Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread!

[Jukka]

Wouldn't it be cool if Mike had a son called Jesus Love?

[bossaroo]

In 65-83, did anyone else of the band but Mike sing ever California Girls live?  Would be cool to hear a Dennis version, if he ever sang it.

A short clip of Al (with Jeff) singing California Girls, June 16, 1983, Erie, PA (http://www.esquarterly.com/bellagio/gigs83.html)

http://youtu.be/dbQZkKzV4O0?t=6m15s

it's a whole different vibe without Mike on stage isn't it? i like it.

[halblaineisgood]

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[Jukka]

I'm actually surprised he doesn't already have one called Eros Love.

[Andrew G. Doe]

2. Some interviews have been mentioned already. There's one I recall (early 2000s) in which Brian talks openly and very lucid about Landy. He said that Landy did good for him but then became "power mad" (that's his term). There is another interview, I think, in which his lady assistant asks the interview not to ask more questions about the subject. Perhaps it's all the same interview and I'm confused. In any case, it's probably available somewhere in the www.

Here
http://m.scotsman.com/news/poetry-in-slow-motion-1-591061

That would be his lady assistant wife, Melinda. 

[ahoutman1]

Do the 1980 overdubs for Can't Wait Too Long circulate in any form?

[bringahorseinhere?]

beach boys reel to reel tapes:

is there a way to date them to their release date???.......

I have a few in my collection....

beach boys Christmas album - 3 3/4 ips
pet sounds - 7 1/2 ips
sunflower - 3 3/4  ips

all are US copies on Capitol.....

curious to know has anyone documented the reel to reel releases?......

Cheers, RickB

[metal flake paint]

beach boys reel to reel tapes:

is there a way to date them to their release date???.......

I have a few in my collection....

beach boys Christmas album - 3 3/4 ips
pet sounds - 7 1/2 ips
sunflower - 3 3/4  ips

all are US copies on Capitol.....

curious to know has anyone documented the reel to reel releases?......

Cheers, RickB

Can't help you much with release dates (except years where noted). My thinking is that they were probably released concurrently with their vinyl counterparts. Anyway, here is a yet to be completed list of Beach Boys reel to reels:

The Beach Boys' Christmas Album – Y1T 2164
Beach Boys Concert / All Summer Long – Y2T 2370
Shut Down Vol. 2 / Little Deuce Coupe – Y2T 2383
Pet Sounds – ZT 2458 (7 ½ IPS) (Duophonic)
Best of The Beach Boys Vol. 1 – Y1T 2545
Smiley Smile – Brother Y1T 9001 (1967)
Wild Honey – Y1T 2859
Friends – Y1T 2895
Best of The Beach Boys Vol. 3 – Y1T 2945
20-20 – Y1T 133

Sunflower – RST 6382 B
Surf's Up – RST 6453 B (1971)
Pet Sounds / Carl and The Passions – So Tough – RST 2083 F-DP
Holland – RST 2118-C (1973) (7 ½ IPS)
The Beach Boys In Concert – RST 6484-P-DP (1973) (7 ½ IPS)
Good Vibrations Best of The Beach Boys - ? (7 ½ IPS)

Little Deuce Coupe – TA-T 1998 (UK) (1963)
Beach Boys Concert – TA-T 2198 (UK)
Pet Sounds – TA-T 2458 (UK) (1966)
Smiley Smile (UK)
Best of The Beach Boys – TA-T 20856 (UK)
Wild Honey – TA-T 2859 (UK) (1967)

Close-Up – YWW-253

Best of The Beach Boys Vol. II – 1R1 6398

[bringahorseinhere?]

heya Metal,

my thinking is that too, but while I'm unsure, I have to also think that maybe the releases were later........

I know my 'Christmas' album on reel seems original, but it's hard to think this is one produced and manufactured in 1964!!

it sure as well maybe...... it has the original reel, and the tape seems legit of the time, hence the dropouts in the first song and the last song

on the reel........and the tape top is in great condition...... but the history of it, I am not sure.....

I am a bit foreign in this area of BB reel to reel collecting....... thanks for the reply.

RickB

[egon spengler]

So here's a question that's been bugging me for a long time. On the mono mix of Let the Wind Blow, there's an instrument playing the downbeats of the middle 8 (the "Let the bees make honey" part). It's absent on the stereo remixes. It's got a feel very similar to the drums on Do It Again or the cowbell on Slip On Through, which makes me think it probably uses a similar multi-tap delay effect. It sounds almost like a 1990s-era digital alarm clock, except it's clearly playing chords. I can't for the life of me figure out what instrument this is. Any ideas?

[metal flake paint]

heya Metal,

my thinking is that too, but while I'm unsure, I have to also think that maybe the releases were later........

