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He has manly man hair. Lots of guys have hair that women admire, Brian has hair that even MEN admire. Got to be one of the best heads of hair in music, even at 68 or whatever he's made it to now. I hope my hair is that cool when i'm old. Hell, I'm 32 and my hair isn't that cool, damn him.
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One of the first things that struck me when I saw the Pet Sounds cover for the first time was Brian's super cool hairstyle. He looks so well groomed there...hard to imagine years later he let it all go. I think a great head of hair is important in life lol Unfortunately, mine is starting to thin at 35. Imagine the money they would make if they came up with say, a stem cell cure, *which is rumored to be around the corner* for baldness/thinning hair. Imagine the stock value of that company!!!!!!
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again...you can tell how well (or unwell...)Brian is doing by his hair. Almost without fail.
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Re: Brian Wilson - The Bed Years
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Quote from: A. Grayham Doe on March 11, 2011, 06:56:01 AM
Quote from: hypehat on March 11, 2011, 05:33:24 AM
Isn't that story supposed to be they go round for dinner, Brian is increasingly scared/awkward until he breaks a plate or something and goes up to his room, whereupon Macca knocks and hears him. Poor guy. That story is so heartbreaking.
No, that's the goldfish bowl/Candice Bergen story, as related by Terry Melcher in the 1971
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I hate to unearth a really old thread (been reading archives here.. been a huge BB fan for years but never read this site until recently), I know that's annoying. The Brian "Bed" years really fascinate me though.. Actually Brian Wilson in the 70s in general really fascinates me. I can't really find this story anywhere though just by googling, only this thread. Anyone have a transcript? I've never heard about this before.
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Quote from: jcjh20 on November 03, 2013, 09:44:12 AM
Quote from: A. Grayham Doe on March 11, 2011, 06:56:01 AM
Quote from: hypehat on March 11, 2011, 05:33:24 AM
Isn't that story supposed to be they go round for dinner, Brian is increasingly scared/awkward until he breaks a plate or something and goes up to his room, whereupon Macca knocks and hears him. Poor guy. That story is so heartbreaking.
No, that's the goldfish bowl/Candice Bergen story, as related by Terry Melcher in the 1971
Rolling Stone
2-fer.
I hate to unearth a really old thread (been reading archives here.. been a huge BB fan for years but never read this site until recently), I know that's annoying. The Brian "Bed" years really fascinate me though.. Actually Brian Wilson in the 70s in general really fascinates me. I can't really find this story anywhere though just by googling, only this thread. Anyone have a transcript? I've never heard about this before.
The story isn't much, just that Terry was dating Candice and went with her to Dennis Wilson's boat, where they ran into Brian. Brian was so intimidated by meeting the pretty and (then) famous Ms. Bergen that he put a goldfish bowl over his head when he met her, presumably due to shyness. BTW, if you want to read that and any other stories on Brian and the Beach Boys that were printed in "Rolling Stone," you can access all old stories from their website's archives. Some are available for free. All other stories are available if you're a Rolling Stone subscriber (you can get a trial subscription for cheap).
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Re: Brian Wilson - The Bed Years
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Quote from: jcjh20 on November 03, 2013, 09:44:12 AM
Quote from: A. Grayham Doe on March 11, 2011, 06:56:01 AM
Quote from: hypehat on March 11, 2011, 05:33:24 AM
Isn't that story supposed to be they go round for dinner, Brian is increasingly scared/awkward until he breaks a plate or something and goes up to his room, whereupon Macca knocks and hears him. Poor guy. That story is so heartbreaking.
No, that's the goldfish bowl/Candice Bergen story, as related by Terry Melcher in the 1971
Rolling Stone
2-fer.
Glad you did bring back this thread. been awhile since we tossed the bed years around.
I hate to unearth a really old thread (been reading archives here.. been a huge BB fan for years but never read this site until recently), I know that's annoying. The Brian "Bed" years really fascinate me though.. Actually Brian Wilson in the 70s in general really fascinates me. I can't really find this story anywhere though just by googling, only this thread. Anyone have a transcript? I've never heard about this before.
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Quote from: KittyKat on November 03, 2013, 07:30:03 PM
Quote from: jcjh20 on November 03, 2013, 09:44:12 AM
Quote from: A. Grayham Doe on March 11, 2011, 06:56:01 AM
Quote from: hypehat on March 11, 2011, 05:33:24 AM
Isn't that story supposed to be they go round for dinner, Brian is increasingly scared/awkward until he breaks a plate or something and goes up to his room, whereupon Macca knocks and hears him. Poor guy. That story is so heartbreaking.
No, that's the goldfish bowl/Candice Bergen story, as related by Terry Melcher in the 1971
Rolling Stone
2-fer.
