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« on: December 19, 2010, 11:10:28 PM »

I've read in a few different places that Brian re-recorded "In The Back Of My Mind" in like 1975 or something. And that it was one of the first instances showcasing the "new" voice.

It's not listed on AGD's page, but it is seen the Badman book I'm pretty sure.

So whats the deal on this one?
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« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2010, 06:27:00 AM »

They played "In The Back of My Mind" live around 75 with Billy Hinsche on lead, is that what you mean?
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« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2010, 06:31:43 AM »

Dennis sings it with Beachago as well.
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« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2010, 06:36:27 AM »

No the Badman books lists a re-recording. Not a live version or any of that biz.
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« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2010, 07:33:46 AM »

Seeing as Badman is the only place I've seen it listed, until some confirmation shows up, I'm ignoring it.
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« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2010, 08:40:30 AM »

wasn't it to be re-recorded by Brian?
I'm guessing around the same time of Sherri She Needs Me (obviously inspired by old tunes).
I'd love to hear the instrumental track he may have produced for it.
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« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2010, 08:55:12 AM »

They played "In The Back of My Mind" live around 75 with Billy Hinsche on lead, is that what you mean?
With Billy Hinsche on lead? That's news to me. I know Billy sang I'm Waiting For the Day and Wishing You Were Here live in '75...but the only live '75 version of ITBOMM I've heard and/or heard of was with Dennis on lead.
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« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2010, 08:58:20 AM »

They played "In The Back of My Mind" live around 75 with Billy Hinsche on lead, is that what you mean?
With Billy Hinsche on lead? That's news to me. I know Billy sang I'm Waiting For the Day and Wishing You Were Here live in '75...but the only live '75 version of ITBOMM I've heard and/or heard of was with Dennis on lead.

Whoops, you are right, my bad.
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« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2010, 11:14:17 AM »

Seeing as Badman is the only place I've seen it listed, until some confirmation shows up, I'm ignoring it.

Consider it confirmed, my friend.
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« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2010, 11:23:58 AM »

Seeing as Badman is the only place I've seen it listed, until some confirmation shows up, I'm ignoring it.

Consider it confirmed, my friend.

That's kind-of nebulous, isn't it? 
Have you personally heard a studio re-recording?
Have some aural proof to share with AGD or someone else you trust not to boot it?
I'm not saying you're lying/it doesn't exist, but I'd like a little more than "Consider it confirmed, my friend"
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« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2010, 01:15:24 PM »

Seeing as Badman is the only place I've seen it listed, until some confirmation shows up, I'm ignoring it.

Consider it confirmed, my friend.

Ummm... now Adam mentions it, I do recall him saying he'd either heard it or knew someone who had. Well duh ! on me.
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« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2010, 01:37:50 PM »

I guess that's the problem with the Badman book, there's so many mistakes and factual errors in there that something that is actually correct gets ignored!
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« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2010, 03:09:40 PM »

Was  new track recorded or just the vocals, like Sherry, She Needs Me?
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« Reply #13 on: December 21, 2010, 12:49:42 AM »

Alan Boyd told me about the 1975 ITBOMM. He says it's really sad because it's the last of the old voice and the new voice keeps breaking through.
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« Reply #14 on: December 21, 2010, 03:10:41 AM »

Alan Boyd told me about the 1975 ITBOMM. He says it's really sad because it's the last of the old voice and the new voice keeps breaking through.

That's exactly right.  And yes, I've heard it, once.
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« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2010, 06:31:10 AM »

Alan Boyd told me about the 1975 ITBOMM. He says it's really sad because it's the last of the old voice and the new voice keeps breaking through.

That's exactly right.  And yes, I've heard it, once.

wow, sounds jawdropping and must be released!
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« Reply #16 on: December 21, 2010, 11:12:11 AM »

I've read in a few different places that Brian re-recorded "In The Back Of My Mind" in like 1975 or something. And that it was one of the first instances showcasing the "new" voice.

It's not listed on AGD's page, but it is seen the Badman book I'm pretty sure.

So whats the deal on this one?

The deal seems to be, it's not in Badman's book - just checked 1973/4/5. Nada, zippo, zilch.
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« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2010, 01:10:59 PM »

I've read in a few different places that Brian re-recorded "In The Back Of My Mind" in like 1975 or something. And that it was one of the first instances showcasing the "new" voice.

It's not listed on AGD's page, but it is seen the Badman book I'm pretty sure.

So whats the deal on this one?

The deal seems to be, it's not in Badman's book - just checked 1973/4/5. Nada, zippo, zilch.

