Will Blondie Chaplin and Ricky Fataar be part of the reunion?

[GoogaMooga]

In which case, would Blondie leave the Rolling Stones touring band and join the Beach Boys in a reunion?

[the captain]

In which case, would Blondie leave the Rolling Stones touring band and join the Beach Boys in a reunion?

Leave a more steady, well-paying gig to be treated more or less as a sideman/third-rate member with a volatile band who can't even agree on whether they want to do anything and is unlikely to do more than a couple of shows, tops, ever again? Why would he? So the half dozen message board enthusiasts around the world will cheer when he makes it more "authentic" (to those few years he had anything to do with this band with a five-decade life)? I think not.

[GoogaMooga]

In which case, would Blondie leave the Rolling Stones touring band and join the Beach Boys in a reunion?

Leave a more steady, well-paying gig to be treated more or less as a sideman/third-rate member with a volatile band who can't even agree on whether they want to do anything and is unlikely to do more than a couple of shows, tops, ever again? Why would he? So the half dozen message board enthusiasts around the world will cheer when he makes it more "authentic" (to those few years he had anything to do with this band with a five-decade life)? I think not.

Well, we know that Al would like to do a major tour, but that still leaves out the other guys. Say for instance the Rolling Stones only tour one last time, that's of course two years on the road, but if the Beach Boys do a world tour, that would also be lucrative for Blondie. It depends how he feels about the Beach Boys gig and his role as a one time full member of the band. He's got no history with the Rolling Stones other than the last tour, I don't think.

[Mikie]

]Leave a more steady, well-paying gig to be treated more or less as a sideman/third-rate member

Blondie's a sideman/third-rate member with the Stones! 

[Dove Nested Towers]

Desper has said that the 2nd album is better than the 1st, with more elaborate production and superior melodies. Very high on the list of frustrating non-releases! Perhaps his efforts will pay off one of these days. I'm not holding my breath though.

[jeremylr]

Blondie's been with the Stones at least since the "Bridges To Babylon" album in 1997.  He was pretty much a utility player then, playing keys, bass, doing vocals, various percussion, but the Stones have always underutilized his talent.  He certainly doesn't get enough credit.

 Regardless, he's a superb musician & vocalist.  In a perfect world, Blondie & Ricky would do at least 1 major concert with the BB.

[adamghost]

To sing the lead on  "Don't Worry Baby" - Adrian Baker.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[The Shift]

To sing the lead on  "Don't Worry Baby" - Adrian Baker.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Thank gawd for the vooooice of reason!

[Mike's Beard]

Desper has said that the 2nd album is better than the 1st, with more elaborate production and superior melodies. Very high on the list of frustrating non-releases! Perhaps his efforts will pay off one of these days. I'm not holding my breath though.

Please do not quote me on this but I'm positive I read an interview with Mr. Desper about a year ago somewhere on the web in which he said that he had the tapes for the second album and had a few years prior, approached Brother for clearance to release them. In a nutshell they said no and that any means to get them released independently would result in legal action. Again my memory is shaky so I could be wrong.

[smile-holland]

I'd say the only CD reissue of anything Flame that was a LEGAL CD was the 1994 South African "Best of the Flames".

That might have tracks from the second album. I'll look for it.

If it's a straight reissue of the 1969 Trutone compilation, no. You don't seem to quite understand. The 2nd Flame album, recorded in the USA, was never released anywhere,

Nope, totally different compilation. Long OOP, but if you happen to visit SA, and you ask around in CD-shops, you still have a (small) chance of finding a copy.

[smile-holland]

Who's got the rights to the second album? If they were the biggest band in South Africa, there must be a market for this stuff. I quite like the Flame CD I've got, but it was a needle drop and rather muddy at that.

They were very big in South Africa - among the non-white audience. Then they left to try their luck overseas, got noticed by The BB and ended up in the US. I'm guessing Brother owns the rights to the 2nd album, although possession being nine points of the law, Steve Desper would have a very, very good claim as he's been the guardian of those tapes since 1970, not to mention producing them.

... amongst the white audience as well (albeit relatively speaking, being 10% of the total population). Their version of "For Your Precious Love" was a #1 smash hit. Which caused some confusion that year. The Flames were nominated for hit of the year in '68, but the jury decided that a non-white group shouldn't be awarded...

[bgas]

... amongst the white audience as well (albeit relatively speaking, being 10% of the total population). Their version of "For Your Precious Love" was a #1 smash hit. Which caused some confusion that year. The Flames were nominated for hit of the year in '68, but the jury decided that a non-white group shouldn't be awarded...

