Songs That Need To Be Heard...WINTLA/ Big Sur...?

[kirkmc- banned on the run]

Maybe on the next comp?

1) Wouldn't It Be Nice to Live Again
2) Carry Me Home
3) Big Sur (Outtake)
4) It's Over Now
5) Your Still A Mystery

Any Others the public should Hear?

[mikeyj]

4) It's Over Now

I'd rather something else that we don't already have like "I'm Going Your Way" or something.

[Andrew G. Doe]

4) It's Over Now

I'd rather something else that we don't already have like "I'm Going Your Way" or something.

Plus, it was released seventeen years ago.

[SurfRiderHawaii]

4) It's Over Now

I'd rather something else that we don't already have like "I'm Going Your Way" or something.

Plus, it was released seventeen years ago.

HTWFAIP

[Stegibo]

4) It's Over Now

I'd rather something else that we don't already have like "I'm Going Your Way" or something.

Plus, it was released seventeen years ago.

HTWFAIP

FTPWHGGH

[Andrew G. Doe]

4) It's Over Now

I'd rather something else that we don't already have like "I'm Going Your Way" or something.

Plus, it was released seventeen years ago.

HTWFAIP

FTPWHGGH

Too early for me to start talking acronyms, so the intended effect is totally wasted (and yes, I misread the original response - like I said, too early: need more tea).  

Edit - now, with more tea down me, no, I didn't misread it. For them as hasn't been following the plot, "It's Over Now" was released on the 1993 box set.

[The Shift]

Likewise...

[Foster's Freeze]

I feel like I am reading something from "Hooked on Phonics"

[slothrop]

My Solution
California Feeling (Brian's original recording...this one I really want to hear since I like all other version except the one with Rocky)
Everybody Wants to Live
It's Trying to Say (Baseball)
I Do (from Sweet Insanity)

Oh, and Rollin' Up to Heaven/Hard Time/Ding Dang (dirty version) or whatever its actually called too. They sound like they're having a gas on that one.

[Andrew G. Doe]

1 - (Wouldn't It Be Nice To) Live Again
2 - You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin'
3 - I've Got A Friend (even track only, it's killer)
4 - Carry Me Home
5 - Sherry, She Needs Me.

[JaredLekites]

"Wouldn't It Be Nice To Live Again" and the '74 "California Feeling" are my two biggies.

Did anyone notice that "It's Over Now" runs a little slow on the GV box set? It's especially evident in Carl and Marlyn's vocals. 

[adamghost]

"I Will Always Love You" (part of which was played during the Carl Wilson tribute film) from the KTSA sessions.

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

California Feelin' (1974)
Lucy Jones - I would *kill* to hear as much of Brian's vocals from this period as possible.
 (Wouldn't It Be Nice To) Live Again
You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin'
Everybody Wants to Live (my favorite post Holland song, save Where I Belong)
Carry Me Home

[Andrew G. Doe]

Lucy Jones - I would *kill* to hear as much of Brian's vocals from this period as possible.

The vocal is traded between Brian & Stevie K. Errrrrrr... it's not very good. Brian's in full-on shouty mode.

[Jay]

4) It's Over Now

I'd rather something else that we don't already have like "I'm Going Your Way" or something.

Plus, it was released seventeen years ago.

HTWFAIP

FTPWHGGH

1. RUTH
2. IGYW
3. EWTLA
4. IGAF
5. CMH
6. DD
7. YLTLF
8. OL 1985 version
9. SSNM
10. CF demo
11. LJ demo
12. IAM from the KTSA sessions
13. JBG from the KTSA sessions.
14. OD version with BW vocal.

[Jason]

Ok, let's take stock for a minute on all these "goodies" that people so desperately want released. I'll go through my list of goodies just to see what is actually of release quality. Smile material left off as that's just gonna lead to bitching. I'll cover up to 1974 now and continue later.

One Way Road To Love, 1962 - Hmmmm...while it's of SOME merit for the period, it might not be released mainly because Gary Usher sings the lead. The band plays and sings backups on the track.