I know my 'Christmas' album on reel seems original, but it's hard to think this is one produced and manufactured in 1964!!

it sure as well maybe...... it has the original reel, and the tape seems legit of the time, hence the dropouts in the first song and the last song

on the reel........and the tape top is in great condition...... but the history of it, I am not sure.....

I am a bit foreign in this area of BB reel to reel collecting....... thanks for the reply.

RickB

Rick, I'm inclined to think that it would have been released around the same time as the Christmas album since it shares the same catalogue number and Capitol "dome" logo as its LP counterpart.

[bringahorseinhere?]

hey cool metal!!!

this area needs a lot more documentation...........as some came out as 3 3/4 and some at 7 ips...

perhaps someone already has, if they have, someone please point me in that direction....

some tapes are great to listen to, particularly the 7 1/2 ips tapes......

I have a Pet Sounds one, but unfortunately is has a few 'cringeworthy' splices in it................. (damn!!)


but it sounds great in it's so called 'biasonic process' sound.....whatever that means..

Oh Well..

RickB

[halblaineisgood]

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[punkinhead]

Do the 1980 overdubs for Can't Wait Too Long circulate in any form?

I've always wondered that too! I think Andrew knows the answer (I believe he's replied to a similar post of mine), but I don't think the answer is what we wanna hear...but I can't remember.

[The Shift]

… There's one I recall (early 2000s) in which Brian talks openly and very lucid about Landy. He said that Landy did good for him but then became "power mad" (that's his term). There is another interview, I think, in which his lady assistant asks the interview not to ask more questions about the subject. Perhaps it's all the same interview and I'm confused. In any case, it's probably available somewhere in the www.

Here
http://m.scotsman.com/news/poetry-in-slow-motion-1-591061

Many thanks for the link to that – I had a copy at the time (might still have it) but haven't read it for years. 12 years, probably… but it's one of the most candid interviews with Brian I ever read. The answers are characteristically short but quite shockingly blunt in places.

I mean, get a load of this:

"I’m celibate and live for the moment of joy when I make music, when I listen to music, when I listen to Phil Spector’s records, but the joy of sex has diminished from my life. I’ll get it back but I’m just in a slow period. I want to get it back because I love it."

I’m somewhat at a loss for words because the sex thing had come out of nowhere and you really don’t think of him as a sexual being. He continues: "It goes away for about a month and then I get it back. I have sex once a month." Doesn’t your wife go crazy? "No. She’s in the same bag as I am. She’s that way."

Some moments later, the immaculately denimed blonde wife returns and hugs him hotly. I thought, you wouldn’t be hugging him like that if you knew what he just told me about not having sex.

Anyone have a link top the letter Melinda sent to the Glasgow Herald after an unnecessarily  scathingly personal review of what I think was the same 2002 gig?

[Smilin Ed H]

I was at the gig. Thought the reviews were good. Don't remember that one.

[Rocky Raccoon]

Brian strangely said a similar thing in the 1976 Rolling Stone article by David Felton where he said he was abstaining from sex.  Later, Marilyn clarified that they do still have sex, he just never ejaculates.  It's like, thanks, we all definitely wanted to know that. 

[Smilin Ed H]

Let's not forget that Ernest Borgnine put his longevity down to masturbation.

[halblaineisgood]

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[bgas]

Here are the reels in my collection. 3-3/4 IPS unless noted   
 I've always  presumed the Capitol reels were released very close to their LP counterparts 
Promo and radio station reels at the end. 

Happy to provide pics if desired...

Christmas Album   Cap.Y1T 2164   
Hollyridge Strings Play Elvis Presley & The Beach Boys  Y2T 2224 
Chartbusters/Chartbusters Vol. 2  Y2T 2258     ( various artists)
Surfing’s Greatest Hits/ Big Hot Rod Hits  Y2T 2260      ( various artists)
Beach Boys Concert/ All Summer Long    Cap. Y2T 2370 
Shut Down Vol.2/Little Deuce Coupe   Cap.Y2T 2383   
Pet Sounds     Cap.Y1T 2458        7.5 IPS   
Best Of       Cap. Y1T 2545       
Best Of      Cap. X 2545    ( Ampex release)
Best Of Vol.2    Cap.Y1T 2706   
Best Of Vol. 2   Cap. X 2706     ( Ampex release) 
Best of Vol. 2 – 1R1 6398     ( Columbia House )
Hollyridge Strings  BB’s Songbook Vol. 2/Beatles Songbook Vol.4  Y2T 2807 
Wild Honey      Cap. Y1T 2859         
Smiley Smile     Brother Y1T 9001   
Friends    Cap. Y1T 2895       
Hit Makers Vol. 1   X 2905    ( various artists)
Best Of Vol.3     Cap. Y1T 2945       
20/20         Cap.Y1T 133           
Close-Up     Cap. YWW 253     
Hit Makers Vol. 3     X 297   ( various artists)
 
