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« Reply #50 on: January 03, 2006, 04:51:48 PM »

Quote from: Dancing Bear on January 03, 2006, 02:47:55 AM

He mentioned also that he played the "cheezy organ solo" in the Wild Hony track.

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« Reply #51 on: January 13, 2006, 01:32:57 PM »

I can't say enough great stuff about this album. It's top-shelf musically and it holds together very nicely as a whole. The raw sound really works here and brings out the best in these tracks, IMO. Two greasy thumbs up. 5 stars.


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« Reply #52 on: January 14, 2006, 12:08:38 AM »

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I don't know about Carol on IWMTLH. She's so vociferous about the Stevie Wonder element of it... Plus she's made it very clear she stopped working for Brian with Smile.

I thought the wrecking crew came back to work on Friends?


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« Reply #53 on: January 14, 2006, 01:15:07 AM »

Carol didn't.


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« Reply #54 on: January 14, 2006, 12:56:13 PM »

Did she have a falling out with Brian? Or since Brian wasn't really producing the records anymore the Beach Boys picked their favorite session bass players like Ron Brown.


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« Reply #55 on: January 15, 2006, 06:59:58 AM »

I believe that Carol actually started playing a little less, at that point to spend more time with her family.

But I think it's likely that the Boys were just more familiar with Ray Pohlman, since they had worked with him a lot, and Carol playec for Brian more when the Boys were on the road. And of course, Ron Brown was probably hanging around rehearsing for tours, so he would have been just easy to plug in.


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« Reply #56 on: February 02, 2006, 11:27:41 AM »

"Wild Honey" brings back more memories of a Beach Boys album then anything, next to "Pet Sounds." Not saying they are equal. But it's the only one I can really remember making an impact on me. I was just getting into the Beach Boys and had heard very little of their post-Pet Sounds catalog. I found the cassette in a bargain bin for $3.99. I remember hating it on first listen. I didn't dig the sound or the muddiness and lack of drums on all these r&b tunes. But damn, I ended up wearing that tape out. I would play it constantly over and over driving to school, and wherever else I went.

A similiar thing happened with "Love You." I found the vinyl for about the same price as above and I hated the first listen.. but next thing you know, it was playing constantly. I have no idea what it is about these albums that are so addictive!


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« Reply #57 on: February 03, 2006, 05:48:05 AM »

I read the superlatives about 'Wild Honey' on this thread and I find myself asking "Have I been listening to a completely different album?" I gave it another go the other day and no - the songs for the most part are slight and unmemorable. Nothing awful, you understand, but not great. I give it a 3.


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« Reply #58 on: February 03, 2006, 07:14:06 AM »

Love it ! 5 !!
This is an fantastic album. The Boys really showed they could rock! One of Jim Morrison's favorite albums as far as I know. And rightfully so.
I wish there would be a remastered version of it with outtakes and a stereo-version. The UM-release of it is my favorite of the UM-series. Maybe even a book written about these session (plus Friends and even Smiley Smile) to see how the BBs worked on the albums from that period. Stephen Desper could maybe give some insight.
There was an article 'bout half a year ago where a new rock-band was described (was it the Magic Numbers ? ) and Wild Honey was mentioned as "Brian Wilson's Indi-Rock-Gem", though I think this was more an group-effort, at least more so than Pet Sounds or Smile.


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« Reply #59 on: February 03, 2006, 10:47:57 AM »

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« Reply #60 on: February 03, 2006, 06:12:17 PM »

Quote from: Rocker on February 03, 2006, 07:14:06 AM

One of Jim Morrison's favorite albums as far as I know. And rightfully so.

Is that really true? Where can this be verified? Did one of the Doors mention that Jim loved Wild Honey in an interview?


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« Reply #61 on: February 03, 2006, 06:15:06 PM »

David Anderle mentioned it in a famous interview with Paul Williams.


