Brian Wilson Songwriter DVD

[Runaways]

i'll def be looking to y'alls reviews to see if i get it

[Custom Machine]

AGD -

I've got "The Beach Boys Videobiography" written by Andrew Doe and John Tobler.  It's a book that contains one DVD, which I have not yet gotten around to watching, and a write up on each of the BB albums thru The Beach Boys in Concert (with an erroneous cover photo of Beach Boys' Concert for the 1973 album).  I have not yet read the book either, but I do see that the Sunflower writeup is identical to the one you posted in this thread.

For some reason, there is no copyright date to be found anywhere in the 72 page book, which looks to be very well written and definitely a keeper.  Could you tell me when this was published, or when the text was written?  I'd like to know, for historical purposes, as perspectives can change over time, especially when newly discovered info comes to light.

[Custom Machine]

Has anybody read "Endless Summer: My Life with the Beach Boys" by Jack Lloyd, released on July 26?

http://www.amazon.com/ENDLESS-SUMMER-LIFE-BEACH-BOYS/dp/1593931131/ref=wl_it_dp_o?ie=UTF8&coliid=I3N9RA5GE6VEN&colid=25GWJG6WZIJL5

[Andrew G. Doe]

AGD -

I've got "The Beach Boys Videobiography" written by Andrew Doe and John Tobler.  It's a book that contains one DVD, which I have not yet gotten around to watching, and a write up on each of the BB albums thru The Beach Boys in Concert (with an erroneous cover photo of Beach Boys' Concert for the 1973 album).  I have not yet read the book either, but I do see that the Sunflower writeup is identical to the one you posted in this thread.

For some reason, there is no copyright date to be found anywhere in the 72 page book, which looks to be very well written and definitely a keeper.  Could you tell me when this was published, or when the text was written?  I'd like to know, for historical purposes, as perspectives can change over time, especially when newly discovered info comes to light.

I wrote the text early spring 2007.

[bgas]

Has anybody read "Endless Summer: My Life with the Beach Boys" by Jack Lloyd, released on July 26?

http://www.amazon.com/ENDLESS-SUMMER-LIFE-BEACH-BOYS/dp/1593931131/ref=wl_it_dp_o?ie=UTF8&coliid=I3N9RA5GE6VEN&colid=25GWJG6WZIJL5

I have not, but thanxx for pointing it out! 
This could be interesting

[Pretty Funky]

Review from

http://www.beachboys.com/booksI.html

REVIEW:  Another book by another "insider" - Jack Lloyd's Endless Summer: My Life with The Beach Boys is readable, but filled with so much behind-the-scenes business deals and sleazy recounting of bedroom antics that I found it a dire experience.  Hired by Irving Granz to run the Beach Boys concerts (selling programs, counting the box office, and eventually doing promotional work), the author spends a great amount of time talking about the shady dealings behind the scenes, which included a lot of graft, a lot of theft, and a lot of favors.  Not only does he talk about The Beach Boys, but other acts that Granz handed him, including Sonny and Cher, The Pickle Brothers, and Paul Revere and the Raiders, to name but a few.  Fresh out of college, Lloyd learns the business from the ground up, and although he mostly paints himself with a virtuous brush, he has no qualms about showing the seamier side of show biz - with multiple lurid accounts of after-concert drunken orgies, drug use, stupid pranks, and irresponsible behavior, so that anyone who reads this will likely have any pre-conceptions about the personal lives of the Beach Boys irrevocably shattered.  No one is spared - Carl, Alan, Mike, Bruce and Dennis all have their exploits splashed over the pages, and Lloyd veers wildly between dry recounting of contracts, money disputes, graft, and white collar theft and sad, turgid scenes of young girls constantly prostituting themselves for the band and other hangers-on.  And despite the author's claim in the introduction that he limited both the foul language and the scenes of sexual escapades, this is a very R-rated book.  Since the author's time with the band was during the late 1960s, there are brief mentions of both the Maharishi and Charles Manson, but because Lloyd was primarily a business associate, his meetings with both were brief, and add little to the canon of knowledge.  Most comparable to Steven Gaines' seamy Heroes and Villains, Endless Summer tries hard to balance dry business facts with bedroom sleaze, and generally succeeds - unfortunately, it all left me with a bad taste in my mouth, and a little less respect for The Beach Boys.

