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« Reply #550 on: August 17, 2010, 07:03:53 PM »

This is off-topic, but I had this thought in my head the other day while mowing the grass....

What would a Brian Wilson solo album from 1970 sound like?

hmmmmm........
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« Reply #551 on: August 17, 2010, 07:45:24 PM »

I keep seeing the name listed both ways -- Paul Mertens or Paul von Mertens. Are both correct?




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« Reply #552 on: August 17, 2010, 09:50:17 PM »

What would a Brian Wilson solo album from 1970 sound like?

hmmmmm........

Probably similar to the G-rated psychedelia of Sweet Mountain off the Spring album, crossed with the more experimental sounds of "Mt. Vernon and Fairway", and knowing Brian, he'd probably loose his confidence half way through and fill the rest of the album up with covers of Spector songs and maybe a few good `uns from the day.  We all know he liked Joe South's "Games People Play".  I also assume that if this fantasy album came out in 1970, Brian's involvement in Sunflower would be reduced, as would the number of songs he contributed, if any.  So let's stick "Cool, Cool Water" on as the last track.
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« Reply #553 on: August 18, 2010, 07:08:56 AM »

Why did Bruce sing with Brian for the Imagination DVD? Brian just said recently that he doesn't like to work with him. Huh
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« Reply #554 on: August 18, 2010, 08:10:07 AM »

Why did Bruce sing with Brian for the Imagination DVD? Brian just said recently that he doesn't like to work with him. Huh
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really? Where'd he say that?  Maybe for publicity. Sometimes, for my train of thought, there's a lot of times Bruce just thinks: "why not? I need a paycheck."  I'd be the same way if I were him
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« Reply #555 on: August 18, 2010, 08:29:07 AM »

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,9128.msg155020.html#msg155020
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« Reply #556 on: August 18, 2010, 09:40:19 AM »

Why did Bruce sing with Brian for the Imagination DVD? Brian just said recently that he doesn't like to work with him. Huh
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really? Where'd he say that?  Maybe for publicity. Sometimes, for my train of thought, there's a lot of times Bruce just thinks: "why not? I need a paycheck."  I'd be the same way if I were him

Bruce don't need paychecks. Even if he'd never chose a life in the music biz he'd still have more cash than you could spend in a lifetime.
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« Reply #557 on: August 18, 2010, 09:52:58 AM »

Why did Bruce sing with Brian for the Imagination DVD? Brian just said recently that he doesn't like to work with him. Huh
The list of things Brian did or said, and then subsequently said (or did) something 180 degrees opposite of that is so freakingly damn long that I'm amazed people still get crossed up by that. But they do. Brian has a long history of saying one thing, doing another, or saying one thing, and then saying he never meant to say that, or doing one thing and saying he never did that, or saying he did something and then saying he didn't...  etc... etc...
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« Reply #558 on: August 18, 2010, 10:03:58 AM »

Why did Bruce sing with Brian for the Imagination DVD? Brian just said recently that he doesn't like to work with him. Huh
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really? Where'd he say that?  Maybe for publicity. Sometimes, for my train of thought, there's a lot of times Bruce just thinks: "why not? I need a paycheck."  I'd be the same way if I were him

Bruce don't need paychecks. Even if he'd never chose a life in the music biz he'd still have more cash than you could spend in a lifetime.

alright, thanks for making feel small....

btw, everyone needs a paycheck; why would Gene Hackman star in Superman IV?  Grin
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« Reply #559 on: August 18, 2010, 10:20:19 AM »

Why did Bruce sing with Brian for the Imagination DVD? Brian just said recently that he doesn't like to work with him. Huh
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really? Where'd he say that?  Maybe for publicity. Sometimes, for my train of thought, there's a lot of times Bruce just thinks: "why not? I need a paycheck."  I'd be the same way if I were him

Bruce don't need paychecks. Even if he'd never chose a life in the music biz he'd still have more cash than you could spend in a lifetime.

alright, thanks for making feel small....

btw, everyone needs a paycheck; why would Gene Hackman star in Superman IV?  Grin

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« Reply #560 on: August 19, 2010, 12:50:58 PM »

Question:  Why does Brian change record labels for every solo album he releases?  Does he not want to be tied down creatively to multi-record/year deals?
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« Reply #561 on: August 19, 2010, 01:12:50 PM »