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« Reply #62 on: February 04, 2006, 05:13:31 AM »

Quote from: Mike Lovestein on February 03, 2006, 06:12:17 PM

Quote from: Rocker on February 03, 2006, 07:14:06 AM

One of Jim Morrison's favorite albums as far as I know. And rightfully so.

Is that really true? Where can this be verified? Did one of the Doors mention that Jim loved Wild Honey in an interview?

I think Ian is right. Morrison was a big Beach Boys-Fan. he said they were the reason he came to California.
If he still thought so after Dennis had beaten him up, I don't know.... Grin


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« Reply #63 on: February 04, 2006, 10:49:09 AM »

dennis beat him up or is this a joke...sry, i dont know tones online


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« Reply #64 on: February 04, 2006, 03:43:04 PM »

ell, this was in a club in L.A., don't know which, might be the Whiskey. A young singer was singing and playing and Jim Morrison along with (I believe) Eric Burdon went up on stage, throwing the young singer off stage. Dennis went up and did the same with Morrison and Burdon. At least that's what I heard....


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Wild Honey: Original Sequence

« Reply #65 on: February 08, 2006, 02:26:24 PM »

I've read that WILD HONEY was originally to appear with a different
line-up then what we have now. What would that have been and
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« Reply #66 on: February 08, 2006, 02:31:52 PM »

The orginal tracklisting (from what I know)

Wild Honey
Here Comes The Night
The Letter (live) - was crossed out on lineup paper
Darlin'
A Thing or Two
Cool Cool Water - Probably too early
Lonely Days - also axed. Not a lot seemed to have come out of that song.
I'd Love Just Once To See You
Country Air
How She Boogalooed It
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« Reply #67 on: February 08, 2006, 02:47:14 PM »

Don't forget the title truncation, from "Good Lord how She Boogalooed it".


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« Reply #68 on: February 08, 2006, 02:48:39 PM »

Quote from: aeijtzsche on February 08, 2006, 02:47:14 PM

Don't forget the title truncation, from "Good Lord how She Boogalooed it".

Well they did get the point across


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« Reply #69 on: February 08, 2006, 03:53:33 PM »

No, the original sequence was...

Wild Honey
Here Comes The Night
Let The Wind Blow
I Was Made To Love Her
The Letter (removed)
Darlin'
A Thing Or Two
Aren't You Glad
Cool Cool Water (removed)
Game of Love (removed)
Lonely Days (removed)
Honey Get Home (removed)

Would it be possible to piece this version together? I mean, overlooking that "Lonely Days" is only a fragment of a song. I know "Cool Cool Water" is on the boxed set... are the other missing tracks on bootlegs??


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« Reply #70 on: February 08, 2006, 03:55:04 PM »

Wasn't there an early version of Can't Wait Too Long that was supposed to go on WH?


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« Reply #71 on: February 08, 2006, 04:06:29 PM »

Oddly enough, in a Capitol vault search last year I came across a tape box which apparently contained the first generation master of the WILD HONEY album, and the original documentation lists a slightly different line-up from all of these:

WILD HONEY
AREN’T YOU GLAD
I WAS MADE TO LOVE HER
COUNTRY AIR
A THING OR TWO
DARLIN’
I’D LOVE JUST ONCE TO SEE YOU
HERE COMES THE NIGHT
HIDE YOUR LOVE AWAY * ?
THE LETTER
LET THE WIND BLOW
I WAS MADE TO LOVE HER (LONG VERSION )

I'm pretty sure that "Hide Your Love Way" is a mistake, and should have listed "With A Little Help From My Friends."

In any case, "With A Little Help From My Friends," "The Letter," and the long version of "I Was Made To Love Her" were removed from this reel and tacked onto a Capitol phono reel (phono reels being compilations of single masters and various one shot recordings that didn't belong on an album), where they were taken for lost and gone and unknown for a long long time until Brad Elliott unearthed them for the "Rarities" album.

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