Sunflower outtakes?

[TheLazenby]

I realized that Sunflower doesn't take up much of a CD, so I thought I'd burn a 'complete' version with all the rejects from that album...  Are there any I'm missing?

*  Loop De Loop
*  San Miguel
*  Walkin'
*  Games Two Can Play
*  When Girls Get Together
*  Tears In The Morning  [original, from 'Sun Flower']
*  Back Home
*  Fallin' In Love (Lady)
*  I Just Got My Pay
*  Carnival
*  Susie Cincinnati
*  Good Time
*  Take A Load Off Your Feet  [original, from 'Landlocked']
*  I'm Going Your Way

[buddhahat]

Doesn't Soulful Old Man Sunshine stem from sunflower sessions? I always whack breakaway with sunflower as well - not sure if that's wrong though.

[Jason]

Let's consider the "Sunflower period" to be from January of 1969 (first Forever sessions) to July of 1970 (master assembled). So you can add Soulful Old Man Sunshine, Break Away, Celebrate the News, Cotton Fields, and, from 2/24 and 5/24/69 there's a track recorded called What Can The Matter Be?, a demo of 'Til I Die from 11/6/69, the oft-referenced Where Is She? from November of '69 (this exists in fragments a la Can't Wait Too Long), and You Never Give Me Your Money from 1/7/70.

[Andrew G. Doe]

Let's consider the "Sunflower period" to be from January of 1969 (first Forever sessions) to July of 1970 (master assembled). So you can add Soulful Old Man Sunshine, Break Away, Celebrate the News, Cotton Fields, and, from 2/24 and 5/24/69 there's a track recorded called What Can The Matter Be?, a demo of 'Til I Die from 11/6/69, the oft-referenced Where Is She? from November of '69 (this exists in fragments a la Can't Wait Too Long), and You Never Give Me Your Money from 1/7/70.

Yeah, I  read that in an article somewhere...  

[punkinhead]

Let's consider the "Sunflower period" to be from January of 1969 (first Forever sessions) to July of 1970 (master assembled). So you can add Soulful Old Man Sunshine, Break Away, Celebrate the News, Cotton Fields, and, from 2/24 and 5/24/69 there's a track recorded called What Can The Matter Be?, a demo of 'Til I Die from 11/6/69, the oft-referenced Where Is She? from November of '69 (this exists in fragments a la Can't Wait Too Long), and You Never Give Me Your Money from 1/7/70.

Am I reading this right? parts of Where is She is on fragments of Can't Wait Too Long?

[Jason]

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%C3%A0_la#French

[bossaroo]

'Won't You Tell Me' is from that era as well... love this one.

[Jason]

'Won't You Tell Me' is from that era as well... love this one.

Nope...but good song, though.

[bossaroo]

more Surf's Up-era?

ehh. close enough.
plus its by Rick Henn, so it goes well with Soulful Old Man

[Jason]

Recorded by the Sunrays in early 1971, then overdubbed with Beach Boys vocals on 6/19/71.

Source for this and my last post is (he's obviously pissed) AGD.

[Jim V.]

Let's consider the "Sunflower period" to be from January of 1969 (first Forever sessions) to July of 1970 (master assembled). So you can add Soulful Old Man Sunshine, Break Away, Celebrate the News, Cotton Fields, and, from 2/24 and 5/24/69 there's a track recorded called What Can The Matter Be?, a demo of 'Til I Die from 11/6/69, the oft-referenced Where Is She? from November of '69 (this exists in fragments a la Can't Wait Too Long), and You Never Give Me Your Money from 1/7/70.

Where is this "Where Is She?" existing in fragments business coming from? I never heard anything about this.

[TdHabib]

Pissed in the American sense means one thing--angry, furious being examples. Rather, in the English sense it means something else entirely...I don't doubt AGD's been that a few times

[Mikie]

Source for this and my last post is (he's obviously pissed) AGD.

So what else is new? He's always pissed at anybody, anything, and everything!  Gets old after awhile, dudinit?  

And use his statements and information from his web site (public domain) at will!  Shouldn't have to credit him and kiss his butt every effing time you post something here, eh?    

[TheLazenby]

Yeah, but "Break Away" and "Celebrate The News" would feel out of place, since they ended up as 20/20 single tracks.  (And they're on the CD version.)

[Mikie]

.......And wasn't there another song recorded called "Raspberries & Strawberries"?  Also, the alternate version of "Add Some Music To Your Day" with different lyrics which I asuume was an early version of the song.

