THE BEACH BOYS EYING UP TO FIVE FREE GLOBAL REUNION SHOWS

[Don_Zabu]

Hey I love to be proved wrong as I said but take your example Coke. The advertising I have seen from them for ever has been aimed at the young, their core market. I love the Beach Boys but can't see the band members selling their product.

Then you must have missed this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahe2r5fB5hU

How do the Beach Boys and penguins always end up together like this?

[Andrew G. Doe]

According to the BBB, Bruce is taking his "I only want to be a spectator in the fifth row" stance again claiming that it's no reunion without Dennis and Carl which is weird cause he's had no problem playing with the band without Dennis for 27 years and Carl for 12..... However, push comes to shove, Bruce hasn't left Mike's footsteps in 30 years, I can't see him taking a stance now. I could be wrong.

Bruce has a very dry SOH sometimes. 

[Paulos]

I'm never sure whether Bruce is joking or if he is in fact the real crazy one!

[Smilin Ed H]

Hasn't Bruce been a 'Beach Boy' longer than he was a Beach Boy?

[Cam Mott]

Hasn't Bruce been a Beach Boy as long as or longer than anyone save Mike?

[Rocker]

But 50 years is major. No one's really done the 50th in Rock.

I think this is the most important argument for a special event with big media and a very well planned, tasteful celebration. No band ever has been able to celebrate 50 years (!) in the business and feature so many original members. This is probably the last time the Beach Boys will have the opportunity for something large....

[Andrew G. Doe]

Hasn't Bruce been a Beach Boy as long as or longer than anyone save Mike?

Lessee...

Mike - 1961-date [49 years]
Bruce - 1965-72, 1978-date [40 years in two spells]
Carl - 1961-81, 1982-98 [36 years in two spells]
Brian - 1961-96 [35 years]
Alan - 1961-62, 1963-98 [just over 35 years in two spells]
Dennis - 1961-83 [22 years]
David - 1962-63, 1997-99, 2008-09 [4 years in three spells]
Ricky - 1971-74 [3 years]
Blondie - 1971-73 [2 years]

Yup.  

[Andrew G. Doe]

a very well planned, tasteful celebration.

Excuse me while I roll on the floor for half an hour or so, crying with laughter. 

[Rocker]

a very well planned, tasteful celebration.

Excuse me while I roll on the floor for half an hour or so, crying with laughter. 

That's why I called it an "argument for...". Of course we know that there will never be anything like that when it's the Beach Boys....

[Cam Mott]

Hasn't Bruce been a Beach Boy as long as or longer than anyone save Mike?

Lessee...

Mike - 1961-date [49 years]
Bruce - 1965-72, 1978-date [40 years in two spells]
Carl - 1961-81, 1982-98 [36 years in two spells]
Brian - 1961-96 [35 years]
Alan - 1961-62, 1963-98 [just over 35 years in two spells]
Dennis - 1961-83 [22 years]
David - 1962-63, 1997-99, 2008-09 [4 years in three spells]
Ricky - 1971-74 [3 years]
Blondie - 1971-73 [2 years]

Yup.  

I thought so. Maybe a tad long on Bri's years of service? To the touring BBs anyway? Aww, but who's counting.

[PongHit]

Bruce - 1965-72, 1978-date [40 years in two spells]
Carl - 1961-81, 1982-98 [36 years in two spells]
Brian - 1961-96 [35 years]
Alan - 1961-62, 1963-98 [just over 35 years in two spells]
Dennis - 1961-83 [22 years]
David - 1962-63, 1997-99, 2008-09 [4 years in three spells]
Ricky - 1971-74 [3 years]
Blondie - 1971-73 [2 years]
Yup.  

You forgot Stamos.






















Thank god.

[The Shift]

Bruce - 1965-72, 1978-date [40 years in two spells]
Carl - 1961-81, 1982-98 [36 years in two spells]
Brian - 1961-96 [35 years]
Alan - 1961-62, 1963-98 [just over 35 years in two spells]
Dennis - 1961-83 [22 years]
David - 1962-63, 1997-99, 2008-09 [4 years in three spells]
Ricky - 1971-74 [3 years]
Blondie - 1971-73 [2 years]
Yup. 

You forgot Stamos.






















Thank god.

I hope we can all forget Stamos.

[drbeachboy]

I see no reason with today's technology why Carl and Dennis cannot be a part of this reunion. There is lots of concert footage that could be shown with them singing their songs, even as the live band plays alongside. God Only Knows, Darlin', Forever, You Are So Beautiful, and even Good Vibrations could be performed live musically, while footage is shown of Carl & Dennis performing those songs. Those two guys need to be honored just as much as the rest of the band.

[Don_Zabu]

I see no reason with today's technology why Carl and Dennis cannot be a part of this reunion. There is lots of concert footage that could be shown with them singing their songs, even as the live band plays alongside. God Only Knows, Darlin', Forever, You Are So Beautiful, and even Good Vibrations could be performed live musically, while footage is shown of Carl & Dennis performing those songs. Those two guys need to be honored just as much as the rest of the band.

I heard they do the same thing with Elvis - play old clips of him performing on stage and have a band perform with them.

[Andrew G. Doe]

I see no reason with today's technology why Carl and Dennis cannot be a part of this reunion. There is lots of concert footage that could be shown with them singing their songs, even as the live band plays alongside. God Only Knows, Darlin', Forever, You Are So Beautiful, and even Good Vibrations could be performed live musically, while footage is shown of Carl & Dennis performing those songs. Those two guys need to be honored just as much as the rest of the band.

