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Re: Are Brian's vocals actually Billy's? (Funky Pretty)
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Quote from: SloopJohnB on October 04, 2010, 12:27:46 AM
Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on October 04, 2010, 12:13:48 AM
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Well, if you're talking about the Steamboat snippet, it definitely COULD be Carl, but you seem to
know
it's him - I'm going to need a source for this. "My ears" is not a valid answer.
How about "it sounds incredibly like the guy singing the lead vocal, especially the last few notes" ?
It's not Brian for sure because he wasn't on that song at all.
Just to clarify things a bit, I'm not sure we're talking about the same thing; I'm talking about the wordless harmony: "
oooooooooh-aaaaaaaaah
" (two different notes only). This could be either Marilyn or Carl in my opinion.
Obviously, the "
roll, roll on, forever
" and "
river roll, forever
" parts are 100% Carl.
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I'm talking about the wordless vocal -
the one that doesn't use any recognisable words, right ?
- behind the vocal with words that is patently Carl.
It's not Marilyn for this reason: it's not a woman.
It's not Brian for these reasons: Brian's not on the recording at all... and it's very obviously Carl, at least to these ears that have been listening to Beach Boys recording for slightly over 35 years. It has that roundness and fullness that Carl had at that period in his life.
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Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on October 04, 2010, 12:53:02 AM
It's not Brian for these reasons: Brian's not on the recording at all... and it's very obviously Carl, at least to these ears that have been listening to beach Boys recording for slightly over 35 years. It has that roundness and fullness that Carl had at that period in his life.
You're older than me, so you must be right. It seems I should have chosen my birth year more carefully.
By the way, that was totally not Bruce at the end of the GOK 2007 promo video.
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Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on October 04, 2010, 12:53:02 AM
It's not Brian for these reasons: Brian's not on the recording at all... and it's very obviously Carl, at least to these ears that have been listening to beach Boys recording for slightly over 35 years. It has that roundness and fullness that Carl had at that period in his life.
You're older than me, so you must be right. It seems I should have chosen my birth year more carefully.
By the way, that was totally not Bruce at the end of the GOK 2007 promo video.
I know. I asked him.
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Wait...Brian's NOT on Steamboat?
Looks like I owe someone some money >_<
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I was almost positive that he was on Steamboat. I can hear a very nasal voice(not Mike, I don't think) on the line "We'll get your steamboat going" that I thought was Brian.
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Quote from: Billy C on October 04, 2010, 01:39:56 AM
Wait...Brian's NOT on Steamboat?
Looks like I owe someone some money >_<
Trade it off with the "Sail On, Sailor" bet.
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Oh, and as a small aside, when I downloaded a flac player, I also unwittingly downloaded some spyware called Relevant Knowledge which temporarily f*cked up my laptop and will cost me some time to delete completely from my registry.
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Oh, and as a small aside, when I downloaded a flac player, I also unwittingly downloaded some spyware called Relevant Knowledge which temporarily f*cked up my laptop and will cost me some time to delete completely from my registry.
Thanks, SloopJohnB,
really
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I could be mistaken but I thought Curtis posted the flacs, and not Sloop JB...
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Quote from: SMiLE-Holland on October 04, 2010, 02:37:02 AM
Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on October 04, 2010, 02:13:26 AM
Oh, and as a small aside, when I downloaded a flac player, I also unwittingly downloaded some spyware called Relevant Knowledge which temporarily f*cked up my laptop and will cost me some time to delete completely from my registry.
Thanks, SloopJohnB,
really
appreciate it. From now on, any flac files are staying where they are.
I could be mistaken but I thought Curtis posted the flacs, and not Sloop JB...
You're not, I am, and my humble apologies to SJB. As you can understand, not in the sunniest of moods right now. I don't like going into the registry but it's theonly way.
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Re: Are Brian's vocals actually Billy's? (Funky Pretty)
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Trade it off with the "Sail On, Sailor" bet.
In all seriousness though, this is why I *never* mess around with flacs. The last time I did, making a long story short, my hard drive ended up wiped.
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Re: Are Brian's vocals actually Billy's? (Funky Pretty)
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I don't know why you guys are having a hard time with .flac files. Download "VLC Player" and you'll have no problems. Norton Internet Security for screening viruses and you'll be happenin'. Use Windows 7 and you're dancing with the wolves. Never had any problems whatsoever with that combo.
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Quote from: Mikie on October 04, 2010, 06:10:21 AM
I don't know why you guys are having a hard time with .flac files. Download "VLC Player" and you'll have no problems. Norton Internet Security for screening viruses and you'll be happenin'. Use Windows 7 and you're dancing with the wolves. Never had any problems whatsoever with that combo.
