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« on: March 23, 2010, 11:42:55 PM »

THE place to debunk old BB myths. If this goes the way I expect it to, I may sticky it. In this thread, let's gather all of the misconceptions and such about the BB/BW, and the actual factual information that discredits them. This is perfect for both newbies and long term fans who, well, just didn't know.

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Myth: Little Red Book was recorded during the SMiLE sessions.
Fact: In actuality, LRB was recorded in 1968. The multitrack master is on a "Friends" album project reel from 1968. Confirmed by Alan Boyd.
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« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2010, 12:05:44 AM »

Myth: Brian stayed in bed for three years.
Fact he continued to record and produce sporadically and left the house semi regularly.
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« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2010, 12:44:50 AM »

Myth: Brian stayed in bed for three years.

On the back of my copy of Heroes & Villains it says, "Brian Wilson: the man who stayed in bed for twenty years."
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« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2010, 07:31:10 AM »

The Beach Boys never existed. Everyone on this board is part of a mass experiment for the mentally insane. It is all in your head, sonny!
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"Over the years, I've been accused of not supporting our new music from this era (67-73) and just wanting to play our hits. That's complete b.s......I was also, as the front man, the one promoting these songs onstage and have the scars to show for it."
Mike Love autobiography (pg 242-243)
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« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2010, 07:59:36 AM »

Myth: Mike Love alone killed SMiLE
Fact: It's MUCH more complicated then that.
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« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2010, 08:02:59 AM »

Myth: There was such an album as "Remember the Zoo."
Fact: No there wasn't.
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« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2010, 10:35:14 AM »

Myth - Hal Blaine played drums on all the Beach Boys hits
Fact - Dennis Wilson played the drums on...
Surfin Safari
409
Shut Down
Surfer Girl
Catch A Wave
Hawaii
Little Deuce Coupe
In My Room
Fun Fun Fun(partial)
Don't Worry Baby
I Get Around
Wendy
Little Honda
When I Grow Up To Be A Man
Dance Dance Dance
Then I Kissed Her
You're So Good To Me
Wild Honey
Do It Again(basic)
I Can Hear Music
Student Demonstration Time
Rock and Roll Music
Its OK(partial)
Honkin' Down The Highway
Good Timin'

And many many many many more....

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« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2010, 11:13:30 AM »

Maybe it's a mis-fact but it could fit in...

Myth (widely-spread): "Breakaway" was the final Capitol single
Fact: the second version of "Cottonfields" was actually their last Capitol single of their first signing
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« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2010, 11:24:29 AM »

Myth: "Sloop John B" was included on Pet Sounds against Brian's wishes as it was the current hit single.
Fact: #1 - "SJB" is included on an early track list Brian handed to Capitol in mid-February. It was his idea.
         #2 - Pet Sounds was mastered April 16th, at which point the single was #13... but when the album was compiled a few days earlier, it
                 was only #35. So unless someone was psychic in the Tower...  Wink
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« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2010, 12:08:21 PM »

Myth: Brian retreated from the studio and his guiding producer role the instant Smile was shelved.
Fact: Despite the Beach Boys production credits, Brian was the main influence on the three immediate follow-up albums: Smiley Smile, Wild Honey and Friends.

(Folks on the board know this, I think, but the world as a whole sure doesn't.)
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« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2010, 12:28:04 PM »

Happened to find this old postcard online while looking for something completely different....the card has Brian drowning instead of Dennis, they worded it drawned....take a look see.

http://www.cardcow.com/150038/the-beach-boys-ronald-reagan-presidents-ronald-reagan/
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« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2010, 12:49:46 PM »

TY for that list, Jon...I didn't know Dennis drummed on I Can Hear Music or Good Timin'.
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« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2010, 12:59:33 PM »

Myth: 'Kokomo' would have been bigger than 'Good Vibrations' with or without it being included in 'Cocktail'
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« Reply #13 on: March 24, 2010, 01:19:38 PM »

Myth: Brian worked with Mike Love as his exclusive lyricist until Tony Asher came on the scene.
Fact: Multiple talented creators -- Gary Usher, Roger Christian, Jan Berry -- worked with Brian on early BB records and outside projects. Mike was never exclusive.