The Beginning of the End, 1962 - The sessions are all over the place; the overdubs were never completed, but I'm sure a "makeshift" version could be made out of the tapes by Mark Linett a la 4th of July
or Soulful Old Man Sunshine. It's decent for 1962. The title's eerily prophetic. Brian sings lead.

Visions, 1962 - This one was later reworked by Brian as "Number One" for Rachel and the Revolvers. Brian's double-tracked and heavily reverbed lead vocal is great. Possibly...

My Only Alibi, 1962 - See One Way Road To Love.

Thank Him, 1963 - Brian and Bob Norberg reeling off songs in their apartment. This came to light a few years ago. It's amazingly transcendent and beautiful. It's a great song and performance. The fact that the only surviving copy is taken from a damaged acetate kind of hurts its chances. "Every effort has been made to ensure optimum sound quality. However, priority has been given to historical content."

Ride Away, 1963 - This one's pretty cool but due to it being the Honeys and a non-Beach Boy singing (I think it's Bob Norberg), probably not. Maybe on a future BW productions CD?

Pink Champagne/Side Two, 1963 - Boring instrumental. Most likely will be released, since Punchline was considered worthy for some reason.

Back Home, 1963 - The master tapes are compromised for this one; what you hear on the boots is how it exists on tape according to, I believe, either Mark or Alan Boyd. There is an acetate of the master that circulates with much better sound quality, and it's in surprisingly good shape. Brian in a very early Spector-ish mode. Damn good stuff.

Mother May, 1963 - Typical 1963 rock with an irritating Brian lead vocal. Doubt it.

The Big Beat, 1963 - As with Mother May. This is an embyronic Do You Remember. Brian's on it, as are the Honeys and Bob Norberg. Doubt it.

Marie, 1963 - Kind of a bluesy style. I'm not 100% convinced it's Brian on vocals, but the Honeys are definitely there. Cool song.

Untitled instrumental, 1963 - As with Side Two, a boring, cliched instrumental. No.

Let's Live Before We Die, 1964 - unfinished and very fragmented. Not a snowball's chance in hell.

Sandy, 1965 - it sounds great, doesn't it? The lack of a lead vocal probably points to no.

Amusement Parks, USA, 1965 - different lyrics and vocals. But it's not exactly Dance, Dance, Dance in Nashville with a radically different arrangement. But stranger things have happened.

(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction, 1965 - Party! outtake. Lots of fun. Lots. Why not?

Blowin' In The Wind, 1965 - Party! outtake. Transcendent. Beautiful. Absolutely should be released.

Ticket To Ride, 1965 - Party! outtake. Cool to hear another Beatles song, but considering how the vocals are off the mic, maybe not.

Riot In Cell Block #9, 1965 - Party! outtake. Considering how much they performed it in the early 1970s, it certainly would make sense to have a legal copy. It's fun. Probably not.

Laugh At Me/One Kiss Led To Another, 1965 - Party! outtake. Unless Bob Dylan still has his sense of humor, probably not. Michael's Bob Dylan parody vocal is hilarious.

The Diary, 1965 - Party! outtake. This one is all over the place. This was one that Bruce brought to the table during the Party! sessions. The band doesn't take it seriously. But the album was the same way. Why not?

California Girls, 1965 - Party! outtake. Lots of fun. It works quite well. Wouldn't hurt.

Heart And Soul/Long Tall Sally, 1965 - Party! outtake. All over the place. But not in a good way. Maybe not.

Smokey Joe's Cafe, 1965 - Party! outtake. Cool to hear Michael butcher another old R&B chestnut. It's cool.

Unknown instrumental, 1965 - Two pianos. A mild curiosity, but I don't think it'll happen.

Three Blind Mice, 1965 - As it's obviously unfinished and the most complete take is barely a minute, probably not. It is cool to hear where Brian was going with it.

Stella By Starlight, 1965 - This is something that should be used as torture. Not a chance.

How Deep Is The Ocean, 1965 - See Stella By Starlight.

Unknown instrumental, 1966 - Piano and bass; some people believe this is an early Dennis song. It was put on the Pet Sounds box in truncated form. Interesting, but not exactly necessary.