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Windows 7...my computer is old and has a lot of issues...I still have XP on it and wouldn't even be able to run Vista.
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Re: Are Brian's vocals actually Billy's? (Funky Pretty)
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Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on October 04, 2010, 02:13:26 AM
Oh, and as a small aside, when I downloaded a flac player, I also unwittingly downloaded some spyware called Relevant Knowledge which temporarily f*cked up my laptop and will cost me some time to delete completely from my registry.
Thanks, SloopJohnB,
really
appreciate it. From now on, any flac files are staying where they are.
I agree with AGD, those wordless background vocals are definitely Carl. Because that's what Carl sounds like.
As for flacs, don't download some new software to play them, just find a plugin for your preferred listening software. It's not fair to blame someone for the particular software you downloaded. Flacs are just as valid as .wav, .mp3, or any other format. Even more so, since they are lossless.
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Quote from: monkeytree5 on October 04, 2010, 09:22:29 PM
Flacs are just as valid as .wav, .mp3, or any other format. Even more so, since they are lossless.
Uh, I'll take Flac files over Mp3's (even @320) any day of the week. And the reason I'm promoting VLC Player is that it plays pretty much everything under the Sun for me - both audio and video. No need to run around looking for add-on codecs - they're pretty much already self-contained.
Vista's troublesome. Windows XP SP3 runs better than that piece o' crap. Windows 7 seems to be rock solid and runs very smooth for me so far; never had an issue with it yet.
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Quote from: Mikie on October 04, 2010, 06:10:21 AM
I don't know why you guys are having a hard time with .flac files. Download "VLC Player" and you'll have no problems. Norton Internet Security for screening viruses and you'll be happenin'. Use Windows 7 and you're dancing with the wolves. Never had any problems whatsoever with that combo.
Norton sucks. I would not recommend it. Download Microsoft Security Essentials instead.
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Quote from: Mikie on October 04, 2010, 06:10:21 AM
I don't know why you guys are having a hard time with .flac files. Download "VLC Player" and you'll have no problems. Norton Internet Security for screening viruses and you'll be happenin'. Use Windows 7 and you're dancing with the wolves. Never had any problems whatsoever with that combo.
Norton sucks. I would not recommend it. Download Microsoft Security Essentials instead.
I like ESET.
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...or you could just get a mac...
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You can't PAY me enough to get a Mac.
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You can't PAY me enough to get a Mac.
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...or you could just get a mac...
...and instantly lose all your self-respect
This isn't particularly related to this thread's topic, but there are a few decent free antiviruses around.
Avira
and
Avast!
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Spybot Search & Destroy
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Back on topic: this "Steamboat" part sounds more and more like Carl the more I listen to it. Marilyn had come to mind because she's done other "low" harmonies that sometimes sounded pretty close to this.
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Pretty sure the first 'On my way'
is
sped up, but the other two are not. Bri's voice does sound pretty bad here though, bad enough to have the group cover for him singing 'spend'. It's like he's wheezing his way through those two sentences, though he still has most of his old tone. Sound like his voice is really deteriorating at this point, which is the likely reason he felt uncomfortable with leads during these year
Exaggerate much? He sounds exactly like he does on "'Til I Die" or "Take A Load Off Your Feet". And why would the first "on my way" section be sped up but not the entire thing?
On that note, I will forever be pissed at this band for not having Brian sing what he sings in the beginning over every chorus. They just feel completely lacking without that lead part, so much so that I drove myself to insanity pasting it over those parts.
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Pretty sure the first 'On my way'
is
sped up, but the other two are not. Bri's voice does sound pretty bad here though, bad enough to have the group cover for him singing 'spend'. It's like he's wheezing his way through those two sentences, though he still has most of his old tone. Sound like his voice is really deteriorating at this point, which is the likely reason he felt uncomfortable with leads during these year
Exaggerate much? He sounds exactly like he does on "'Til I Die" or "Take A Load Off Your Feet". And why would the first "on my way" section be sped up but not the entire thing?
On that note, I will forever be pissed at this band for not having Brian sing what he sings in the beginning over every chorus. They just feel completely lacking without that lead part, so much so that I drove myself to insanity pasting it over those parts.
No, I'm really not exaggerating. He sounds like he can barely get the sentence out, and clearly muffs it enough for the other guys to have to sing 'send' to cover for him. Also, compared to the other "On my Way"s, the first one DOES sound sped up. Why would they do that for only the first one? My guess is that's all they had for the original recording, but when they decided to put it out on a single they remixed it and had Brian do a couple more 'On my Way's because they thought it was cool and he was willing. Maybe that day he had no trouble with the pitch, so it wasn't slowed, or maybe the entire song was sped up after his original vocals were put on, but he just sang it at that faster speed when it came time to overdub the later parts.
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