[The Heartical Don]

Review from

http://www.beachboys.com/booksI.html

REVIEW:  Another book by another "insider" - Jack Lloyd's Endless Summer: My Life with The Beach Boys is readable, but filled with so much behind-the-scenes business deals and sleazy recounting of bedroom antics that I found it a dire experience.  Hired by Irving Granz to run the Beach Boys concerts (selling programs, counting the box office, and eventually doing promotional work), the author spends a great amount of time talking about the shady dealings behind the scenes, which included a lot of graft, a lot of theft, and a lot of favors.  Not only does he talk about The Beach Boys, but other acts that Granz handed him, including Sonny and Cher, The Pickle Brothers, and Paul Revere and the Raiders, to name but a few.  Fresh out of college, Lloyd learns the business from the ground up, and although he mostly paints himself with a virtuous brush, he has no qualms about showing the seamier side of show biz - with multiple lurid accounts of after-concert drunken orgies, drug use, stupid pranks, and irresponsible behavior, so that anyone who reads this will likely have any pre-conceptions about the personal lives of the Beach Boys irrevocably shattered.  No one is spared - Carl, Alan, Mike, Bruce and Dennis all have their exploits splashed over the pages, and Lloyd veers wildly between dry recounting of contracts, money disputes, graft, and white collar theft and sad, turgid scenes of young girls constantly prostituting themselves for the band and other hangers-on.  And despite the author's claim in the introduction that he limited both the foul language and the scenes of sexual escapades, this is a very R-rated book.  Since the author's time with the band was during the late 1960s, there are brief mentions of both the Maharishi and Charles Manson, but because Lloyd was primarily a business associate, his meetings with both were brief, and add little to the canon of knowledge.  Most comparable to Steven Gaines' seamy Heroes and Villains, Endless Summer tries hard to balance dry business facts with bedroom sleaze, and generally succeeds - unfortunately, it all left me with a bad taste in my mouth, and a little less respect for The Beach Boys.

Sounds like a fine read for long wintery evenings, with a good Pinot Noir within reach. Real literature. I will purchase it.

[The Shift]

Reading Lloyd's book now -  I agree with the review from BBs.com though, it's not a pleasant read, it's not very well written and the Beach Boys don't come out of it too well...  so far that is, I'm not very far into it yet. Possibly the sleaziest BBs read yet.

In fact, possibly a future collector's item as I'm sure one band member or another is bound to sue sooner or later, which might lead to the book being pulped or withdrawn.

[bgas]

Reading Lloyd's book now -  I agree with the review from BBs.com though, it's not a pleasant read, it's not very well written and the Beach Boys don't come out of it too well...  so far that is, I'm not very far into it yet. Possibly the sleaziest BBs read yet.

In fact, possibly a future collector's item as I'm sure one band member or another is bound to sue sooner or later, which might lead to the book being pulped or withdrawn.

Dang, better go buy a box of them now!

[Steve Mayo]

i just did.... 

[Mikie]

Whether or not it's comparable to the Gaines book, I'll buy it. If you're a real fan, you'll read/hear both sides. I enjoy reading about the crust and the crumbs just as much as the bread itself. We don't know that much about the Beach Boys in the late 60's - Manson being an exception. And we still don't know everything about that!

Personally, I really liked the Gaines book, as long as it was factual........ 

[Bicyclerider]

Love the sleaze - as long it's factual.  So they had sexual escapades with fans?  Oh the horrors!  I suspect their backstage antics are a bore compared to some bands, like Led Zeppelin.  But I'm all over it!

[rab2591]

Love the sleaze - as long it's factual.  So they had sexual escapades with fans?  Oh the horrors!  I suspect their backstage antics are a bore compared to some bands, like Led Zeppelin.  But I'm all over it!

Ever read Richard Cole's 'Stairway to Heaven'? Not much info on the band's musical abilities but mostly a great laugh when it comes to Zeppelin's pranks and antics.

[Paulos]

Speaking of new books I just saw this on amazon

http://www.creationbooks.com/creation-titles/SURFINWITHSATAN.html

 

[Steve Mayo]

Has anybody read "Endless Summer: My Life with the Beach Boys" by Jack Lloyd, released on July 26?

http://www.amazon.com/ENDLESS-SUMMER-LIFE-BEACH-BOYS/dp/1593931131/ref=wl_it_dp_o?ie=UTF8&coliid=I3N9RA5GE6VEN&colid=25GWJG6WZIJL5

well, looks like after this post you moved a few of the books for him. when i placed my orders earlier the book was ranked  715,000 something on amazon. right now it is ranked 54,623. not high but still a big jump up from earlier.