I hate to unearth a really old thread (been reading archives here.. been a huge BB fan for years but never read this site until recently), I know that's annoying. The Brian "Bed" years really fascinate me though.. Actually Brian Wilson in the 70s in general really fascinates me. I can't really find this story anywhere though just by googling, only this thread. Anyone have a transcript? I've never heard about this before.
The story isn't much, just that Terry was dating Candice and went with her to Dennis Wilson's boat, where they ran into Brian. Brian was so intimidated by meeting the pretty and (then) famous Ms. Bergen that he put a goldfish bowl over his head when he met her, presumably due to shyness. BTW, if you want to read that and any other stories on Brian and the Beach Boys that were printed in "Rolling Stone," you can access all old stories from their website's archives. Some are available for free. All other stories are available if you're a Rolling Stone subscriber (you can get a trial subscription for cheap).
It was at the Bellagio house - Dennis didn't have his boat in 1971.
But my point was, it was nothing to do with Macca. Yes, picky to the point of being anal but facts should be reported accurately.
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Re: Brian Wilson - The Bed Years
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"Brian Wilson-The Bed Years" sounds like a cool title for a cd.. just find a photo of him in bed superimpose (or as the young whipper snappers say in this day and age "Photoshop") some head phones on him and a microphone in his hand or on a stand next to the bed and a keyboard in his lap for the cover and there we go....and put the recordings he did during that time period on it....
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Quote from: Walkin' barefoot with your sister on March 10, 2011, 08:08:56 AM
Sometimes when you are really high, 20 minutes can feel like an hour (or vice versa)
Same effect when my mom talks to me on the phone. Like right now. Hope she doesn't hear me typing...
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Thanks a lot for recanting that story, even if AGD had to correct you a bit. I gotta dig into those archives and look for that story. It seems like Brian really had more insecurity and reclusive problems around that era ( '71 and a year or 2 after) than 74-75 which is when it was widely known he was always "in bed" for 2 or 3 years. Those pictures that circulate of Brian at the Pewter interview and at Keith Moon's birthday party really make me think the same as what someone else here said; he was probably sleeping a lot, but up all night partying too. Who knows, but there's so much info I'm still reading about from the early to mid 70s era.
Quote from: joshferrell on November 04, 2013, 09:02:58 AM
That's absolutely hilarious.. That could be an interesting compilation idea someone could make though.. Could have a bunch of mostly 71-75 type era songs, including some American Spring stuff.
Sweet Mountain/Tennessee Waltz (since Brian supposedly played everything on the track didn't he?)/ California Feelin Demo/Fairy Tale Music/
A few others I guess, can't really remember much of what is out there right now. It's not much at all obviously.
By the way did Brian co-write that song "Silly Walls"? Never realized how great a song that is and I love the lyrics. I'm really surprised "Shyin Away" wasn't composed by Brian, but maybe it's the production that makes it sound so much like a Brian Wilson song.
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BRIAN WILSON - The Bed Years.
Music to snore by.
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Quote from: leggo of my ego on November 04, 2013, 11:33:33 AM
BRIAN WILSON - The Bed Years.
Music to snort by.
Fixed that for you.
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If memory serves me correctly, in the Don Was film, IJWMFTT, Brian says he did 10 years, off and on, of "bedroom scene".
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Quote from: A. Grayham Doe on March 08, 2011, 02:39:15 PM
spring 1974 - Don't Let The Sun Go Down On Me bvs (original)
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Quote from: Jonas on March 08, 2011, 04:59:46 PM
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spring 1974 - Don't Let The Sun Go Down On Me bvs (original)
Brian was on that?
On the original bvs - not the released ones.
Literally shocked reading this. Wonder if theres a way to hear this
Not according to Bruce, who arranged the session...he says Elton got an all-star cast of Brian, Danny Hutton, Dusty Springfield, Cat Stevens, Gerry Beckley, and himself together to do the backgrounds...all to no avail, as they couldn't get an actual performance out of anyone 'cause they were all to afraid of each other. So, Bruce did the actual vocals with Carl, Billy, Toni and Daryl while Elton flew off to Japan. Incidentally, this was Earl Mankey's first session at Brother.
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I have a pretty interesting story that kinda relates to this topic.
About a year ago when I was first realizing my issues I was really hesitant about
talking to anyone about it, I used music and if you go back you can hear that in some tracks.
Anyway, I had a few days where I was so down I was afraid I was in danger, most people who've dealt
with this know sometimes you don't really want to die, you want to escape, and I feel like that's what Brian
was feeling. During the day he hid from fear, he didn't stay in his room all the time, he just went up when
he was feeling down (fortunate pun...) He still went out at night, he was just dealing with his issues on his own.
