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« Reply #825 on: October 05, 2010, 12:12:39 PM »

I think I'll play it backwards when I am home tonight. I sense that there might be a 'hidden' Christmas Oratorio by Charlie Manson on it.

6 Cantatas, 6 instrumental interludes, and 6 spoken-word pieces. Genius.
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« Reply #826 on: October 05, 2010, 05:41:48 PM »

In the liner notes to the reissued POB, it says something about the original POB album being just remastered. I can't remember exactly how it was put, but there is a sentence along the lines of "the original mix has been left as is, except for a brief "surprise"". What is the "surprise"?

Does anybody know?
Is it the part in "Thoughts of You" where the music  suddenly gets very loud for a few seconds?
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« Reply #827 on: October 06, 2010, 08:01:47 AM »

In the liner notes to the reissued POB, it says something about the original POB album being just remastered. I can't remember exactly how it was put, but there is a sentence along the lines of "the original mix has been left as is, except for a brief "surprise"". What is the "surprise"?

Does anybody know?
Is it the part in "Thoughts of You" where the music  suddenly gets very loud for a few seconds?

I don't think so - I remember reading this part is very loud because it was supposed to be. I think it was loud too on the original LP - the 1990s CD was quieter, but it wasn't "true" to the original recording.
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« Reply #828 on: October 06, 2010, 02:27:34 PM »

Did the Beach Boys ever record "Runaway" ?
I just know their great live versions.
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« Reply #829 on: October 06, 2010, 02:29:25 PM »

Did the Beach Boys ever record "Runaway" ?
I just know their great live versions.

Recorded a live version, overdubbed it for single release, had second thoughts and eventually put it out on the 1986 Sunkist album.
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« Reply #830 on: October 06, 2010, 09:05:06 PM »

Whose idea was it to put "Our Team" on the Good Vibrations box set? It's a really bad... not even half-baked song. Then again, considering the era they were trying to cherry-pick, I can sort of understand how hard to must have been to do that and not make the BBs seem like utter sh*t. (Hint: It's impossible to do that. And they didn't even include "My Diane"!)
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« Reply #831 on: October 06, 2010, 09:44:56 PM »

I was going to make this a topic of its own, but then realized it's more of just an observation (and probably not all that interesting a one other than to me).  I made a list of the BB songs that went top ten (both here in the US and in the UK).
In the US

Surfin' USA (3)
Surfer Girl (7)
Be True To Your School (6)
Fun, Fun, Fun (5)
I Get Around (1)
When I Grow Up (To Be A Man) (9)
Dance, Dance, Dance [8]
Help Me, Rhonda (1)
California Girls (3)
Barbara Ann (2)
Sloop John B (3)
Wouldn't It be Nice [8]
Good Vibrations (1)

One could include their two Christmas hits (both #3 on the Holiday charts) Little Saint Nick and Man With All The Toys and have an album that could legitimately be called 15 Big Ones.  Razz
And yes, I suppose if we must - include Kokomo  and make it 16 Big Ones.  Roll Eyes

Edit: And I somehow had forgotten about Rock And Roll Music (5), so I guess that's 17 Big Ones!

UK Top Ten

I Get Around (7)
Barbara Ann (3)
Sloop John B (2)
God Only Knows (2)
Good Vibrations (1)
Then I Kissed Her (4)
Heroes And Villains [8]
Do It Again (1)
I Can Here Music (10)
Break Away (6)
Cotton Fields (2)

You could probably throw Darlin' (11) in there as an honorable mention.
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« Reply #832 on: October 07, 2010, 02:02:19 AM »

Whose idea was it to put "Our Team" on the Good Vibrations box set? It's a really bad... not even half-baked song. Then again, considering the era they were trying to cherry-pick, I can sort of understand how hard to must have been to do that and not make the BBs seem like utter merda. (Hint: It's impossible to do that. And they didn't even include "My Diane"!)

