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« Reply #675 on: September 04, 2010, 02:41:18 AM »

How come Sea Of Tunes Unsurpassed Masters series of boots finish in 69 with 20/20? Is there a screamingly obvious answer to this that I am overlooking?

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Allegedly, it was because the 'leggers didn't have access to a 16-track machine, hence they could only 'liberate' material that was on 2-, 3-, 4- and 8-track multis. Seems entirely logical to me, but then the words 'logical" and "Beach Boys" have never been happy bedfellows...

Some early Sunflower songs were initially recorded on an 8-track, but they were all transferred to 16-track in October 1969 (see the upcoming edition of ESQ, which is a Sunflower 40th anniversary special, with previously unseen photos from the sessions at Brian's house (many thanks to David Dalton)).

Thanks for this AGD. I've never seen a copy of ESQ, but a Sunflower edition sounds too good to miss so will look into this.


Yes there is...that's the end of the Capitol Records phase of Beach Boys recorded history.

Didn't occur to me! Thanks Jon.
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« Reply #676 on: September 04, 2010, 09:39:14 AM »

Does anyone know if the Canadian pressing of SMiLE is the same as the US?  

i ordered the vinyl and can't help but notice the "Special Import" distributed by Warner Music Canada sticker on the outer plastic.  

bought it off a third party seller on amazon.com.  I remember hearing that UK pressings tend to not be as good, so i'm just curious.  and wanna make sure i got the good one before opening.  The back of the album still says Manufactured in Burbank, CA.  

the fact that it says "Special Import" possibly makes me think it's an import from the US to Canada that the seller ended up with??
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« Reply #677 on: September 04, 2010, 09:57:18 AM »

Brian have write the music

And the truth shall be revealed! AGD isn't really British. No, he's actually Japanese, and English is his second language! That why he sometimes (as above) reads like those God-awful lyrics translations you find in Japanese issues of BB albums.

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« Reply #678 on: September 05, 2010, 08:28:31 PM »

Was Bruce born in 1942 or 1944?  Several sources have different dates.
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« Reply #679 on: September 06, 2010, 12:17:52 AM »

Was Bruce born in 1942 or 1944?  Several sources have different dates.

1942 - my source is impeccable.  Grin
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« Reply #680 on: September 06, 2010, 12:22:40 AM »

Was Bruce born in 1942 or 1944?  Several sources have different dates.

1942 - my source is impeccable.  Grin
Well, George Harrison himself did not know the exact date of his birth until he was well in his 40's. I'm just sayin'.  Grin
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« Reply #681 on: September 06, 2010, 01:35:33 AM »

Was Bruce born in 1942 or 1944?  Several sources have different dates.

1942 - my source is impeccable.  Grin
Well, George Harrison himself did not know the exact date of his birth until he was well in his 40's. I'm just sayin'.  Grin

Bruce seemed pretty sure.  Smiley
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« Reply #682 on: September 06, 2010, 02:30:21 AM »

Was Bruce born in 1942 or 1944?  Several sources have different dates.

1942 - my source is impeccable.  Grin
Well, George Harrison himself did not know the exact date of his birth until he was well in his 40's. I'm just sayin'.  Grin

Bruce seemed pretty sure.  Smiley

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« Reply #683 on: September 07, 2010, 08:50:25 AM »

who wrote what for "all i wanna do"?  is the melody from brian or mike pretty much.
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« Reply #684 on: September 07, 2010, 12:28:42 PM »

here's just a general thought, but i wouldn't mind the original version of Big Sur getting a remix/master and put on the supposed upcoming compilation album.  great tune.
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« Reply #685 on: September 07, 2010, 06:13:48 PM »

here's just a general thought, but i wouldn't mind the original version of Big Sur getting a remix/master and put on the supposed upcoming compilation album.  great tune.

i agree
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« Reply #686 on: September 10, 2010, 09:35:53 AM »

Did Carl just STOP writing completely after 72 until 78ish? Dennis obviously didn't, but there seems to be no Carl tunes until he starts contributing boring pap for L.A/M.I.U era. Did Rieley staying in Holland put him off? Was he better at hiding his sessions from bootleggers? Did drink and drugs screw up his creativity?
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« Reply #687 on: September 10, 2010, 10:20:43 AM »

Brian and Carl worked on Good Timin' in 74
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« Reply #688 on: September 10, 2010, 11:38:57 AM »

Don't forget he also co-wrote River Song and Rainbows.
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« Reply #689 on: September 10, 2010, 11:58:30 AM »

Did Carl just STOP writing completely after 72 until 78ish? Dennis obviously didn't, but there seems to be no Carl tunes until he starts contributing boring pap for L.A/M.I.U era. Did Rieley staying in Holland put him off? Was he better at hiding his sessions from bootleggers? Did drink and drugs screw up his creativity?