Man, I spent two whole weeks in my room straight listening to Pet Sounds and writing... Actually, I listened to A Day In The Life of a Tree for almost a few days on repeat. It's all about getting away from the pain :/
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I think the people around Brian may have been exaggerating about him lying in bed for three years straight. It may have seemed like he was, but he still had visitors and went out at night, as pointed out. I have an old Melody Maker book of compiled interviews that I found in a used bookstore. It has an interview with Brian that was done around 1973 or so, the height of his so-called bed period. Brian seemed fairly normal in the interview, playing records for the reporter and being far more articulate than he later became. I'm sure he had problems, but he wasn't doing that badly at times.
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Quote from: bgas on March 10, 2011, 08:01:56 AM
Quote from: Yorick on March 10, 2011, 07:40:31 AM
Thursday April 4 1974
While still in Los Angeles on holiday, Paul and Linda decide to pay a visit to Brian Wilson, the now reclusive member of The Beach Boys, at his Bel Air home. They McCartneys bang on the door for over an hour, but Wilson refuses to let them in. Paul and Linda knew Brian was there, because they could hear him inside quietly crying to himself. With no alternative, Paul and Linda depart from the house and head on their way.
Must have been a REALLy slow day in McCartneyland. I'm hard pressed to think of anytime I'd stand outside banging on someone's door, for more than an hour.
"Brian, Pretty Please, with coke on top, open the door".
Nah, I think they might have been there, maybe, 20 minutes...
If they'd just said "pretty please, we have burgers and some birthday cake to share" he would have opened the door.
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Add Cruise To Harlem and Just 14 to the Bed Years comp
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Quote from: KittyKat on November 05, 2013, 12:08:52 AM
I think the people around Brian may have been exaggerating about him lying in bed for three years straight. It may have seemed like he was, but he still had visitors and went out at night, as pointed out. I have an old Melody Maker book of compiled interviews that I found in a used bookstore. It has an interview with Brian that was done around 1973 or so, the height of his so-called bed period. Brian seemed fairly normal in the interview, playing records for the reporter and being far more articulate than he later became. I'm sure he had problems, but he wasn't doing that badly at times.
I'd love to read that interview, is it available anywhere else?
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Not seen it online. I'll see if I can scan the version I have that's in a book of collected
MM
articles.. There's some useful info about Spring.
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Quote from: FatherOfTheMan (Vito Salulation) on November 04, 2013, 07:50:02 PM
I have a pretty interesting story that kinda relates to this topic.
About a year ago when I was first realizing my issues I was really hesitant about
talking to anyone about it, I used music and if you go back you can hear that in some tracks.
Anyway, I had a few days where I was so down I was afraid I was in danger, most people who've dealt
with this know sometimes you don't really want to die, you want to escape, and I feel like that's what Brian
was feeling. During the day he hid from fear, he didn't stay in his room all the time, he just went up when
he was feeling down (fortunate pun...) He still went out at night, he was just dealing with his issues on his own.
Man, I spent two whole weeks in my room straight listening to Pet Sounds and writing... Actually, I listened to A Day In The Life of a Tree for almost a few days on repeat. It's all about getting away from the pain :/
Appreciate that - many thanks for posting it. I think sometimes that seeing traits you recognise and can relate to in public figures - especially idols - actually helps sort things and bring a little clarity. I've had similar episodes of tuning out of the rest of the world by constantly playing the same music again and again. Eventually I've found I pass through something and come out the other side in a slightly different shape, usually stronger for it. Either music, or a bloody long walk (or both), help that process.
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I just come here and insult selected posters.
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Quote from: A. Grayham Doe on March 08, 2011, 02:39:15 PM
Lessee, mid-1973 - late 1975...
Known recording sessions:
fall 1973 - Ding Dang
3/2/74 - Brian's Jam (= Shortenin' Bread)/Clangin'
spring 1974 - Don't Let The Sun Go Down On Me bvs (original)
6/10/74 - Ding Dang
summer 1974 - Just An Imitation and Why Don't You Try Me
mid-October 1974 - It's OK/Honeycomb
11/4/74 - Good Timin'/Brian's Tune (= 'dirty' version of Ding Dang) [Caribou ?]
11/5/74 - Battle Hymn Of The Republic/Child Of Winter [Caribou ?]
11/12/74 - California Feelin'/Lucy Jones [Western]
11/18/74 - Child Of Winter
3/12/75 - unknown title [RCA]
5/29/75 - Why Do Fools Fall In Love/Ding Dang/Money Honey [RCA]
spring 1975 - Help Me Rhonda bvs
summer 1975 - Boat to Sail bvs
September 1975 - Back Home
mid-October 1975 - Come To The Sunshine [Sound Factory]
Other stuff:
June 1973 - flies to NYC with Diane after Murry dies
August 1974 -
Endless Summer
gold disc photoshoot
Not bad for someone who stayed in bed for two years
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AGD, are you being sarcastic?
Cuz, too me, that doesn't sound like a whole lot of accomplishments.
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