, 2012, 11:09:43 AM
All of the concert vocals sound autotuned (including Mike, Brian, and the backing vocals), especially "Sail On, Sailor."  I didn't really enjoy the concert clips due to that.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: the professor on July 07, 2012, 11:10:13 AM
Just finished watching the show and have to say that it was really well done.  Once you let go of the idea that it's not a full concert show it really works as a great abbreviated and newer version of the "Endless Harmony" documentary (even though they glaze over a few key areas post Pet Sounds!).  Great interviews and everyone is represented pretty well.  There were only maybe 4 or 5 complete songs, the highlight being a good version of "Sail On Sailor"...can't wait for that one to appear on Youtube.  The concert footage wasn't as bad as I expected.  They could need some spicing up but it served its purpose in the context of this show.  But I do hope they film a NEW show for the DVD and not use one of these shows.  Brian was quite talkative in the newer interview pieces and it was very refreshing to see.  They used a few scenes from the interviews we've seen at Western and Ocean Way but there was a good addition of newer stuff.

This would not work so well as a single DVD release but would be a FANTASTIC bonus feature on the live DVD--which is where I hope to find it in the near future.

Right on, Justin. I enjoyed every minute, especially Dave demonstrating his and car's guitar parts for Surfin USA and also the strumming for Surfer girl. The life concert was supplemented with studio (album actually) overdubs or substitutions--that was obvious for the title track, but it sounds like they used as much of the actual recording live as they could, with the sound men likely having botched things and with the BB still unsure of the complex changes of TWGMTR.  Interviews were thoughtful, intimate, informative and warm.  Another great success and joy.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Justin on July 07, 2012, 12:01:21 PM
Right on, Justin. I enjoyed every minute, especially Dave demonstrating his and car's guitar parts for Surfin USA and also the strumming for Surfer girl. The life concert was supplemented with studio (album actually) overdubs or substitutions--that was obvious for the title track, but it sounds like they used as much of the actual recording live as they could, with the sound men likely having botched things and with the BB still unsure of the complex changes of TWGMTR.  Interviews were thoughtful, intimate, informative and warm.  Another great success and joy.

Oh man I forgot that part when Dave demonstrates his guitar parts, solo.  Yup that was excellent!  It was around that part when the show went up a few notches and made me sit up in my chair.  I knew that we were probably going to explore a couple cracks in the story that wasn't talked about before.

How about when Al asked Brian where did the idea for the theremin come from and without hesitation, Brian answered with lightning speed:  "From Carl!"  Mike gasped and did a double take and said "Carl, really??  I never knew that."  "Absolutely" said Brian.  Can't say that I ever knew that either.

But like you said, the program was a joy.  It got you pumped for the tour and got you interested in The Beach Boys all over again.  They did a great job with it!


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on July 07, 2012, 12:30:23 PM
Is the show an hour or an hour and a half? My TV Guide thing slots it in for only an hour, but the description says 87 minutes. I asked this before, sorry if I missed a previous answer.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Justin on July 07, 2012, 12:45:11 PM
Just an hour.



Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on July 07, 2012, 12:48:06 PM
Just an hour.



Thanks. Pledge breaks?


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Justin on July 07, 2012, 12:51:43 PM
...even though they glaze over a few key areas post Pet Sounds!...


That's putting it nicely, they literally skip everything between "Good Vibrations" and the new album....I don't even think "Smile" was mentioned.

Yeah considering how impressed I was with how they presented the story in the first half I was really looking forward how they would tackle everything after Pet Sounds.  They captured the members during some good moments because they were all contributing great segments in their interviews; everyone seemed relaxed and ready to talk.  But the only mention of the drama in the group was when Bruce was explaining the heavy load Brian had to carry saying "He wrote the songs, he arranged them, he produced them, he had to sing them..  No one can take that all on.  If you do--you collapse."  And that was it.  No mention of Brian's breakdown...they move on to another subject. 

Basically, the story they present here is the rated G version.  Fun and sun version of the story for those who don't want to get their hands dirty with the whole, complicated story.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Justin on July 07, 2012, 12:52:00 PM
Just an hour.



Thanks. Pledge breaks?

Nope!