Row, Row, Row Your Boat, 1966 - Brian, Marilyn, and Diane. Ad infinitum for seven minutes with tons of overdubs. 'Nuff said.

Teeter-Totter Love, 1967 - Jasper Dailey admits that it's sh*t. He had the pleasure of singing it. HIGHLY doubt it.

I Don't Know, 1967 - Dennis' first production. It exists, but is just a basic track. I'd certainly love to hear it but I think it'll end up on boots before it ends up on a legal release.

Tones, 1967 - Carl's first production. It goes nowhere. It's also unfinished. It sounds like Penny Lane. Don't think so, no matter how cool it sounds.

Hawaiian Song, 1967 - Alan Boyd said part of this was used in Little Pad. Who knows?

Good Time Mama, 1967 - It can't be found.

Good News, 1967 - See Good Time Mama.

You're So Good To Me, 1967 - Lei'd In Hawaii "rehearsal". It sounds cool, but to what end?

Help You, Rhonda, 1967 - See You're So Good To Me.

Surfer Girl, 1967 - See You're So Good To Me.

California Girls, 1967 - See You're So Good To Me.

Surfin', 1967 - See You're So Good To Me.

Good Vibrations, 1967 - See You're So Good To Me.

Heroes and Villains, 1967 - See You're So Good To Me. And also, not while Brian's alive. It would ruin his reputation as the perfect victim.

Game Of Love, 1967 - Recorded during the Heider sessions. Michael on lead vocal. It was on an early track list for Wild Honey. Might be cool to hear.

Honey Get Home, 1967 - Recorded during the Wild Honey period. Just a basic track, no vocals. Don't think it'll happen, but, stranger things, y'know.

Bluebirds Over The Mountain, 1967 - This was the original (read: undubbed) version that Bruce laid down in 1967. Bruce played the bass and drums himself, Carl might be on acoustic guitar, and there are some vibes on it. It's cool to hear, but to what end?

Tune #L, 1967 - Another Dennis production. If it exists is anyone's guess. It would be nice to hear another BB-related tune with a Tannerin.

My Little Red Book, 1968 - Not a long-lost Smile track, but a Friends outtake. Very basic, like Sail Plane Song. I like it a lot.

New Song, 1968 - Not a long-lost Smile track, but another Friends outtake. Eerie as f***. Honestly, I don't think it'll happen, no matter how cool it sounds.

Walkin', 1968 - Very bluesy, although Brian couldn't care less. You can actually hear him say "I don't wanna sing it" at the beginning.

We're Together Again, 1968 - This is the so-called "country version". The lack of a lead vocal weighs highly against it.

Oh Yeah, 1968 - The Beach Boys and a kid invent hip-hop? Cool, but I don't think this will suddenly give them any swagg.

Fig Plucker, 1968 - A ridiculous tongue-twister committed to tape. And considering it sounds like they're saying "pig f*cker" when they mess it up, I don't think so.

Mona Kanau, 1968 - A Dennis song. It exists as only a backing track, although Stevie Kalinich wrote a set of lyrics. On good authority, they're very dumb. But the track's a lot of fun.

Tale of Man, 1968 - Dennis and Stevie Kalinich. I don't know if it exists.

Unknown instrumental, 1969 - Brian fooling around on a piano with the strings taped down. It sounds like a piss take. Don't think so.

I'm Going Your Way, 1969 - Dennis rocks and rolls and even throws in a guitar solo! Scratch vocal or not, this was one of the best things to ever, ever leak. I freaked out when I first heard it in '04. This one is definitely on the shortlist of stuff that DESERVES a release.

Carnival/Over The Waves, 1969 - A chant based on the old 20s tune. Cool for the panning effects, but not much else.

Back Home, 1969 - The "demo" version, with just piano and Brian and Al duetting. They'd have to edit out Al saying "bitch" before the track begins, but why not?

Back Home, 1969 - Down home funky folk rock. Al kills it on lead vocal. The harmonica is great. It'd be cool to have on a real disc.

Barbara, 1969 - Dennis' piano "demo" of what became Barbara. The changes are there. Maybe on a future Dennis release?