[Smilin Ed H]

"No one is spared - Carl, Alan, Mike, Bruce and Dennis all have their exploits splashed over the pages, and Lloyd veers wildly between dry recounting of contracts, money disputes, graft, and white collar theft and sad, turgid scenes of young girls constantly prostituting themselves for the band and other hangers-on. "  This may seem awfully un-pc now, but I'd be surprised if this wasn't the case with most bands/singers of that era or later, famous or not.

[Runaways]

yeah i would assume it was like that. 

[The Shift]

Okay, more than half-way through the book now.

Poorly written and very poorly copy-edited.

Some of the book is taken up with dull and uninteresting tales of checking the books after gigs, securing dates for support acts (not pimping, of course).

Couple of counters to David Leaf's book but minor fluff.

There's one account of 17 guys having relations with one girls in the same room at the same time (she called in support) but even the salacious stuff is poorly handled. Nowhere near on a par with any of the Led Zep biogs, for example.

This comes across as a bit player telling tales after school. Maybe less than ten per cent of the book is interesting so far.

And amazingly so far, for a book about the Beach Boys – even one that handles life on the road rather than in the studio – Brian hasn't been mentioned. Almost like he didn't exist.

[The Heartical Don]

Okay, more than half-way through the book now.

Poorly written and very poorly copy-edited.

Some of the book is taken up with dull and uninteresting tales of checking the books after gigs, securing dates for support acts (not pimping, of course).

Couple of counters to David Leaf's book but minor fluff.

There's one account of 17 guys having relations with one girls in the same room at the same time (she called in support) but even the salacious stuff is poorly handled. Nowhere near on a par with any of the Led Zep biogs, for example.

This comes across as a bit player telling tales after school. Maybe less than ten per cent of the book is interesting so far.

And amazingly so far, for a book about the Beach Boys – even one that handles life on the road rather than in the studio – Brian hasn't been mentioned. Almost like he didn't exist.

Thanks for helping me save some of my cash. So it'll be a porn DVD tonight then. Ah, well, never mind...

[The Shift]

... it'll be a porn DVD tonight then...

Again?

[The Heartical Don]

... it'll be a porn DVD tonight then...

Again?

Well, I'm tired of Tracy XXX and Sensi Lubbe by now. I know every still. Time for something fresh.

[bgas]

Okay, more than half-way through the book now.

Poorly written and very poorly copy-edited.

Some of the book is taken up with dull and uninteresting tales of checking the books after gigs, securing dates for support acts (not pimping, of course).

Couple of counters to David Leaf's book but minor fluff.

There's one account of 17 guys having relations with one girls in the same room at the same time (she called in support) but even the salacious stuff is poorly handled. Nowhere near on a par with any of the Led Zep biogs, for example.

This comes across as a bit player telling tales after school. Maybe less than ten per cent of the book is interesting so far.

And amazingly so far, for a book about the Beach Boys – even one that handles life on the road rather than in the studio – Brian hasn't been mentioned. Almost like he didn't exist.

Ahh, I was so counting on this being a really great read, since trading emails with his daughter last year? 
Seeing as how it sounds like a book written mostly about life on the road, it's probably not too surprising that Brian is missing. It's possible the author never even met Brian.
Guess it's better to wait for the inevitable Made for TV movie, which, if the book is as bad as you say, will surely happen. 

[punkinhead]

wouldn't it be something if a 2nd volume of this dvd came out for the 70s era? Had some remarkably rare demos for say: American Spring? (like the demo for Awake? btw, when was this recorded?) Anyways, wouldnt it be awesome to hear him sing Sweet Mountain with just a piano accompany?
perhaps more 73-75 material? 

only in my dreams

[Andrew G. Doe]

... (like the demo for Awake? btw, when was this recorded?)

Gigs & sessions 1971

[Emdeeh]

Just finished Lloyd's book. The only good thing I can say about it is that there are some great, previously unpublished photos of the guys in it.

The rest, well there are lots of self-repetition, at least one factual error (regarding where the BBs were when MLK was shot), and plenty of sleaze that doesn't add anything worthwhile to the story.