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« Reply #25 on: January 07, 2010, 02:36:31 PM »

BTW, I just did some research, and the number next to the RIAA symbol designates which pressing plant the record came from.  A blank designates Capitol's Scranton, PA plant (as would a "2" or a "3"), and a "5" or a "6" designates the Los Angeles plant.  A "4" would designate Capitol's Jacksonville, IL plant, which didn't open until the summer of 1965 -- after Today! was released.  Records are pretty heavy by the truckload, so it makes perfect sense that Capitol would service the western half of the US out of the LA plant and the eastern half out of Scranton.  As the record business grew, it would make sense to have a plant in the central US, hence Jacksonville, IL.  Around 1970 they would also open a fourth plant in Winchester, VA.

Beatles collectors are all over this, with different values being placed on an "East Coast" or "West Coast" pressing of Beatles LPs.

So it's possible to have a first pressing Today! with a blank or a "6" next to the RIAA symbol.  But still impossible to have a 1966 inner sleeve on a March 1965 first pressing.  And any copy with a "4" and mentioning Jacksonville, IL on the back cover is definitely a later pressing.

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« Reply #26 on: January 08, 2010, 01:24:29 AM »

I find the plant designation very interesting. It's also done for the www.beachboys45.nl web site to distinguish the different Starline pressings. It's not completely finished yet, but - with help of some dedicated fans - of several Starline-series we do have an overview of the different plants. In this case other symbols were used (* = LA, 0 = Jacksonville, >-- = Winchester, AIM triangle or Anvil notation = Scranton). It's interesting to see the changes. The first series is just LA or Scranton. Jacksonville and Winchester also start pressing Starline 45's in the early 70ies, but Scranton suddenly is out of the picture (as it apparently was closed). When they started pressing the blue labels, 3 plants were still responsible for production, but it almost looks like jobs were divided. The A-prefix series was mainly done by LA and Winchester, the X-prefix however was mainly a Winchester and Jacksonvillle production.

Again, very interesting, but I'm wandering off now. Back to Today/Summer Days.
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« Reply #27 on: January 13, 2010, 02:13:42 PM »

BTW, I just did some research, and the number next to the RIAA symbol designates which pressing plant the record came from.  A blank designates Capitol's Scranton, PA plant (as would a "2" or a "3"), and a "5" or a "6" designates the Los Angeles plant.  A "4" would designate Capitol's Jacksonville, IL plant, which didn't open until the summer of 1965 -- after Today! was released.  Records are pretty heavy by the truckload, so it makes perfect sense that Capitol would service the western half of the US out of the LA plant and the eastern half out of Scranton.  As the record business grew, it would make sense to have a plant in the central US, hence Jacksonville, IL.  Around 1970 they would also open a fourth plant in Winchester, VA.

Beatles collectors are all over this, with different values being placed on an "East Coast" or "West Coast" pressing of Beatles LPs.

So it's possible to have a first pressing Today! with a blank or a "6" next to the RIAA symbol.  But still impossible to have a 1966 inner sleeve on a March 1965 first pressing.  And any copy with a "4" and mentioning Jacksonville, IL on the back cover is definitely a later pressing.

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Interesting stuff, Lee.  You got me curious so I had a look and mine is definitely a blank Scranton.  Weird!
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« Reply #28 on: February 09, 2011, 06:55:18 PM »

So anybody else get these? 

I kinda wanna order them, and am curious on the quality. 
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« Reply #29 on: February 09, 2011, 08:15:24 PM »

So anybody else get these? 

I kinda wanna order them, and am curious on the quality. 
Yeah. Well worth having. Great packaging and the sound is way better than the cds and closer to ,or maybe even better than, the original pressings (clear on Summer Days and muddy as hell on Today, the way Brian mixed them)
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« Reply #30 on: February 09, 2011, 08:41:02 PM »

So anybody else get these? 

I kinda wanna order them, and am curious on the quality. 
Yeah. Well worth having. Great packaging and the sound is way better than the cds and closer to ,or maybe even better than, the original pressings (clear on Summer Days and muddy as hell on Today, the way Brian mixed them)

that's cool.  I've always wondered about Today, mainly on "please let me wonder".  That tune in particular is really muddy.  Summer Days is great to me though.  thanks!
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