 Sunflower      Rep. RST 6382-B     
 Surf's Up    Rep. RST 6453-B       
Carl & The Passions-So Tough/Pet Sounds  Rep.RST 2083-F-DP   
Carl & The Passions-So Tough/Pet Sounds  Rep.RST 2083-F-DP   7.5 IPS    ( yep, same ## but higher speed. noted only by a small sticker.    Thanxx Bas! )
Holland  RST 2118-C    7.5 IPS
BBs In Concert  RST 6484-P-DP    7.5 IPS

UK REELS 
Surfer Girl    TA-T-1981
Little Deuce Coupe   TA-T 1998 
BBs Concert  TA-T 2198 
BBs Party!  TA-T 2398 
Pet Sounds  TA-T 2458
Friends  TA-T 2895 
Smiley Smile   TA-T- 9001 
20/20   TA-E-T  133   
Best of The BBs  TA-T 20856 
Best Of The BBs Vol. 2  TA-T 20956 
Beach Boys Greatest Hits  TD-ST 21628   

 PROMO REELS 
An Aurora Of Radiant Stereo--American Airlines 3 hour tape w/ “Take A Load Off Your Feet” from Surf’s Up... and other artists   7”   
BBs Christmas 1977 Toy Drive 30 Second Spot (1/2 track/15IPS) 7”
Warner Brothers  July 1978 Release    ( 6/8/78)  “Winds Of Change/ Pitter Patter) ( Various artists)
Brian Wilson Speaks W/and About Spring    w/ letter and booklet
Brian Wilson Speaks W/and About Spring   Bomp reissue  5"
Surf’s Up     60 Sec. Radio Spot   5”
Carl & The Passions  60 Sec. Radio Spot  5”
Holland  60 Sec. Radio Spot  5”
BBs/Bob Weir  Six Pack  R-555-B 60 Sec. Radio Spot  5”
BBs/Deep Purple/Butterfield  Combo Talk  60 Sec. Radio Spot  5”
Friends/Smiley Smile  R 620  60 Sec. Radio Spot  5”
MIU Album  60 Sec. Radio Spot   WB R-664    5" 
Made In USA   60 Sec.  Radio Spot    Capitol S-2587   VG   5”
Beach Boys  5/7/79   60 Sec.  Radio Spot   VG   5” 
 
BBs radio Ad tapes: 
BBs T.V.29    1: WKBW  2: Generic     ( Not certain of the date) 
BBs Generic   on sale tomorrow, on sale now.      ( Not certain of the date) 
BBs Buffalo  KZEW 98FM   3 X :60  7-1/2ips  1/2 tk       ( Not certain of the date) 
BBs Buffalo  KZEW 98FM   3 X :60  7-1/2ips  1/2 tk  (“K-B” invites)       ( Not certain of the date) 
5/11/81  BBs   1 @ :60   7-1/2 ips 
5/21/81  BBs/  Frankie & The Knockouts   1 @ :60  generic  7-1/2 ips 
3/9/82   BBs  “B”  1 @ :60   7-1/2 ips  (Festival)

[bringahorseinhere?]

hey Bgas!!!!!

Great info and Thankyou!!!!   I need time to process all of this, thankyou for giving me a reference point....

looks like I have a long way to go to complete my 'reel to reel' collection..

Cheers! RickB  

[bluesno1fann]

Let's not forget that Ernest Borgnine put his longevity down to masturbation.

Masturbation didn't exactly save him from Renal failure, did it? 

In all seriousness, R.I.P.

[Al Jardine: Pick Up Artist]

Anybody have more info on this video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aG9luwmrOAk

It's Brian Wilson live in 1986, and he seems to be all there, and his speech isn't slurred at all, really with it. He forgets the lyrics at one point to Surfer Girl, and gives a shoutout to Landy.

I've never seen it before, and it's really wild to watch.

[alf wiedersehen]

I can't remember if I've ever read someone mention this before, but is Brain a manic depressive?
The video description certainly makes me wonder...

[Andrew G. Doe]

Anybody have more info on this video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aG9luwmrOAk

It's Brian Wilson live in 1986, and he seems to be all there, and his speech isn't slurred at all, really with it. He forgets the lyrics at one point to Surfer Girl, and gives a shoutout to Landy.

I've never seen it before, and it's really wild to watch.

Not Brian's first solo gig - as claimed in the video - by over a year. NAS tribute show, Beverley Theater, Beverley Hills, LA. Bruce was also on the bill. Cool footage, and excellent audio. This was before Landy's gross over-medication kicked in: there's footage from his autobiography promo tour, fall 1991, that would make you weep (in fact, it formed part of the smoking gun evidence that eventually freed him from Landy's control). You also have to factor in that this was shot some 28 years ago.