Ahh...   fast forward to October 1976, Badman: >>a solo piano/vocal version by Brian of the "Today" song "In The Back Of My Mind" with a newly composed bridge.<<
 Easy to miss stuff here...
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« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2010, 01:42:56 PM »

I was told Nov. or Dec. '74...I think.  Boyd is the authority on this.  I'm just going by an old memory.
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« Reply #19 on: December 21, 2010, 02:18:16 PM »

I've read in a few different places that Brian re-recorded "In The Back Of My Mind" in like 1975 or something. And that it was one of the first instances showcasing the "new" voice.

It's not listed on AGD's page, but it is seen the Badman book I'm pretty sure.

So whats the deal on this one?

The deal seems to be, it's not in Badman's book - just checked 1973/4/5. Nada, zippo, zilch.

Ahh...   fast forward to October 1976, Badman: >>a solo piano/vocal version by Brian of the "Today" song "In The Back Of My Mind" with a newly composed bridge.<<
 Easy to miss stuff here...

Just looked at that, and there's stuff he states that makes his dating (surprise !) exceedingly questionable: October 1976 recording dates for "Michael Row The Boat Ashore", "Shake, Rattle And Roll" and "Running Bear" ? I don't think so. Also, I'm reliably informed the date on the "Back Of My Mind" tape box is 1975.

When I contacted Badman originally about the unauthorised/uncredited use of my material, what he said about his 'researchers' contributions to the project very strongly indicated to me that little, if any, fact checking and cross referencing was undertaken. Seems to me that stuff pulled directly from the 'net was (slightly) reworded and then just thrown into the pot.
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« Reply #20 on: December 21, 2010, 02:47:02 PM »

I've read in a few different places that Brian re-recorded "In The Back Of My Mind" in like 1975 or something. And that it was one of the first instances showcasing the "new" voice.

It's not listed on AGD's page, but it is seen the Badman book I'm pretty sure.

So whats the deal on this one?


The deal seems to be, it's not in Badman's book - just checked 1973/4/5. Nada, zippo, zilch.

Ahh...   fast forward to October 1976, Badman: >>a solo piano/vocal version by Brian of the "Today" song "In The Back Of My Mind" with a newly composed bridge.<<
 Easy to miss stuff here...

Just looked at that, and there's stuff he states that makes his dating (surprise !) exceedingly questionable: October 1976 recording dates for "Michael Row The Boat Ashore", "Shake, Rattle And Roll" and "Running Bear" ? I don't think so. Also, I'm reliably informed the date on the "Back Of My Mind" tape box is 1975.

When I contacted Badman originally about the unauthorised/uncredited use of my material, what he said about his 'researchers' contributions to the project very strongly indicated to me that little, if any, fact checking and cross referencing was undertaken. Seems to me that stuff pulled directly from the 'net was (slightly) reworded and then just thrown into the pot.

Definitely! 
I am in no way defending Badman, or his dates/research/writing.
 Simply wanted to point out the ITBOMM reference, since we all had seemed to miss it.
I think it's obvious to everyone how many errors he allowed to be printed.
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« Reply #21 on: December 21, 2010, 03:00:11 PM »

Everyone except himself, and his publishers, apparently.  Grin

The one thing about that book I find utterly inexplicable is that no-one, at any stage of the production process, looked at the AFM sheet repros and thought "should we be printing these with the social security numbers ?"
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« Reply #22 on: December 21, 2010, 06:33:18 PM »

we need this Keith Badman on this message board, anyone have any connections?  Wink
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« Reply #23 on: December 21, 2010, 07:02:28 PM »

we need this Keith Badman on this message board, anyone have any connections?  Wink

I think maybe you should start your own message board, where you and Keith can pass inanities back and forth.   Grin
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« Reply #24 on: December 21, 2010, 07:36:41 PM »

Alan Boyd told me about the 1975 ITBOMM. He says it's really sad because it's the last of the old voice and the new voice keeps breaking through.

That's exactly right.  And yes, I've heard it, once.

Wow. Do we have any idea for what reason this was recorded? Maybe as a demo for California Music to use or something? It's just odd the guy couldn't be bothered to write or record much from '73 thru '75 but he gets the urge to re-record an album track from 1965. Weird.

This has to be near the top of my list of things that I would love to hear, along with "California Feelin'" '74 and "Where Is She?". Don't know if there are many other things I've heard of that seem to be unreleased Brian treasures besides maybe some nice little things like "Boys & Girls" or whatever from '81 which was talked up a bit, or maybe "Sweetie", or possibly "Burlesque" which we'll probably never see an official release of, due to it be dirty supposedly.
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