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« Reply #25 on: October 09, 2010, 09:45:24 AM »

Wonderful.

With a nod to Bach's Cello Suite #1, one can now easily imagine this in the same era as Song Cycle...
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« Reply #26 on: October 09, 2010, 11:48:37 AM »

Yeah, a VDP Presents SMiLE would be a corker. His own arrangements......... how would he have done it bearing in mind the masterpiece Song Cycle which followed......  Cool
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« Reply #27 on: October 10, 2010, 12:02:00 PM »

It's a nice clip, but the woman's vocal is dispensable and, to my ears, unnecessary.
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« Reply #28 on: October 10, 2010, 01:31:26 PM »

I don't know, I think it was good for Van Dyke's vocals to be doubled. BTW, I sent an e-mail to Van Dyke awhile ago that expressed my deep admiration for "Donovan's Colours". I'm convinced that's why he revisited this Song Cycle style here.  Grin
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« Reply #29 on: October 10, 2010, 01:34:57 PM »

Can I email VDP too? Would he be any more likely (or less) to respond these days? I have nothing in particular to say, I guess, but I like the albums of his that I've heard very much and I think he should know this! (Plus, that's like two degree of separation from Brian Wilson, dig?)
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« Reply #30 on: October 10, 2010, 01:37:45 PM »

Yeah, a VDP Presents SMiLE would be a corker. His own arrangements......... how would he have done it bearing in mind the masterpiece Song Cycle which followed......  Cool

Judging from this arrangement it would be about twice as long.
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« Reply #31 on: October 10, 2010, 01:49:18 PM »

Can I email VDP too? Would he be any more likely (or less) to respond these days? I have nothing in particular to say, I guess, but I like the albums of his that I've heard very much and I think he should know this! (Plus, that's like two degree of separation from Brian Wilson, dig?)

Even if he didn't respond, I'm sure he'd appreciate your appreciation for his work. And I do think he'd respond to you, eventually.
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« Reply #32 on: October 10, 2010, 01:52:17 PM »

I kinda dig it. Sort of an 'unplugged' version. Although I agree with AGD, it would have been better without the woman's voice (no offense to her).
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« Reply #33 on: October 10, 2010, 02:15:22 PM »

I was honestly expecting to dislike it, for no other reason than the fact that I couldn't imagine the song working without all the harmonies.  I did enjoy his reimagining though, even if it sounds almost nothing like the original.  Van Dyke's arranging talent is such that he makes it work quite well.
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« Reply #34 on: October 10, 2010, 06:41:36 PM »

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Yes, his e-mail address is on his web site.  Google it. He did respond to me but his answer wasn't that encouraging. I asked him to share any information he could about the making of "Donovan's Colours" and here's what he said, to paraphrase:

"It was just an idea I had, a mood I was feeling, and I was very satisfied with the results."

A kind of Brian Wilsonesque answer. Then he plugged a book. But hey, at least he responded! I'm not complaining.
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« Reply #35 on: October 11, 2010, 03:12:43 AM »

Which book did he plug?
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« Reply #36 on: October 11, 2010, 06:47:57 AM »

It's a nice clip, but the woman's vocal is dispensable and, to my ears, unnecessary.


It was interesting to see him at the piano...I loved his Popeye work...one of my favorite scores...but don't understand the notion of the woman's voice being "dispensable" - Are women not part of the Americana journey, often caught in the romanticized "crossfire?"  Think Redford and Newman in Butch Cassidy?

Taylor sings on Heroes and Villains...Am I missing something? I thought she filled in the vocals very nicely.  Cool

It certainly gives a new meaning to the operatic dynamic...and the "interpretation" for performance possibilities... 
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« Reply #37 on: October 11, 2010, 07:03:30 AM »

Since Song Cycle, Van Dyke has employed female vocals on much of his stuff to astonishingly good effect.

Must give a nod here to Jennifer Warnes and Kathy Dalton's amazing contributions to Jump!
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« Reply #38 on: October 13, 2010, 12:46:58 PM »

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A 33 and 1/2 book on Song Cycle.
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« Reply #39 on: October 13, 2010, 02:48:19 PM »

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A 33 and 1/2 book on Song Cycle.

Which I've just read -  very enlightening too.
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« Reply #40 on: October 13, 2010, 10:08:47 PM »

Now I'll have to actually read it. Thanks.
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« Reply #41 on: October 14, 2010, 01:22:58 AM »

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A 33 and 1/2 book on Song Cycle.
'Ang on, 33 and 1/2? Mine's 33 and 1/3!
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« Reply #42 on: October 14, 2010, 01:29:31 AM »

Since Song Cycle, Van Dyke has employed female vocals on much of his stuff to astonishingly good effect.

Must give a nod here to Jennifer Warnes and Kathy Dalton's amazing contributions to Jump!

Good call, willy. I am totally in love with 'An Invitation To Sin', awesome stuff. It is sexy, attractive - but the ominous melody line reflects all the dangers that sexual sin may bring with it.
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« Reply #43 on: October 14, 2010, 05:11:26 PM »

I love how dramatic his performance is on the radio...Id love to catch him in Tallahassee, but its quite a drive  Violin
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« Reply #44 on: October 14, 2010, 07:21:06 PM »

I love how dramatic his performance is on the radio...Id love to catch him in Tallahassee, but its quite a drive  Violin

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« Reply #45 on: October 14, 2010, 07:40:03 PM »

VDP answered one of my emails back in 2004; I'd send him a note.

Loved that Heroes and Villains video...
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« Reply #46 on: October 14, 2010, 11:07:02 PM »

The whole concert from WNYC is now online:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=130569463
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« Reply #47 on: October 15, 2010, 02:32:25 AM »

The whole concert from WNYC is now online:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=130569463

Much obliged! How long will it be on there? How can I make a transfer to CDR? Pray tell...
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« Reply #48 on: October 15, 2010, 03:35:37 AM »

Thanks for that link! God bless Van Dyke Parks!
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« Reply #49 on: October 15, 2010, 11:45:54 PM »

The whole concert from WNYC is now online:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=130569463

Much obliged! How long will it be on there? How can I make a transfer to CDR? Pray tell...

Look for a program called "Sound Tap".  Inexpensive and effective for capturing streaming audio.
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