You should probably blame the fans. Remember, this was the selection process for the tracks on the box:

1 - Top 40 single hits
2 - established 'classic' tracks (subject to band veto)
3 - archive material (subject to band veto)
4 - gaps filled by the lists solicited from fans worldwide in 1992 (released and unreleased)
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« Reply #833 on: October 07, 2010, 02:35:18 AM »

How did they go about soliciting the lists from the fans, may i ask? Putting ads in the fanzines?
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« Reply #834 on: October 07, 2010, 03:39:23 AM »

Were the fan songs subject to band veto as well? (I assume they were, but since you didn't write it out, I must ask...)
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« Reply #835 on: October 07, 2010, 06:32:14 AM »

Huh, I had no idea about the fourth selection criterion. Well, I blame all of you here, then, for the inclusion of such a horrible song where something less terrible from the same era (yeah, I know, that'd be really hard but I think it could still be done -- heck, they could've given us "Da Doo Ron Ron" or something!) would be much more desirable. Were there many fans who opted for bootlegged material to be included on the box set? I imagine so, and that a lot of it probably would have been vetoed for one reason or another...
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« Reply #836 on: October 07, 2010, 07:58:05 AM »

Our Team is actually more fun, way better and more Brian Wilsony than almost any other BB song from the 80's. I especially love Bri's imitation of Dennis in the harmonies.
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« Reply #837 on: October 07, 2010, 08:45:52 AM »

How did they go about soliciting the lists from the fans, may i ask? Putting ads in the fanzines?

'Xactly.  The brief was to compile your fantasy 5-CD (that was the original plan) box, studio, live and unreleased (but no solo material). That was a fun thing to do.
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« Reply #838 on: October 07, 2010, 03:31:15 PM »

aaaah, makes sense. Shame no 70's Live material made it on, because I bet a bunch of you suggested that! Did any of your 'rare' picks make it on, Andrew?

Our Team is pretty rough, but i couldn't tell you what I'd like to replace it.
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« Reply #839 on: October 07, 2010, 03:56:37 PM »

A surprising percentage of my 'archive' selections made the cut, but I can't claim I was directly responsible for any single inclusion.
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« Reply #840 on: October 07, 2010, 05:02:05 PM »

If I'm not mistaken, "All This is That" was a fan's choice.
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« Reply #841 on: October 07, 2010, 05:04:44 PM »

Oh and AGD I've always wondered, was there ever a reason given why "WIBNTLA" wasn't included?
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« Reply #842 on: October 07, 2010, 05:29:10 PM »

Oh and AGD I've always wondered, was there ever a reason given why "WIBNTLA" wasn't included?
WIBNTLA is essentially an unfinished recording...although its missing very little(guitar solo). I don't think there was much awareness of this track within the decision making hierarchy at BRI until about 2002, that's when it seemed to suddenly surface as an unbooted gem ...hence it was probably not even considered as a 30th anniversary box set contender.
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« Reply #843 on: October 07, 2010, 05:34:51 PM »

My dream is for a new rareties collection to come out, and have that, 74 California Feelin', Lucy Jones, and the other admittedly few tracks I've never heard that actually still exist.
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« Reply #844 on: October 08, 2010, 03:12:55 AM »

If I'm not mistaken, "All This is That" was a fan's choice.

"ATIT" very nearly didn't make it - a good UK friend of mine had to make a phone call to the US pretty much demanding it was included. My sole direct input to the box (list aside) was ensuring the correct version of "Come Go..." was included: one of the box producers called me from the mastering room at Capitol to ask. Turns out each of the three thought the others knew which was the right one.  Any conversation that starts with "I'm going to ask you a question, please don't laugh" is going to be one to treasure. Grin
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« Reply #845 on: October 08, 2010, 09:14:54 AM »

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Better yet, a 10 track album that is nothing but remixed versions of "Lazy Lizzie". Old bands do that occasionally. You could get Kanye West, Swizz Beats, Aphex Twin, Moby... whoever, man, but it would be great.
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« Reply #846 on: October 08, 2010, 09:31:52 PM »

I was being serious LOL
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« Reply #847 on: October 08, 2010, 10:11:17 PM »

Am I the only one here who REALLY wants to see Andrew's complete list, along with what actually made the cut?  Grin
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« Reply #848 on: October 08, 2010, 10:13:38 PM »

Nope LOL
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« Reply #849 on: October 09, 2010, 02:03:31 AM »

Am I the only one here who REALLY wants to see Andrew's complete list, along with what actually made the cut?  Grin

I'd love to see it as well. Typed it - yes, typed - and although I made a copy, I have no idea where it is.  Sad
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