Let The Wind Blow, 1970 - The Wild Honey track, but with an unknown female vocalist by the name of "Amy". Apparently she was considered for a signing to Brother Records. When you hear this you'll know why nothing came of it.

Seasons In The Sun, 1970 - Ok, so Terry Jacks wanted the Beach Boys to do it. That's all well and good, but let's not forget that it's a Rod McKuen translation of a Jacques Brel lyric. It's toxic. By far the worst thing they had ever recorded up to that point.

Big Sur, 1970 - Michael's Holland tune, but done much earlier and, arguably, better. Total bliss. Another one for the shortlist.

H.E.L.P. Is On The Way, 1970 - Yes, it was released on the Good Vibes box, but it was the later overdubbed version from the Adult/Child period. The early version is more country/folkish. And somehow it's more disturbing.

My Solution, 1970 - This one is a guilty pleasure. People like us wouldn't mind it so much, but the lyrics referencing experiments on animals might rub the wrong people the wrong way. Do we really want PETA idiots spamming the board?

Won't You Tell Me, 1970 - This one was the "demo" for a Sunrays track written by Murry Wilson and Rick Fenn. The Beach Boys are on it, but the circulating acetate just has Brian and Carl's voices. It's saccharine-sweet and will give you a toothache.

Mr. Sandman/The Chipmunk Song/God Only Knows, 1971 - Total hilarity, just to hear Al, Bruce, and Michael have fun in a big time of uncertainty for them is a bit liberating. The Brianistas would freak at the destruction of God Only Knows. And damn them to hell for it.

Behold The Night, 1971 - A Dennis track for his incomplete 1972 album Poops or Hubba Hubba. Apparently this one did have a lead vocal. It might happen considering the recent surge in Dennis interest.

Ecology, 1971 - Another Dennis track for the Poops or Hubba Hubba project. This one, contrary to popular belief, DOES circulate. If you take the so-called "Organ Duet" and "Piano Duet" that circulate, stick the "Piano Duet" on top of the "Organ Duet" at the 12 second mark, then stick the "All Of My Love" bit after it, then the so-called "Follow Me To The Sea" instrumental after that, you have Ecology. Dennis is very much in a Smile frame of mind here. Very experimental.

Unknown instrumental, 1971 - Another Dennis track from the Poops or Hubba Hubba period. Lots of moody changes.

Old Movie, 1971 - An embryonic version of Cuddle Up.

(Wouldn't It Be Nice To) Live Again, 1971 - Need I say more?

Baby Baby, 1972 - Another Dennis song from Poops or Hubba Hubba sessions. Apparently the Boys played it in fall 1972. Of course, no audio evidence to back it up. Who knows?

Slow Song, 1972 - Another Poops or Hubba Hubba thing.

Out In The Country, 1972 - The Boys in an early Holland sound. It's obviously unfinished but it's fun.

Carry Me Home, 1972 - Another one for the shortlist.

It's A New Day, 1972 - Dennis wrote this one, Blondie sings it. Apparently Dennis wanted to sell it for a shampoo commercial. And he was threatened with being thrown out the window for it. The song isn't THAT bad.

Hard Times, 1972 - A Blondie/Ricky tune, done after the Holland sessions. Great rocker. Probably won't happen, and that's a shame.

Rollin' Up To Heaven, 1974 - Big tits f*cker. While it would certainly be nice, the constant use of the word "tit" kind of seals its fate.

The Battle Hymn of the Republic, 1974 - For this one I have a little scenario. Names changed to protect the innocent.

Random Endless Harmony compiler - Holy dog sh*t, look what we found!!
Another random Endless Harmony compiler - What?!?
Random Endless Harmony compiler - The Beach Boys did The Battle Hymn of the Republic!
Another random Endless Harmony compiler - Jesus c*ck gobbling Christ on a pogo stick! WE GOTTA PUT THIS ONE OUT!
Random Endless Harmony compiler - Call Jardine. He'll go for it.

(Five minutes later)

(Phone rings)

Al Jardine - Hello?
Another random Endless Harmony compiler - Al! What's up?
Al Jardine - Not much.
Another random Endless Harmony compiler - Guess what we found that will be great on the new compilation?
Al Jardine - What's that?
Another random Endless Harmony compiler - The Battle Hymn of the Republic.