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: mammy blue on July 07, 2012, 05:02:06 PM
Fellas, just FYI... this special is not so difficult to come by anymore. Where it rains, it pours.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: NatureShowInStereo on July 07, 2012, 09:13:11 PM
Fellas, just FYI... this special is not so difficult to come by anymore. Where it rains, it pours.

What does that mean? lol

Wait... I think I've cracked the code.  8)


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Jay on July 07, 2012, 10:21:24 PM
Any idea when this will be airing in Pennsylvania? My program guide still doesn't have it listed.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: drbeachboy on July 08, 2012, 05:18:55 AM
Any idea when this will be airing in Pennsylvania? My program guide still doesn't have it listed.
Tonight at 9pm if you are close enough to get NJTV.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Shady on July 08, 2012, 05:53:24 AM
Fellas, just FYI... this special is not so difficult to come by anymore. Where it rains, it pours.

Thanks, downloading now


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: STE on July 08, 2012, 06:58:35 AM

Very nice!!
My favorite moments:  Brian plays "Wouldn't It Be Nice" on the piano, the Sunflower-era "Their Hearts Were Full of Spring" and, of course, the "Good Vibrations" footage.


EDIT: and the unreleased suite sections!



Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: seltaeb1012002 on July 08, 2012, 07:44:48 AM
the Sunflower-era "Their Hearts Were Full of Spring"

Best part of the special! Anyone know exactly where this comes from? Looks like a press conference or something.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Malc on July 08, 2012, 08:43:04 AM
Loved it ! But would have been great to have seen a little bit more of the recent 'sessions' ...

(http://i46.tinypic.com/kcea9v.jpg)


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: STE on July 08, 2012, 10:15:36 AM
the Sunflower-era "Their Hearts Were Full of Spring"

Best part of the special! Anyone know exactly where this comes from? Looks like a press conference or something.


Looks to me like they are inside a bathtub!



Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: mammy blue on July 08, 2012, 10:53:30 AM
Overall I liked it, but only in Beach Boys Land could you release a box set to universal critical acclaim and then come out with a documentary 7 months later that avoids the topic (GV notwithstanding, I guess that amazing footage sort of makes up for it)...


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Rocker on July 08, 2012, 10:58:24 AM
Overall I liked it, but only in Beach Boys Land could you release a box set to universal critical acclaim and then come out with a documentary 7 months later that avoids the topic (GV notwithstanding, I guess that amazing footage sort of makes up for it)...


Yeah. I'm not a Smile freak who thinks that the Beach Boys are just about Pet Sounds and Smile but I'd really love if they would concentrate more on that. It was a recent hit album !
On the other hand maybe Brian doesn't want the Beach Boys to do it as he finished it with his band. Dunno...


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: guitarfool2002 on July 08, 2012, 11:01:32 AM
Overall I liked it, but only in Beach Boys Land could you release a box set to universal critical acclaim and then come out with a documentary 7 months later that avoids the topic (GV notwithstanding, I guess that amazing footage sort of makes up for it)...

Well no, it's great to see more of GV, but it actually doesn't make up for whitewashing Smile out of the story especially in light of the publicity the other band members did when promoting the box set. That series of Smile "Webisodes" on YouTube would suggest Mike, Bruce, and Al thought it was an important enough topic to tell very detailed and specific stories about Smile.

It does not make sense, as Smile is and was a big part of what kept a specific group of fans involved and actively interested in this band's music (and legend) during times when there was a general lack of anything "new" worth buying from The Beach Boys.

Perhaps it would be safe to assume the topic of Smile was raised, talked about in the freewheeling interview portions among the band, perhaps something was even planned to be included, but it got edited out of the final cut. The reasons why, if that is the case, are the mystery.

As if no one would notice the absence of Smile from a career overview... ;D


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Lowbacca on July 08, 2012, 12:24:40 PM
I'll watch it tonight - I'm psyched!


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: the professor on July 08, 2012, 12:28:58 PM
I must be slow, naive, and innocent. . . .can't locate any such video without downloading Trojan-corrupted applications to play it. I'll wait for official release of the video; I am just not savvy.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Ziggy Stardust on July 08, 2012, 12:44:54 PM
the Sunflower-era "Their Hearts Were Full of Spring"

Best part of the special! Anyone know exactly where this comes from? Looks like a press conference or something.