The Flame aren't white?

[Mikie]

With the Stones, Blondie's played keys, bass, doing vocals, various percussion, but the Stones have always underutilized his talent.  He certainly doesn't get enough credit. Regardless, he's a superb musician & vocalist. 

Very true.

[Magic Transistor Radio]

Is Manson still alive? He could get on stage to sing Cease to Exist.

[bgas]

Is Manson still alive? He could get on stage to sing Cease to Exist.

I don't think the BBs are doing prison shows any more

[Mike's Beard]

Hey, they did wonders for Johnny Cash's career. 

[Jason]

... amongst the white audience as well (albeit relatively speaking, being 10% of the total population). Their version of "For Your Precious Love" was a #1 smash hit. Which caused some confusion that year. The Flames were nominated for hit of the year in '68, but the jury decided that a non-white group shouldn't be awarded...

The Flame aren't white?

Have you even seen Blondie and Ricky? Never mind Steve and Brother Fataar. Seriously?

[bgas]

... amongst the white audience as well (albeit relatively speaking, being 10% of the total population). Their version of "For Your Precious Love" was a #1 smash hit. Which caused some confusion that year. The Flames were nominated for hit of the year in '68, but the jury decided that a non-white group shouldn't be awarded...

The Flame aren't white?

Have you even seen Blondie and Ricky? Never mind Steve and Brother Fataar. Seriously?

Yeah, I'm pretty sure I saw them live in 73. Seen their pictures on some LPs, too.
I guess what you're saying is they're not white, eh? 
I thought they were from one of the Mediterranean countries like Spain, France,Italy or Greece, maybe.
 Are you sure They're not white?

[Myk Luhv]

Oh my god

[Andrew G. Doe]

... amongst the white audience as well (albeit relatively speaking, being 10% of the total population). Their version of "For Your Precious Love" was a #1 smash hit. Which caused some confusion that year. The Flames were nominated for hit of the year in '68, but the jury decided that a non-white group shouldn't be awarded...

The Flame aren't white?

Have you even seen Blondie and Ricky? Never mind Steve and Brother Fataar. Seriously?

Yeah, I'm pretty sure I saw them live in 73. Seen their pictures on some LPs, too.
I guess what you're saying is they're not white, eh? 
I thought they were from one of the Mediterranean countries like Spain, France,Italy or Greece, maybe.
 Are you sure They're not white?

Anyone else around here getting a tad concerned about this sudden outbreak of rampant stupidity ?

[Andrew G. Doe]

And before anyone gets pissy with me, I refuse to believe a collector of the caliber of bgas (and he's one of the very biggest) doesn't know that The Flame were colored South Africans, so therefore I have to assume he's playing the part of a mentally handicapped person just for the hell of it. As a friend's father used to say, "not big, not clever". 

[Jason]

That's some fodido up repugnant merda, motherfucker.

[smile-holland]

... amongst the white audience as well (albeit relatively speaking, being 10% of the total population). Their version of "For Your Precious Love" was a #1 smash hit. Which caused some confusion that year. The Flames were nominated for hit of the year in '68, but the jury decided that a non-white group shouldn't be awarded...

The Flame aren't white?

Not for South African standards at the time... 


And please back on-topic now folks, I'm affraid we don't get each others jokes anymore. Use those Smileys               etc etc  if you think the topic might get a bit sensitive, and before you might get misunderstood....

[Eric Aniversario]

Interesting thread...I would love to see both be part of the reunion, if it happens.  But I concur about Mike Kowalski AND Adrian Baker...long time members or not, they just don't belong there!  Mike K is one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet, but his drumming was never really up to par in the 90's and 00's.  And Adrian has a better Frankie Valli voice than Frankie does, but 60's Brian Wilson he ain't!

[Andrew G. Doe]

... amongst the white audience as well (albeit relatively speaking, being 10% of the total population). Their version of "For Your Precious Love" was a #1 smash hit. Which caused some confusion that year. The Flames were nominated for hit of the year in '68, but the jury decided that a non-white group shouldn't be awarded...

The Flame aren't white?

Not for South African standards at the time... 


And please back on-topic now folks, I'm affraid we don't get each others jokes anymore. Use those Smileys               etc etc  if you think the topic might get a bit sensitive, and before you might get misunderstood....

I was always taught that the main quality of a joke was it being funny, or at least amusing. Someone acts like a moron around me, surprise !, they get treated like one.