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« on: May 03, 2010, 04:00:57 AM »
Firstly, what was the last BB album that featured nothing but newly recorded material (i.e. nothing from the vaults) ?

Secondly, what was the last BB album that featured entirely new compositions ?

Was pondering this in the shower just now, and am interested to see if my conclusions were correct.
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« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2010, 04:27:33 AM »
1) Beach Boys '85?
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« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2010, 04:30:53 AM »
Quote from: Stegibo on May 03, 2010, 04:27:33 AM
1) Beach Boys '85?

Yeah, originally I thought that too... then it dawned on me it was actually Summer In Paradise.  Shocked
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« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2010, 04:35:42 AM »
You're right. I forgot about that one Grin
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« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2010, 04:48:32 AM »
The answer to the first question should be "Stars & Stripes Vol. 1".

The answer to the second question should be "Beach Boys '85".

"Summer In Paradise" had re-recordings of "Surfin'" and "Forever".
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« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2010, 05:50:22 AM »
Quote from: c-man on May 03, 2010, 04:48:32 AM
The answer to the first question should be "Stars & Stripes Vol. 1".

Ummm... OK, give you that on a technicality (i.e it says "Beach Boys" on the CD spine).
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« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2010, 09:22:14 AM »
If you consider Stars n Stripes (an album of re-recordings) as new material then the re-recordings on SIP would also fall under that category.
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« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2010, 11:37:23 AM »
The second of your questions Andrew got me pondering on just how few Beach Boys albums contained exclusively 100% brand new recordings of freshly composed songs, ie no holdovers from previous albums or rerecording of older tracks. It's remarkable really, you can literally count them on one hand.
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« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2010, 04:01:59 PM »
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If you consider Stars n Stripes (an album of re-recordings) as new material then the re-recordings on SIP would also fall under that category.

Depends on how one defines "newly recorded material"...I took it to mean "brand new recordings", but not necessarily brand new songs.  Hence the need for Andrew's second question.  Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2010, 04:06:00 PM »
'xactly. That's why I made the definition between recordings and material.
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« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2010, 05:28:14 PM »
Even Pet Sounds had Sloop John B. I wonder if any BBs album had ALL original and newly recorded material.

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« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2010, 08:34:27 PM »
Quote from: Magic Transistor Radio on May 03, 2010, 05:28:14 PM
Even Pet Sounds had Sloop John B. I wonder if any BBs album had ALL original and newly recorded material.



Carl and the Passions: So Tough?

Edit: Nope. Just remembered Marcella's melody lines being used in the past.
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« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2010, 11:56:31 PM »
Quote from: Wrightfan on May 03, 2010, 08:34:27 PM
Quote from: Magic Transistor Radio on May 03, 2010, 05:28:14 PM
Even Pet Sounds had Sloop John B. I wonder if any BBs album had ALL original and newly recorded material.



Carl and the Passions: So Tough?

Edit: Nope. Just remembered Marcella's melody lines being used in the past.

Not to mention Dennis' tracks, recorded for an entirely different project.
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« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2010, 11:58:16 PM »
Quote from: Magic Transistor Radio on May 03, 2010, 05:28:14 PM
Even Pet Sounds had Sloop John B. I wonder if any BBs album had ALL original and newly recorded material.

I'm sure I'm missing something (recycled riffs could be the kicker), but isn't Friends newly recorded new material ?

Not the Australian pressing, of course.  Grin
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« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2010, 01:18:44 AM »
Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on May 03, 2010, 11:58:16 PM
Quote from: Magic Transistor Radio on May 03, 2010, 05:28:14 PM
Even Pet Sounds had Sloop John B. I wonder if any BBs album had ALL original and newly recorded material.

I'm sure I'm missing something (recycled riffs could be the kicker), but isn't Friends newly recorded new material ?