Unlikely to happen - that would be a big problem with Brian.

[Rocker]

I see no reason with today's technology why Carl and Dennis cannot be a part of this reunion. There is lots of concert footage that could be shown with them singing their songs, even as the live band plays alongside. God Only Knows, Darlin', Forever, You Are So Beautiful, and even Good Vibrations could be performed live musically, while footage is shown of Carl & Dennis performing those songs. Those two guys need to be honored just as much as the rest of the band.

I heard they do the same thing with Elvis - play old clips of him performing on stage and have a band perform with them.

Not "a" band, but his original TCB-band, that is the same guys that played on the original videos they used. Kinda like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-jACfzjPkk&feature=fvsr

But somehow I kinda can't see this happening with the Beach Boys

[drbeachboy]

Unlikely to happen - that would be a big problem with Brian.

What would be the problem? He used Carl's vocal for "Soul Searchin". How do you not include the heart & soul of the band?

[?]

Unlikely to happen - that would be a big problem with Brian.

What would be the problem? He used Carl's vocal for "Soul Searchin". How do you not include the heart & soul of the band?

He's clearly not over their deaths.  Didn't he eliminate Forever from his setlist because it was too painful for him to do?

[TdHabib]

Unlikely to happen - that would be a big problem with Brian.

What would be the problem? He used Carl's vocal for "Soul Searchin". How do you not include the heart & soul of the band?

He's clearly not over their deaths.  Didn't he eliminate Forever from his setlist because it was too painful for him to do?

Exactly, he stated as much in TWOTS podcast.

[drbeachboy]

I'm sure that is the case. Didn't know about Forever being eliminated. He performed it at shows that I attended. For a guy that is so quoted about being spiritual and all, I find it difficult to understand why he can't handle death. It is the only thing that we are guaranteed in life (and taxes). Dennis has been gone for 27 years and Carl 12. I think it would be healthy if he finally came to terms with it. Oh well, I shouldn't be surprised by any of this. It is The Beach Boys for goodness-sakes.

[Rocker]

I think it would be healthy if he finally came to terms with it.

Well, that's just theory, it's something totally different if you experience it. Especially considering Brian's mental situation which was not healthy when they were alive to begin with. Of course you're right when you say, that at some point one should get over it, but what when you still seem to hear voices in your head that seem to come from your relationship with your father ?

[Bicyclerider]

Corporate sponsorship aside, a TV special (or cable/HBO/Showtime special) on the 50th anniversary concerts, along with ticket sales and the inevitable DVD to follow, would probably pay for the concerts themselves.

[drbeachboy]

I think it would be healthy if he finally came to terms with it.

Well, that's just theory, it's something totally different if you experience it. Especially considering Brian's mental situation which was not healthy when they were alive to begin with. Of course you're right when you say, that at some point one should get over it, but what when you still seem to hear voices in your head that seem to come from your relationship with your father ?

So, because Brian has not come to grips with his brothers deaths, then we're all supposed to pretend that Dennis and Carl were never part of the Beach Boys when this reunion tour takes place next year? Hopefully then, they will at least get a mention during the shows. I never cease to be amazed!

[b00ts]

I think it would be healthy if he finally came to terms with it.

Well, that's just theory, it's something totally different if you experience it. Especially considering Brian's mental situation which was not healthy when they were alive to begin with. Of course you're right when you say, that at some point one should get over it, but what when you still seem to hear voices in your head that seem to come from your relationship with your father ?

So, because Brian has not come to grips with his brothers deaths, then we're all supposed to pretend that Dennis and Carl were never part of the Beach Boys when this reunion tour takes place next year? Hopefully then, they will at least get a mention during the shows. I never cease to be amazed!

I understand your chagrin about Carl and Dennis not being given the spotlight they deserve due to Brian's inability to cope with their deaths. They certainly merit much more than a passing mention at any Beach Boys reunion show, as they were integral parts of the group, shaping its sound and writing and singing many of the band's most important and best-loved songs.

That said... it's pretty easy for an observer to criticize Brian for his inability to face the deaths of his brothers. "What the hell is the guy's problem, he can't handle or come to terms with the deaths of his brothers?" It is a very glib, entitled way to look at the situation, although perhaps for the right reasons, as Carl and Dennis deserve a mention.

Truly, the death of a sibling is a momentous thing for someone to overcome. Factor in Brian's mental illness, as well as the bad times / isolated periods where he wasn't able to communicate with his brothers or where he probably feels like he let them down, and it's perfectly understandable that he doesn't want to publicly reckon with their losses. Sure, he did Soul Searchin' but that was in the studio.

To you and I, this is a band. To Brian, this was his family, and he probably never expected to outlive his entire immediate family, especially Carl. He needs to mourn/cope in his own way, even all these years later. He should not need to explain to anyone why he can't come to terms with their deaths in the most public arena imaginable (a literal arena, in fact!)

[drbeachboy]

Brian has come a long way in his overall good health, mental or otherwise. He did this through getting the proper help. Not being able to deal with deaths after 27 and 12 years is not good and not healthy. Also, I see no difference between using Carl's vocal in the studio and using a video in a concert. Geez, when it comes to Brian, we all defend his behavior whether it is correct or not. After this post I am giving up talking about it. It is what it is, and my opinion means absolutely nothing. This is all typical crap that happens in Beach Boys World. Oy!