Havn't seen this Front Row Center Beach Boys Doing It Again stuff, but are you talking about this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so7lsV6i4V4 ?


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: STE on July 09, 2012, 04:22:09 AM
the Sunflower-era "Their Hearts Were Full of Spring"

Best part of the special! Anyone know exactly where this comes from? Looks like a press conference or something.

Havn't seen this Front Row Center Beach Boys Doing It Again stuff, but are you talking about this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so7lsV6i4V4 ?


No, different.
In this new clip they are literally sitting and singing inside a bathtub.


BTW, the footage of Bruce producing the re-recording of "She Believes in Love Again" and Jeff re-recording Carl's parts was also interesting to see.





Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Ziggy Stardust on July 09, 2012, 04:40:22 AM
the Sunflower-era "Their Hearts Were Full of Spring"

Best part of the special! Anyone know exactly where this comes from? Looks like a press conference or something.

Havn't seen this Front Row Center Beach Boys Doing It Again stuff, but are you talking about this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so7lsV6i4V4 ?


No, different.
In this new clip they are literally sitting and singing inside a bathtub.


BTW, the footage of Bruce producing the re-recording of "She Believes in Love Again" and Jeff re-recording Carl's parts was also interesting to see.





Wow this sounds interesting..
havn't checked all the pages of the thread yet but is there a link to rewatch this? i'm not in the USA atm.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Shady on July 09, 2012, 04:45:10 AM
the Sunflower-era "Their Hearts Were Full of Spring"

Best part of the special! Anyone know exactly where this comes from? Looks like a press conference or something.

Havn't seen this Front Row Center Beach Boys Doing It Again stuff, but are you talking about this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so7lsV6i4V4 ?


No, different.
In this new clip they are literally sitting and singing inside a bathtub.


BTW, the footage of Bruce producing the re-recording of "She Believes in Love Again" and Jeff re-recording Carl's parts was also interesting to see.





Wow this sounds interesting..
havn't checked all the pages of the thread yet but is there a link to rewatch this? i'm not in the USA atm.

Just type "the beach boys front row center hdtv" into google and you should easily find a download link.

Incredible doc, The Good Vibrations video footage never fails to amaze. When they were talking about the early days Brian seemed really alert and happy which is always good to see.

As for the live footage, I'm not a fan of the choice of venue but they rocked it none the less.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Ziggy Stardust on July 09, 2012, 04:47:25 AM
Thanks!


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on July 09, 2012, 06:55:03 AM
The talkative, excited Brian footage (black shirt at the piano) seems very old to me. It's not even in HD, so you know it wasn't filmed for this special.

I enjoyed the show, it was pretty cool. I feel like there should have been a lot more Brian though. He's talked about a lot, but hardly any new interview footage. Maybe he wasn't up for it at the time of filming, or maybe he was just reusing the same antedotes, dunno....

The bathtub footage was wicked cool! Wonder where that came from? I would have guessed it was some sort of obscure backstage home movie footage if they hadn't had  two camera angles.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Rocker on July 09, 2012, 07:03:58 AM
The talkative, excited Brian footage (black shirt at the piano) seems very old to me. It's not even in HD, so you know it wasn't filmed for this special.



I blieve it was filmed for his website as a making of for GIOMH.
One thing though that needs to be mentioned: imo the show still goes the Al-replaced-David route. It wasn't necessarily said that way by Al but it is edited so that it sounds like it.
Love it when Brian, David and Mike talk about what songs they covered in the early years


That bathtube footage is pure gold ! I wonder what else they found. We already got the GV-sessions footage, now this bathtube film. Hope for a new DVD


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Lowbacca on July 09, 2012, 03:04:30 PM
This "Front Row Center" episode now is one of the best BBs-related 'documentaries' out there, I think. Loads of cool stuff - anecdotes, behind-the-scenes, sessions etc.  :) And they finally got a few things right about the early history. Plus: lots of DM talking.  :police:

Quote from: Rocker
One thing though that needs to be mentioned: imo the show still goes the Al-replaced-David route. It wasn't necessarily said that way by Al but it is edited so that it sounds like it.
How do you mean? I thought it was portrayed pretty accurately here. As far as I noticed there were no factual errors. On the other hand I'm dead tired and if it weren't for the BBs I'd be in bed for a few hours.  :thud


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: pixletwin on July 09, 2012, 03:13:35 PM
I thought I had read elsewhere that Al was brought back in to replace Brian and Glen Campbell came in when David quit and then Bruce replaced him when his solo career was taking off. Confusing stuff, but that's how I understand it.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Lowbacca on July 09, 2012, 03:42:52 PM
I thought I had read elsewhere that Al was brought back in to replace Brian and Glen Campbell came in when David quit and then Bruce replaced him when his solo career was taking off. Confusing stuff, but that's how I understand it.
There was some time between Dave leaving and Campbell joining. But yeah, Al basically came back to complete the tour line-up.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: drbeachboy on July 09, 2012, 03:44:52 PM
Wasn't it Dave replaced Al, Al replaced Brian, Brian replaced Dave, Glen replaced Brian, Bruce replaced Glen?


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Lowbacca on July 09, 2012, 03:48:10 PM
There's an awesome board game that could be made out of this, I bet.........


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: pixletwin on July 09, 2012, 03:51:05 PM
There's an awesome board game that could be made out of this, I bet.........

It could be a new version of Twister!


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: drbeachboy on July 09, 2012, 03:55:38 PM
There's an awesome board game that could be made out of this, I bet.........

It could be a new version of Twister!
With all the mis-information around this new Twister could cause severe health issues. ;)


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Ziggy Stardust on July 09, 2012, 05:34:19 PM
Just finished watching the video! great great video!

i love the fact we learn some cool details, well at least, speaking for myself! like the fact that Carl came up with the idea for the theremin and cello on GV and that they played the live clip of Carl singing God Only Knows that they use at the concerts so we know it's the live vocals from the 1980 UK concert and not the studio one! i thought it was the studio one, hey this shows how beautiful Carl sounded no matter what, i deeply beleive Brian was right, not saying this because i'm BB fan or whatever, he truely was an outstanding singer! listen to this and to his Stevei Wonder cover I Was Made To Love Her, the guy was talented as hell!

I also love the little parts like, when Mike Love mentions Johnny Be Goode, you can truely see Brian getting all excited like the kid that is in him :)
and the final clip with the boys singing Their Hearts Were Full Of Spring in the shower! wow haha

Would it be a risk to share this on youtube so that anyone can watch it and link it to the rest of the world, or would the channel take it down? :(


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Ziggy Stardust on July 09, 2012, 05:38:02 PM
And holy cow that new version of She Believes In Love Again sounds great!!!


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Jim V. on July 09, 2012, 06:45:06 PM
Jeez, they are not showing this thing anytime soon around where I live. And I went to the St. Augustine concert that was filmed.

But about "She Believes In Love Again", I'm kinda disappointed to know that it was Jeff singing Carl's part, instead of using Carl's original vocal or having Brian or Al do it. I'm kinda not as interested now.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: krabklaw on July 09, 2012, 09:19:05 PM
Just finished watching the show from an HD download as it's not being shown in the Baltimore area yet. I was really impressed by the entire production and thought this was just an excellent excellent showcase for the band. All of the new songs just sounded phenomenal coming out of my home theater set-up. Brian was really good on Sail On Sailor, but I'm assuming they had another rough try at TWGMTR that night because it sounded like the studio version was substituted for the real thing as they showed the concert footage. All in all though, it looked and sounded great and the interviews were also a pleasure to watch. My compliments to whoever edited this because they covered a lot of ground in the span of 55 minutes. I'll be holding on to this one.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Rocker on July 10, 2012, 08:54:34 AM

Would it be a risk to share this on youtube so that anyone can watch it


No ! Upload it !!

 ;)


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: coco1997 on July 10, 2012, 09:05:52 AM
Where are you hearing this new version of "She Believes In Love Again"? Because it sure wasn't included in the version of the show that aired here in Chicago...


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: hypehat on July 10, 2012, 09:08:27 AM
Where are you hearing this new version of "She Believes In Love Again"? Because it sure wasn't included in the version of the show that aired here in Chicago...