Not the Australian pressing, of course.  Grin

The bit of CIFOTM incorporated into "Little Bird"?
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« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2010, 04:19:19 AM »
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Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on May 03, 2010, 11:58:16 PM
Quote from: Magic Transistor Radio on May 03, 2010, 05:28:14 PM
Even Pet Sounds had Sloop John B. I wonder if any BBs album had ALL original and newly recorded material.

I'm sure I'm missing something (recycled riffs could be the kicker), but isn't Friends newly recorded new material ?

Not the Australian pressing, of course.  Grin

The bit of CIFOTM incorporated into "Little Bird"?

Still a new recording, but yes, a recycled riff.
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« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2010, 07:21:49 AM »
wasn't Holland all newly recorded material?
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« Reply #17 on: May 04, 2010, 10:00:14 AM »
Quote from: exposedbrain on May 04, 2010, 07:21:49 AM
wasn't Holland all newly recorded material?

Didn't Desper claim they had done a version of SOS some months prior to the Holland recording? And Big Sur was recorded earlier too, in a different time signature.
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« Reply #18 on: May 04, 2010, 10:32:59 AM »
If we allow cover versions then it's All Summer Long, Today!, Friends and BB85.  Pet Sounds would still be disqualified because Sloop John B was a slightly older recording.

If we disallow covers than you are left with Friends and BB85. Amazing really. Consider how many songs the group recycled for later use and yet they STILL have one of the biggest vaults of unreleased material out of any major act of the last 50 years or so.
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« Reply #19 on: May 04, 2010, 12:17:00 PM »
Quote from: Magic Transistor Radio on May 03, 2010, 05:28:14 PM
Even Pet Sounds had Sloop John B. I wonder if any BBs album had ALL original and newly recorded material.


Friends?
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« Reply #20 on: May 04, 2010, 07:42:01 PM »
Quote from: slothrop on May 04, 2010, 10:00:14 AM
Quote from: exposedbrain on May 04, 2010, 07:21:49 AM
wasn't Holland all newly recorded material?

Didn't Desper claim they had done a version of SOS some months prior to the Holland recording? And Big Sur was recorded earlier too, in a different time signature.
I think you're right. But, wouldn't the recording of SOS qualify as being a recording done for the "new" Beach Boys album/project, regardless of the title of said album/project?

Edit: This thread makes my head hurt.  Grin
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« Reply #21 on: May 04, 2010, 07:55:20 PM »
Quote from: c-man on May 03, 2010, 04:48:32 AM
The answer to the first question should be "Stars & Stripes Vol. 1".

The answer to the second question should be "Beach Boys '85".

"Summer In Paradise" had re-recordings of "Surfin'" and "Forever".
Technically, "I Feel So Fine" from the cocaine sessions has the exact same melody of "'It's Just A Matter Of Time". Would IJAMOT still qualify as an "entirely newly composed" song? But that melody is so generic that it's hard to say one way or the other. Actually, wasn't IJAMOT being performed live when Dennis was still living? This could drive us all crazy.  Grin
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« Reply #22 on: May 05, 2010, 01:14:12 AM »
Quote from: Jay on May 04, 2010, 07:55:20 PM
This could drive us all crazy.  Grin

A short trip for some of us...  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #23 on: May 05, 2010, 07:13:20 AM »
Quote from: Magic Transistor Radio on May 03, 2010, 05:28:14 PM
Even Pet Sounds had Sloop John B. I wonder if any BBs album had ALL original and newly recorded material.



Ehhh - a song recorded before Pet Sounds but after Summer Days counts as a recent recording, to me.
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« Reply #24 on: May 05, 2010, 06:33:20 PM »
Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on May 03, 2010, 11:58:16 PM
Quote from: Magic Transistor Radio on May 03, 2010, 05:28:14 PM
Even Pet Sounds had Sloop John B. I wonder if any BBs album had ALL original and newly recorded material.

I'm sure I'm missing something (recycled riffs could be the kicker), but isn't Friends newly recorded new material ?

Not the Australian pressing, of course.  Grin

What is the history behind Diamond Head? Brian didn't write it.
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