Myth: Mike contributed only fun and sun lyrics.
Fact: Mike not only wrote the trippy words to Good Vibrations (one of his finest moments as a wordsmith), but he contributed much lyrically to Today! and Summer Days (And Summer Nights!!), which include some of Brian's most yearning pre-PS work.
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« Reply #14 on: March 24, 2010, 03:13:58 PM »

Myth: Brian cancelled a session in May that was to be the final mixing session for SMiLE.

Fact: There is NO proof that this session was intended for any mixing at all.
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« Reply #15 on: March 24, 2010, 06:38:43 PM »

Myth: 1976- Brian's Back
Fact: "no he's not" said little Nicola
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« Reply #16 on: March 24, 2010, 06:39:00 PM »

Myth: Dennis had no musical talent
Fact: Dennis was a genius in his own right

Myth: Dennis abused substances pretty much from Charles Manson years to his death.
Fact: Dennis was clean from 1973 - 1976. Probably off and on from 1969 -1973 (?)
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« Reply #17 on: March 24, 2010, 06:41:08 PM »

Myth: 1976- Brian's Back
Fact: "no he's not" said little Nicola

Myth: I am the walrus
Fact: The walrus was Paul
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"Over the years, I've been accused of not supporting our new music from this era (67-73) and just wanting to play our hits. That's complete b.s......I was also, as the front man, the one promoting these songs onstage and have the scars to show for it."
Mike Love autobiography (pg 242-243)
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« Reply #18 on: March 24, 2010, 07:06:49 PM »

that he was   Cheesy
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« Reply #19 on: March 24, 2010, 07:18:17 PM »

Fact:  Mike was the big stud of the group with the ladies.
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« Reply #20 on: March 24, 2010, 07:56:56 PM »

Myth: Dennis would sleep with any female with a pulse.

Fact: Well, they say every myth is based on fact...
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« Reply #21 on: March 25, 2010, 01:59:57 AM »

Myth: Dennis would sleep with any female with a pulse.


Fact 2: There was not a lot of sleeping! Wink
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« Reply #22 on: March 25, 2010, 02:54:44 AM »

Happened to find this old postcard online while looking for something completely different....the card has Brian drowning instead of Dennis, they worded it drawned....take a look see.
http://www.cardcow.com/150038/the-beach-boys-ronald-reagan-presidents-ronald-reagan/

Myth: "The Three Wilson brothers, together for the first time in years, were welcoming Brian Wilson back to the group after a long hiatus. Sadly, he soon was drawned at a California beach similar to the places he had won his fame with car and surf oldies."

Fact: not only was it Dennis who drowned, but he didn't drown on a beach.
Fact: At the time Brian won his fame, those "car and surf oldies" (cos all his car songs revolved around the beach, right?) were actually newies.
FAct: Mike & Bruce are the ones whose fame still revolves around oldies.


Sorry... busy day at the office.

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« Reply #23 on: March 25, 2010, 07:50:04 AM »

Happened to find this old postcard online while looking for something completely different....the card has Brian drowning instead of Dennis, they worded it drawned....take a look see.

http://www.cardcow.com/150038/the-beach-boys-ronald-reagan-presidents-ronald-reagan/

I've got a Readers' Digest various artists box set which includes "Fun, Fun, Fun," the potted biog to which says that CARL drowned in 1983. It was issued years before Carl really died.
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« Reply #24 on: March 25, 2010, 08:37:14 AM »

Myth: Brian sang God Only Knows on the outtake on the Pet Sounds Box Set.
Fact: It was a mistake, much like Brian singing Be Here In There Morning and that Daddy Dear song. Azn
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