[TdHabib]

.......And wasn't there another song recorded called "Raspberries & Strawberries"? 

That was used, I believe, as the backing track to "At My Window."

[Don_Zabu]

.......And wasn't there another song recorded called "Raspberries & Strawberries"? 

That was used, I believe, as the backing track to "At My Window."

With a title like that, why am I not surprised? 

[Wirestone]

Mikie: The fact that something is on a website does not make it public domain. People have been sued for money and lost thinking that. It's no different than saying that because a book is in a library, you can simply use its words and information and pass them off as your own.

The web is simply another platform for publishing, and AGD owns the content he wrote on his website. It is simple courtesy to credit him.

[bgas]

Mikie: The fact that something is on a website does not make it public domain. People have been sued for money and lost thinking that. It's no different than saying that because a book is in a library, you can simply use its words and information and pass them off as your own.

The web is simply another platform for publishing, and AGD owns the content he wrote on his website. It is simple courtesy to credit him.

Yes, I can see Crediting AGD, if for no other reason than he's ours, and we want him to stay;
But stuff from books?  why the heck not?, that's free picking as long as they don't catch on...

[Rocky]

Shouldn't have to credit him and kiss his butt every effing time you post something here, eh?

citing a source isnt really kissing someones butt, it's just giving credit where it is due. Ethics.

[Mikie]

Mikie: The fact that something is on a website does not make it public domain.

AGD's site has been my 'public domain' for years and years and years, Mr. Wirestone. And I've taken recording dates, names, song titles, etc. and reposted some of it on two different message boards for a very long time. Don't think he's ever called me on it, ever. And after all these years, I say thanks, AGD!! Please don't sue me, K?  

Ethics. Sure, I have ethics. I'm very ethical. I'm being ethical right now for admitting that I stole information from Andrew's site and reposted it on a couple of Beach Boys message boards, mostly for the benefit of others and not for myself.  And I just thanked Mr. Doe for that too. I think that's ethical.

P.S. And I've never kissed his butt!!!

[ukulelejesus]

Soulful Old Man Sunshine is my fave beach boys not-track and the fact that they could make that whole thing and just not bother releasing it, despite it being such a ridiculously great song just proves that the beach boys had the greatest conflict between being sheer geniuses, and being total reatrds ever. That they would put out Take a Load Off Your Feet and NOT Soulful Old Man Sunchine just shows they weren't operating ever on anything normal humans can judge.

[Andrew G. Doe]

P.S. And I've never kissed his butt!!!

Don't believe I'm not eternally grateful.  

The web is simply another platform for publishing, and AGD owns the content he wrote on his website. It is simple courtesy to credit him.

The content I wrote is mine - I try to credit everyone else I ripped off for the remaining 90% or so. 

[Andrew G. Doe]

Soulful Old Man Sunshine is my fave beach boys not-track and the fact that they could make that whole thing and just not bother releasing it, despite it being such a ridiculously great song just proves that the beach boys had the greatest conflict between being sheer geniuses, and being total reatrds ever. That they would put out Take a Load Off Your Feet and NOT Soulful Old Man Sunchine just shows they weren't operating ever on anything normal humans can judge.

They didn't 'make the whole thing' - after a couple of vocal sessions, they walked away from it in 1969. The version we have is the product of a finished track tape, a couple of bv sessions, a scratch lead from Carl and some expert compiling by Mark in 1992 or thereabouts (or so I was given to understand at the time). So... couldn't release it in 1969-1991 as it only existed in pieces.

[punkinhead]

Soulful Old Man Sunshine is my fave beach boys not-track and the fact that they could make that whole thing and just not bother releasing it, despite it being such a ridiculously great song just proves that the beach boys had the greatest conflict between being sheer geniuses, and being total reatrds ever. That they would put out Take a Load Off Your Feet and NOT Soulful Old Man Sunchine just shows they weren't operating ever on anything normal humans can judge.

They didn't 'make the whole thing' - after a couple of vocal sessions, they walked away from it in 1969. The version we have is the product of a finished track tape, a couple of bv sessions, a scratch lead from Carl and some expert compiling by Mark in 1992 or thereabouts (or so I was given to understand at the time). So... couldn't release it in 1969-1991 as it only existed in pieces.

So is the version of SOMS on Landlocked boots the "version" from back in the Sunflower era or the one from EH?