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« Reply #25 on: April 26, 2010, 03:18:23 AM »

Here's a challenge I've been working on: how best to re sequence Holland including both We Got Love and Carry Me Home, without taking anything off.  I love both those songs (live version of We Got Love...so far as I know the studio version isn't around?) but I just can't seem to make Holland flow with both of them and sail on sailor.  Funky Pretty becomes particularly tough to place, and I start to appreciate how Carry Me Home actually is pretty depressing compared to what's around it.  This is what my current mix is:

A:
 
1. Trader
2. Steamboat
3. CS - Big Sur
4. CS - Beaks Of Eagles
5. CS - California
6. We Got Love

B:
1. Sail on Sailor
2. Funky Pretty
3. Leaving This Town
4. Only With You
5. Carry Me Home

but im still not satisfied...I don't like all the slow songs piled up at the end...unlike say Surf's Up, which uses that technique to great effect, these three songs don't really build together.  and I don't like Funky Pretty buried in the middle of the second side.  but I also don't like funky Pretty after Carry me Home...thats a bit too jarring...

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My mix

SIDE A
1. Sail on Sailor
2. The Trader
3. Leaving This Town
4. Carry Me Home
5. Only With You
6. We got Love

SIDE B
1. Steamboat
2. Big Sur
3. Beaks Of Eagles
4. California
5. Funky Pretty
6. Mt. Vernon and Fairway

This mix might be long for a single LP.  If so, as a double album, SIDE A is Sail-Leaving, SIDE B is Carry-We Got, SIDE C is Steamboat-California, and SIDE D is Funky Pretty-Mt. Vernon. this is best as far as I think.
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« Reply #26 on: April 26, 2010, 06:45:09 AM »

I love both those songs (live version of We Got Love...so far as I know the studio version isn't around?)

It's out there.
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« Reply #27 on: April 26, 2010, 09:27:55 AM »

I love both those songs (live version of We Got Love...so far as I know the studio version isn't around?)

It's out there.

It's also a bit of a let down compared to the live version, imo. Like some other BB songs, it's too slow and plodding, not performed with enough energy in the studio. Still a great song that should've been on the album though.
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« Reply #28 on: November 09, 2011, 05:19:46 PM »

We all know Brian was really into track sequencing, up til Smile or so....So which albums have the worst sequence in your opinion?   To me, it's gotta be 15 Big Ones...idk why it wasn't one half oldies/one half originals...but to include oddities like Everyones in Love & Susie Cincinnati are baffling as well. I'll put together the perfect tracklist, if there is one for this cluttered album.   I'd rather have an album from 1976 of ALL the Beach Boys, giving them all a chance to submit something, like 20/20.  We all know Dennis had some tunes bursting to see the light of day.

I also always thought Love You's 2nd side wasn't as good as the first.

Still Cruisin' is good until the oldies, it's like the label just got lazy.

I think Imagination could benefit a re-tracking list.

the 2nd half of love you was better then the first half..."the night was so young" was clearly the best song on the whole album.
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« Reply #29 on: November 09, 2011, 05:54:44 PM »

I actually think the Beach Boys have always been absolute geniuses when it comes to choosing the perfect lead-off track to an album!

Think about it!

Shut Down 2: Fun Fun Fun
All Summer Long: I Get Around
Today: Do You Wanna Dance
Summer Days: Girl From New York City
Pet Sounds: Wouldn't It be Nice
Smiley: Heroes And Villains
Smile: Our Prayer
Wild Honey: Wild Honey
Friends: Meant For You
20/20: Do It Again
Sunflower: Slip On Through (best album opener ever)
Surf's Up: Don't Go Near The Water
CATP: You Need A Mess Of Help
Holland: Sail On Sailor (perfect)
15 Big Ones: Rock N Roll Music (considering the situation, it works)
Love You: Let Us Go On This Way
MIU: She's Got Rhythm Smiley
LA: Good Timin
KTSA: Keepin The Summer Alive
BB 85: Getcha Back Smiley
Still Cruisin: Kokomo Smiley
Summer In Paradise..... uh....

Aside from SIP: ALL awesome first song choices!
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« Reply #30 on: November 09, 2011, 06:00:42 PM »

Incorrect with Still Cruisin'. The title track opens the album, not Kokomo.
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« Reply #31 on: November 09, 2011, 06:04:20 PM »

"I Get Around", while a great song, never felt like an album opener to me. I always thought "California Girls" would've been a brilliant opening track for Summer Days, too. Otherwise, yeah, mostly good choices for openers.
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« Reply #32 on: November 09, 2011, 06:04:43 PM »

Yikes! You're right!!!

Well, I still count Still Cruising as a great opening track/statement of purpose
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« Reply #33 on: November 09, 2011, 06:07:17 PM »

"I Get Around", while a great song, never felt like an album opener to me. I always thought "California Girls" would've been a brilliant opening track for Summer Days, too. Otherwise, yeah, mostly good choices for openers.


Funny you say that: the CD back cover for the Little Deuce Coop/All Summer Long two-fer makes it look like I Get Around is the last song on Little Deuce Coop and, for a while I had all my vinyl packed away and actually thought it ended that album, and it felt like THE perfect album closer!
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« Reply #34 on: November 09, 2011, 06:18:45 PM »

Incorrect with Still Cruisin'. The title track opens the album, not Kokomo.
still cruisin and kokomo is both amazing Smiley
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« Reply #35 on: November 10, 2011, 01:49:45 AM »

I was reading this thread, and thinking about what to write, when I noticed that I had already contributed to it...LAST YEAR!  Cheesy
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« Reply #36 on: November 10, 2011, 01:53:54 AM »

What's with all the dead threads being resurrected
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« Reply #37 on: November 10, 2011, 02:04:06 AM »

"I Get Around", while a great song, never felt like an album opener to me. I always thought "California Girls" would've been a brilliant opening track for Summer Days, too. Otherwise, yeah, mostly good choices for openers.


Funny you say that: the CD back cover for the Little Deuce Coop/All Summer Long two-fer makes it look like I Get Around is the last song on Little Deuce Coop and, for a while I had all my vinyl packed away and actually thought it ended that album, and it felt like THE perfect album closer!

It's okay. I first downloaded the Smiley Smile/Wild Honey twofer (FOR SHAME, I KNO) and it was missing "Wild Honey". I knew Smiley Smile well, split them up into two different folders, and for at least a few months thought Wild Honey began with "Aren't You Glad?" which I thought was a really nice opener. Then I discovered there was a song called "Wild Honey", too  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #38 on: November 10, 2011, 04:26:37 AM »

What's with all the dead threads being resurrected
Some new guy was spamming old threads with requests for songs to be put on youtube.
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« Reply #39 on: November 10, 2011, 11:23:04 AM »

What's with all the dead threads being resurrected
Some new guy was spamming old threads with requests for songs to be put on youtube.
bro let it go already..lol
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« Reply #40 on: November 10, 2011, 01:26:59 PM »

Stack Of Tracks-it  just feels like something's missing. Wink
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« Reply #41 on: November 10, 2011, 01:33:36 PM »

"L.A. Light album" just because of "here comes the night" personally i think something from "adult child" or a couple more dennis wilson songs would have filled the album out nicely..they could have put three songs in place of the one song..the second one that has a bad flow IMO is "carl and the passions" just because of the lack of songs and the length of the ones that are on it..
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« Reply #42 on: November 10, 2011, 01:44:40 PM »

What's with all the dead threads being resurrected

It's a ZOMBIE thread, bro.

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