Lost 1972-1974 BW Songs: Just An Imitation, Rooftop Harry, etc

[Jason]

This just became the most LOL-tastic thread on the board.

[Jay]

 

[MBE]

Just keep away from my crotch if I find a rare tape!

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

Maybe Dick Reising can help...

[C.Miller]

Oh lord, I wanna work towards getting to hear some of these, and this is what we get? Not too promising...

[Yorick]

How is it possible that Where Is She is still unreleased?

[runnersdialzero]

Oh lord, I wanna work towards getting to hear some of these, and this is what we get? Not too promising...

If you wants to work for it, then have I got a job for you!

[Jason]

I guess at this rate people are gonna have to pucker up and start licking their chops...

[Alex]

and the 1967 "Surf's Up" (if it exists)....

Wasn't that already released on the box set way back in '93?

[runnersdialzero]

and the 1967 "Surf's Up" (if it exists)....

Wasn't that already released on the box set way back in '93?

He may be talking about the supposed recording of the 2nd section.

Also - holy sh*t, it's sweetdudejim.

[Jim V.]

Yes, sweetdudejim from the A6 boards is what I'm assuming you're talking about, as I also remember you from that board, as unfortunately, we are both still hoping one day for a good album from Rivers and co. Hopefully Pinkerton DE and Odds and Ends will be worth it though.

And yes, I was referring to a possible "Surf's Up" version that was finished in 1967 with both "sections".....

And also anybody have any info on the rest of these songs, like if "Just An Imitation" was ever recorded, even as a demo? And I know somebody said "Lucy Jones" was an example of the "new" Brian voice, but I'm pretty sure this was still pre-voice change.

[Jay]

I guess at this rate people are gonna have to pucker up and start licking their chops...

I'm foaming at the mouth.















































































































































Um....what? 

[Andrew G. Doe]

And also anybody have any info on the rest of these songs, like if "Just An Imitation" was ever recorded, even as a demo? And I know somebody said "Lucy Jones" was an example of the "new" Brian voice, but I'm pretty sure this was still pre-voice change.

As far as I know, "Imitation" was never recorded, even as a home demo. However, I have heard "Lucy Jones", and it's primo 'shouty' Brian. 

[MBE]

And also anybody have any info on the rest of these songs, like if "Just An Imitation" was ever recorded, even as a demo? And I know somebody said "Lucy Jones" was an example of the "new" Brian voice, but I'm pretty sure this was still pre-voice change.

As far as I know, "Imitation" was never recorded, even as a home demo. However, I have heard "Lucy Jones", and it's primo 'shouty' Brian. 

ie Back Home and Drip Drop or is his voice less hoarse.

[runnersdialzero]

As far as I know, "Imitation" was never recorded, even as a home demo.

Argh, this sort of thing really saddens me. I doubt Brian remembers it. Lyrics, sheet music, does anything exist of songs like this?

[Jim V.]

And also anybody have any info on the rest of these songs, like if "Just An Imitation" was ever recorded, even as a demo? And I know somebody said "Lucy Jones" was an example of the "new" Brian voice, but I'm pretty sure this was still pre-voice change.

As far as I know, "Imitation" was never recorded, even as a home demo. However, I have heard "Lucy Jones", and it's primo 'shouty' Brian. 

ie Back Home and Drip Drop or is his voice less hoarse.

Well I'm not AGD, but my guess is that since it was recorded around the same time as the "California Feelin" demo I'd guess his vocals are still more clean, so maybe he means shouty like "You're So Good To Me"? I don't know, just a guess.

[Jay]

As far as I know, "Imitation" was never recorded, even as a home demo.

Argh, this sort of thing really saddens me. I doubt Brian remembers it. Lyrics, sheet music, does anything exist of songs like this?

This is perhaps the most cruel and sad adpect of the whole Landy saga.  Big chunks of Brian's memory have been virtually erased. I'd bet a good amount of money that Brian has no clue about "Lucy Jones" or "Just An Imitation". Even with alot of prompting from people that heard it, I doubt that Brian would have much, if any, memory of the songs.

[Jim V.]

I wonder if anybody knows exactly how far along "Rooftop Harry", "Funky Fever", and "Burlesque" were, and if there is any chance we might hear any of them this year. Maybe who wrote them, who was the lead vocalist, what year they were done, etc.

Also, any news on whether "Just an Imitation" or "Pattycake" were ever found on tape at all.

[Mr. Cohen]

Bruce Johnston is the one that claims to  have heard "Just an Imitation". I don't know why there is a need to secretive or coy about this.

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

Damn...I remember this thread!


Well, we obviously now know there WAS a 1967 Surf's Up, only it wasn't what we thought

Oh, and Lucy Jones is sung by Stephen Kalinich.

And that song I was referring to on page one was the THIRD  (technically first recorded, but most recently 'distributed') version of Out in the Country.

[b00ts]

You're Riding High On The Music and Lucy Jones still exist and have been heard by a few. They're the first known instances of Brian's "new" voice.

I would quite possibly blow another man to hear those recordings.

Perhaps the reason they didn't use these recordings on anything is because they typically focus on group productions, with some exceptions ("It's Over Now" and "Still I Dream of It" on the '93 box set).

Which begs the questions, why are there no Brian Wilson compilations of demos, odds and sods? Is it just not profitable enough nowadays to release records?

[runnersdialzero]

Which begs the questions, why are there no Brian Wilson compilations of demos, odds and sods? Is it just not profitable enough nowadays to release records?

Apparently not, given that I think the Hawthorne compilation (or the Endless Harmony soundtrack, I forget which) was deleted from the catalog.

[Jay]

Damn...I remember this thread!


Well, we obviously now know there WAS a 1967 Surf's Up, only it wasn't what we thought

Oh, and Lucy Jones is sung by Stephen Kalinich.

And that song I was referring to on page one was the THIRD  (technically first recorded, but most recently 'distributed') version of Out in the Country.

Ugh...some of the stuff I posted back then is embarrassing. lol By the way, is it just me, or is Out In The Country creepy as hell?  

[endofposts]

There are very few rare tracks of the Beach Boys that have gotten out that are worth hearing.  I once traded for the "Get the Boot" set which has a lot of rare tracks, and it was almost all bad.  I no longer have it, but I don't miss it.  I suspect many if not most of the songs discussed here aren't very good.  I really have doubts about Brian Wilson's ability to make a great song about a gorilla in Central Park Zoo. 

[Jim V.]

I actually was talking to David Sandler and he told me that he didn't know anything about "Rooftop Harry", but that he wrote "Funky Fever" and it was recorded at Ike Turner's studio but that he didn't remember much of it.

He also said that "Baby I Need Your Lovin'"/"Gimme Some Lovin'" is one of the best tracks that he recorded with Brian, and that it was recorded at the home studio. Since that one has gotten some attention over the years, maybe we'll hear that one.

However, I'm assuming "Rooftop Harry" probably never got very far, and "Funky Fever" may not have even been co-written by Brian, so them getting a proper release are doubtful.