Yeah, I heard nothing 'new' except a harmonies/track bit directly after the Good Vibrations session footage.... I, er, don't own a telly if you catch my drift.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: STE on July 10, 2012, 09:13:48 AM


You don't hear "She Believes In Love Again" but you can see them recording it, if you pay attention and follow the clues.



Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: stack-o-tracks on July 14, 2012, 10:50:34 PM
That Good Vibrations footage is fuckin' epic! I'm glad I was able to record this special on my DVR I hope there will be a DVD release with MORE FOOTAGE.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Rocker on July 16, 2012, 09:34:00 AM
Here's the part with the unused/unreleased recording:

http://sunnydays.podomatic.com/entry/2012-07-14T10_03_15-07_00


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Shady on July 16, 2012, 12:29:15 PM
Here it is on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CJ5qxFKfJM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CJ5qxFKfJM)


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Pretty Funky on July 16, 2012, 05:20:11 PM
Thanks Slim....Watching now. :thumbsup

edit

As has been said, very nice. A big jump from GV to Radio means room for another hour IMO but a good companion to the EH doco. Pity the live 2012 vocals have been tweeked though. Will buy when is released in some form.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Dave Modny on July 18, 2012, 03:31:49 PM
Just a heads-up for folks in the Northeast Ohio area who haven't yet seen the Beach Boys, PBS Front Row Center special. My Dish program guide has this particular episode listed for tomorrow night, Thursday 7/19 at 9:00pm on WEAO, Channel 49 out of Akron/Kent. Note that WEAO, Western Reserve TV hasn't updated the schedule on their website to show the *exact* episode for tomorrow, so don't shoot me if Dish is wrong. Though, I'd wager that their guide is *probably* correct.  :)

Also note: WEAO/49 is showing it on their *main* channel, so it will be broadcast in HD (they previously only showed it, once, on a SD subchannel). Besides OTA if your antenna is strong enough, most cable and satellite operators carry the main WEAO channel in NE Ohio as well. Some in HD.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Ziggy Stardust on July 18, 2012, 04:09:47 PM
Here's the part with the unused/unreleased recording:

http://sunnydays.podomatic.com/entry/2012-07-14T10_03_15-07_00

So no idea what this could be, no infos? i'm really liking it


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on July 18, 2012, 04:20:36 PM
Here's the part with the unused/unreleased recording:

http://sunnydays.podomatic.com/entry/2012-07-14T10_03_15-07_00

So no idea what this could be, no infos? i'm really liking it

Apparently it's "I'll Go Anywhere", the one song from the suite that was dropped on TWGMTR.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Justin on July 18, 2012, 04:22:44 PM
Really like how that sounds.  Would work really well as extended intro into a song.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Ian on July 18, 2012, 05:57:26 PM
I believe the bathtub footage was recorded in a NY hotel after the Carnegie Hall show in Feb 71-they were interviewed by Barry Goldberg


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: When I Grow Up on July 20, 2012, 07:15:03 AM
Here it is on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CJ5qxFKfJM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CJ5qxFKfJM)

Thanks Slim! This has not aired on the Birmingham PBS station yet....


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: The Shift on July 20, 2012, 07:53:37 AM
Really like how that sounds.  Would work really well as extended intro into a song.

The very brief opening keyboard riff is like the bastard child of the Bicycle Rider harpsichord theme and one of the unused Good Vibes outtakes.


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: halblaineisgood on July 24, 2012, 05:30:51 AM
    Concerning the Good Vibrations footage...

  If I had an office, I'd want it playing 24/7 on a multitude of displays. Something similar to what Prince had going with his, endless loop
of James Brown at the T.A.M.I show.



 


Title: Re: Front Row Center - The Beach Boys Doing It Again
Post by: Justin on July 24, 2012, 09:56:17 AM
Really like how that sounds.  Would work really well as extended intro into a song.

The very brief opening keyboard riff is like the bastard child of the Bicycle Rider harpsichord theme and one of the unused Good Vibes outtakes.

haha that's a great way of putting it and I definitely hear it.  It's intriguing and a little spooky...Brian hasn't delved into that bag much in his later years.