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« on: February 18, 2006, 06:38:01 PM »

I just got an advance copy of Geoff Emerick's HERE, THERE AND EVERYWHERE: My Life Recording the Music of The Beatles and there are two Beach Boys mentions.  And yes, the do both happen to be during the recording of Sgt. Pepper!

1. Paul kept insisting on playing a certain Beach Boys disc in the studio on his personal record player so that the engineers could see the sound he wanted to get!
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Was it "Good Vibrations"?

Was it ANY Smile track?

NOPE! It was the Pet Sounds album. Pure and simple. (There-you've got it from the horses mouth! Someone who was there, not hearsay!)

P.S. What I didn't find? Well...
There were no instances found of trans-Atlantic calls from Brian Wilson during the recording session ("Paul? Telephone...It's Brian again, he's got another Smile track he wants you to hear...") or Derek Taylor bursting through the studio doors with a devilish grin on his face, holding several reel-to-reel canisters under his arm ("Lads! You've just GOT to hear these tapes!").  Wink
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« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2006, 06:41:02 PM »

Is there a 2.?
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« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2006, 06:51:57 PM »

Is there a 2.?

DOH! Sorry...here 'tis:

2. Paul wanted the backing vocals to sound like The Beach Boys on "Lovely Rita". (again, no mention of any Smile tracks)
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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2006, 07:35:27 PM »

Fascinating stuff.

Does it mention if any of the other Beatles had such a strong interest as Paul did with Pet Sounds? I've read what has been said before, but neither John's nor George's songs show any influence, whereas Paul's have an obvious hint.
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« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2006, 08:24:02 PM »

Fascinating stuff.

Does it mention if any of the other Beatles had such a strong interest as Paul did with Pet Sounds? I've read what has been said before, but neither John's nor George's songs show any influence, whereas Paul's have an obvious hint.

No, I only found Paul's love of the album mentioned (even did a quick search through the index to check).
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« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2006, 09:06:55 PM »

Fascinating stuff.

Does it mention if any of the other Beatles had such a strong interest as Paul did with Pet Sounds? I've read what has been said before, but neither John's nor George's songs show any influence, whereas Paul's have an obvious hint.

Has anyone here ever read Pete Shotten's book?  He says John was not much of a Beach Boys fan, unlike Paul and George.  However, one BBs song John was evidently familar with was "Lonely Sea", of all things, as he reportedly fooled around with a solo version of this at the "Get Back" sessions.

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« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2006, 09:21:11 PM »

Fascinating stuff.

Does it mention if any of the other Beatles had such a strong interest as Paul did with Pet Sounds? I've read what has been said before, but neither John's nor George's songs show any influence, whereas Paul's have an obvious hint.

Has anyone here ever read Pete Shotten's book?  He says John was not much of a Beach Boys fan, unlike Paul and George.  However, one BBs song John was evidently familar with was "Lonely Sea", of all things, as he reportedly fooled around with a solo version of this at the "Get Back" sessions.

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There is the cool section in Pete Shotton's book where he tells what Lennon was listening to around his house in Weybridge around 1966-67. No mention of the Beach Boys in the records he played at home.
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« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2006, 09:38:24 PM »

However, one BBs song John was evidently familar with was "Lonely Sea", of all things, as he reportedly fooled around with a solo version of this at the "Get Back" sessions.

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Uh-oh...here we go...
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« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2006, 09:57:55 PM »

earcandy -

Thanks for the info. What about the rest of the book? Does it say anything new about its main subject? Is it work picking up?
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« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2006, 02:45:19 AM »

However, one BBs song John was evidently familar with was "Lonely Sea", of all things, as he reportedly fooled around with a solo version of this at the "Get Back" sessions.

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Uh-oh...here we go...

No. He. Didn't.

Friend of mine listened to all the relevant outtakes, to veryify this (yes, he is totally insane). At one point, in the middle of an extended noodle, John hits on a chord progression that "LS" has in common with roughly a gazillion other songs. Now, had Lennon sung the lyric over it, then I'd say there was reasonable evidence. But he didn't.
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« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2006, 05:46:05 AM »

earcandy -

Thanks for the info. What about the rest of the book? Does it say anything new about its main subject? Is it work picking up?

Definitely! It doesn't just rehash the same old stories - actually having new stuff.  Plus, it is balanced so it will please the recording buffs as well as Beatles fans.
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« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2006, 06:34:35 AM »

However, one BBs song John was evidently familar with was "Lonely Sea", of all things, as he reportedly fooled around with a solo version of this at the "Get Back" sessions.

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Uh-oh...here we go...

No. He. Didn't.

Friend of mine listened to all the relevant outtakes, to veryify this (yes, he is totally insane). At one point, in the middle of an extended noodle, John hits on a chord progression that "LS" has in common with roughly a gazillion other songs. Now, had Lennon sung the lyric over it, then I'd say there was reasonable evidence. But he didn't.

Hmm.  Well, that's why I said "reportedly"...'cause it was reported in Sulpy and Schweighardt's "Get Back" book.  Not wanting to lose what's left of my sanity, I haven't yet listened to all of those sessions.  Although reading that entire book in one weekend brought me periously close...

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« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2006, 07:39:49 AM »


Hmm.  Well, that's why I said "reportedly"...'cause it was reported in Sulpy and Schweighardt's "Get Back" book.  Not wanting to lose what's left of my sanity, I haven't yet listened to all of those sessions.  Although reading that entire book in one weekend brought me periously close...

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For a session that was "such a downer", the "Get Back" period is probably the most documented of the Fabs - at least recording wise.  I've been collecting "Get Back" stuff since the '70s and it still amazes me that "new" stuff surfaces that I haven't heard.  Recently downloaded a new collection (via bit torrent-Man, love that technology!) and most of it was stuff I hadn't heard before.  Sure, it went on ad nauseum with re-take after re-take of songs...but in between all these takes were where the interesting stuff happened. When one member would suddenly go into a completely different song (original or cover).  I imagine this happened from sheer boredom!  I mean, how many takes can you do of say, "Dig A Pony" without going insane?
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« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2006, 08:03:39 AM »


...but in between all these takes were where the interesting stuff happened. When one member would suddenly go into a completely different song (original or cover).  I imagine this happened from sheer boredom!  I mean, how many takes can you do of say, "Dig A Pony" without going insane?

I like the Peter Sellers visit.   And when George and Ringo are talking about what they watched on TV the night before.

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« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2006, 11:59:24 AM »

What did they watch?
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