(Silence)

Al Jardine - Uhhh, have you guys actually heard it yet?
Another random Endless Harmony compiler - No.
Al Jardine - Ohhhh boy...

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

Lucy Jones - I would *kill* to hear as much of Brian's vocals from this period as possible.

The vocal is traded between Brian & Stevie K. Errrrrrr... it's not very good. Brian's in full-on shouty mode.

I know...that's why I want to hear it! In any case, I have an obsession with that time period

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

Mr. Sandman/The Chipmunk Song/God Only Knows, 1971 - Total hilarity, just to hear Al, Bruce, and Michael have fun in a big time of uncertainty for them is a bit liberating. The Brianistas would freak at the destruction of God Only Knows. And damn them to hell for it.

This is from 1971?! All this time i thought this was Brian from 1967...so he's not even on it?

[Jay]

What is the "eerie as f***" New Song? Does it circulate?

[Jay]

I once read somewhere that Getcha Back started out when Dennis was still living. Is this true?

[Jon Stebbins]

Its A New Day is likely from '71 as Blondie told us its his very first BB's related session.

[Mahalo]

I'd say that anything that is out there needs to be heard, good or not. I consider this work of Brian and his family to be of utmost historical importance and needs to be documented and heard for posterity and education. Perhaps it will be a long time for there to be another sociological phenomena like the 1960's/through late 20th century music scene, of which Brian's work is the premier imo.

What a unique time, for the first time in history where raw talent and technology collided to give us some of the most beautiful art we could imagine. The creative process is something to be understood, even if it's Brian farting on a cymbal. Perhaps in those "Stella By Starlight" moments the seed of something greater was being planted...even if they were seeds of torture.

I'd say that the one I would cherish the most would be a fully produced Sandy...all well. At least we have Then I Kissed Her...

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

Well put noname...agreed with your sentiments.

[kirkmc- banned on the run]

I think the point may be-that there's just not that much quality stuff that remains. Aside from a Smile 67 box...The public simply wouldn't be attracked to that much more than a few songs...At best...Cheers.

[Andrew G. Doe]

"Ecology, 1971 - Another Dennis track for the Poops or Hubba Hubba project. This one, contrary to popular belief, DOES circulate. If you take the so-called "Organ Duet" and "Piano Duet" that circulate, stick the "Piano Duet" on top of the "Organ Duet" at the 12 second mark, then stick the "All Of My Love" bit after it, then the so-called "Follow Me To The Sea" instrumental after that, you have Ecology. Dennis is very much in a Smile frame of mind here. Very experimental."

Might be what's circulating and tagged as "Ecology", but trust me, it's nothing like what's in the Brother tape box labelled "Ecology". Dennis had nothing at all to do with this edit - understandably enough, as he'd been dead some years by the time it was assembled by a well-meaning but overly ambitious fan from existing fragments of hugely varying quality. The real "Ecology" lasts about six minutes, incorporating some parts we know, some which haven't been booted.

"The Battle Hymn of the Republic, 1974 - For this one I have a little scenario. Names changed to protect the innocent.

Random Endless Harmony compiler - Holy dog merda, look what we found!!
Another random Endless Harmony compiler - What?!?
Random Endless Harmony compiler - The Beach Boys did The Battle Hymn of the Republic!
Another random Endless Harmony compiler - Jesus c*ck gobbling Christ on a pogo stick! WE GOTTA PUT THIS ONE OUT!
Random Endless Harmony compiler - Call Jardine. He'll go for it.

(Five minutes later)

(Phone rings)

Al Jardine - Hello?
Another random Endless Harmony compiler - Al! What's up?
Al Jardine - Not much.
Another random Endless Harmony compiler - Guess what we found that will be great on the new compilation?
Al Jardine - What's that?
Another random Endless Harmony compiler - The Battle Hymn of the Republic.

(Silence)

Al Jardine - Uhhh, have you guys actually heard it yet?
Another random Endless Harmony compiler - No.
Al Jardine - Ohhhh boy..."

And that really happened...