"Angel Come Home" dates back to about 1976, but offhand, that's about the only title I know of that hails from the 72-78 period. Of course, 1976-78 wasn't the best period of his life...
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« Reply #690 on: September 10, 2010, 12:58:52 PM »

What can people tell me about this version of Caroline No? The vocal is a bit over the top at points but overall I quite like this take.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_kYVBr-3Ac

Is it Hutton like some of the comments imply and if so, what's the story behind it?
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« Reply #691 on: September 10, 2010, 01:15:40 PM »

What can people tell me about this version of Caroline No? The vocal is a bit over the top at points but overall I quite like this take.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_kYVBr-3Ac

Is it Hutton like some of the comments imply and if so, what's the story behind it?

Sounds like Danny.
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« Reply #692 on: September 10, 2010, 02:53:35 PM »

Did Carl just STOP writing completely after 72 until 78ish? Dennis obviously didn't, but there seems to be no Carl tunes until he starts contributing boring pap for L.A/M.I.U era. Did Rieley staying in Holland put him off? Was he better at hiding his sessions from bootleggers? Did drink and drugs screw up his creativity?

"Angel Come Home" dates back to about 1976, but offhand, that's about the only title I know of that hails from the 72-78 period. Of course, 1976-78 wasn't the best period of his life...

Does this mean Angel Come Home was a contender for the "originals" disc of the double album version of what became 15 big ones?  Yet another tune to add to my alt. reality 15 big ones play list!!  (Man that could have been a good record!) 

Also, I seem to recall that in a number of interviews/press from the 15 big ones and just prior period, it is mentioned that Carl is "working on new material" or something along those lines.  I feel like Dennis mentions at some point that both he and carl have a bunch of songs, but that they're sort of holding back and trying to let brian take the reins.  I could be remembering wrong, of course, but I've always wondered what exactly Carl was working on during that period, and how it would have sounded....sadly perhaps, not all song writers commit every idea they have to tape the way Dennis and Brian sometimes seemed to...it's totally possible that Carl wrote songs, kept them in the back of his head for a while, never demoed them, and then eventually forgot how they went.
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« Reply #693 on: September 10, 2010, 04:39:38 PM »

Carl wrote "Everybody Knows My Name" is the period mentioned.
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« Reply #694 on: September 10, 2010, 04:47:09 PM »

Certainly with two early '80s solo albums, it's possible that some of those 19 songs had their origins in this period. Though there were also a lot of shows in those years, and so as a bandleader, he had plenty to do. Maybe he just wasn't writing much.
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« Reply #695 on: September 10, 2010, 06:17:32 PM »

I sorta had all that in the back of my mind. Carl's addictions, disillusionment over the whole Endless Summer thing, responsibility as a bandleader and his crumbling marriage probably didn't leave a lot of time or inclination to sit down with his guitar.
I don't get it - his songwriting (and by that I don't mean co-writes - i don't think Carl came to Brian with the idea for 'Our Sweet Love', for example) just seems to have been so brief. Maybe he didn't think he was good, but the songs are kind of evidence to the contrary!
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« Reply #696 on: September 10, 2010, 09:07:00 PM »

IMHO
Carl really wasn't much of a songwriter...
his best stuff was done with Jack Reiley(sp) and I wonder if this was a case of Carl putting music to Jacks words rather then Jack putting words to Carl's music.
I personally think that Jack doesn't get enough credit for what the two of them did together... and nothing that Carl wrote after Jack left seem to have
much substance... beautiful voice yes, but the songs??
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« Reply #697 on: September 10, 2010, 09:33:14 PM »

yeah, carl didn't write anything memorable for me. 
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« Reply #698 on: September 10, 2010, 09:40:14 PM »

Ya know, one of my first ever posts years ago was a thread i started called  " carl, not that great" and i was basically pointing this stuff out and really got poo-pooed (plus i'm not the biggest fan of his voice and would rather hear mike, denny or bri on any song carl sang, including GOK !!). good to see others are with me on the songwriting thing.
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« Reply #699 on: September 10, 2010, 10:37:19 PM »

i love carl's quiet voice.  wild honey...?? ehhhhhh
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