Maybe it's the labels who don't want to get saddled with something that is less-than-inspired and still have to deal with it! If he has no contract, everyone is happy -- no one can force him to do things he doesn't want to do, and no one has to put up with the end result of such a process.  High Five
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« Reply #562 on: August 19, 2010, 05:21:00 PM »

why does everyone say merda here
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« Reply #563 on: August 19, 2010, 07:16:16 PM »

why does everyone say merda here

type in 'merda' and find out  LOL

It's a block for society's uncouth words.

unless you meant it in the context of 'why does everyone say the slang for 'crap' here' - then I'd say we just know too few words to express our dislike in something  Grin
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« Reply #564 on: August 19, 2010, 07:24:25 PM »

Question:  Why does Brian change record labels for every solo album he releases?  Does he not want to be tied down creatively to multi-record/year deals?

I don't know a lot about Brother Records as a label, but can the guys release under that label? Or is it just the BB material (including some solo material, POB?(I THINK)) that have already been recorded.
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« Reply #565 on: August 19, 2010, 07:43:13 PM »

What does estranho filter?
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« Reply #566 on: August 19, 2010, 08:27:35 PM »

Question:  Why does Brian change record labels for every solo album he releases?  Does he not want to be tied down creatively to multi-record/year deals?

I don't know a lot about Brother Records as a label, but can the guys release under that label? Or is it just the BB material (including some solo material, POB?(I THINK)) that have already been recorded.
POB was and is owned by Caribou which has no affiliation with Brother or BRI. It was licensed to Sony for the 2008 reissue. Brother or BRI is not actually a label, its just a corporate entity.
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« Reply #567 on: August 19, 2010, 09:14:38 PM »

thanks, i knew it'd get straightened out
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« Reply #568 on: August 19, 2010, 10:45:42 PM »

Does anyone know exactly what happened to the "Wind Section"? I've heard it was a piano piece, and that it was lost for some reason or another.
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« Reply #569 on: August 19, 2010, 11:07:48 PM »

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No. 1: He doesn't.

BW88 and Orange Crate Art were both released by Warner Brothers. (The Sire division did BW88, but the contract was with Warners.)

The IJWMFTT soundtrack was released on Don Was's label because Don Was directed the movie.

Imagination was ultimately released by Warners. GIOMH and Smile were both released by Warners as part of a two-record deal (although through different sub labels).

So really, of his solo catalog, some five albums were released by WB or related companies (which only makes sense, given the BBs and BW's history with the label).

No. 2

That being said, a lot has changed in the record business, and I don't think anyone particularly wants to sign him up for a lengthy deal. People will do shorter-term contracts or make deals for specific projects, but an open-ended deal? Not for BW and his brand of flakiness.

Especially given the fact that, since Melinda came on the scene, Brian owns most of his own recordings and (I suspect) pays for most of his studio time. The recordings are then licensed to the labels. It's easier for everyone concerned.
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« Reply #570 on: August 19, 2010, 11:08:33 PM »

Does anyone know exactly what happened to the "Wind Section"? I've heard it was a piano piece, and that it was lost for some reason or another.

Interesting one, that: the only source for that was Brian, as quoted in the Byron Preiss book. Some folk feel it's a reasonable description of a track that mutated into "Country Air" but honestly, no-one knows for sure.
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« Reply #571 on: August 19, 2010, 11:18:35 PM »

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No. 1: He doesn't.

BW88 and Orange Crate Art were both released by Warner Brothers. (The Sire division did BW88, but the contract was with Warners.)

The IJWMFTT soundtrack was released on Don Was's label because Don Was directed the movie.

Imagination was ultimately released by Warners. GIOMH and Smile were both released by Warners as part of a two-record deal (although through different sub labels).

So really, of his solo catalog, some five albums were released by WB or related companies (which only makes sense, given the BBs and BW's history with the label).

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That being said, a lot has changed in the record business, and I don't think anyone particularly wants to sign him up for a lengthy deal. People will do shorter-term contracts or make deals for specific projects, but an open-ended deal? Not for BW and his brand of flakiness.

Especially given the fact that, since Melinda came on the scene, Brian owns most of his own recordings and (I suspect) pays for most of his studio time. The recordings are then licensed to the labels. It's easier for everyone concerned.

OCA may have Brian's name on the front, but Van Dyke's was the only name on the Warners contract, and Imagination was released on Giant, which was admittedly bankrolled by Warner's but was to all practical purposes a separate entity.

One thing that never gets mentioned - Brian signed a two-record deal with Arista. I'm guessing after the disappointing performance of the Xmas album, everyone shook hands and walked away.
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« Reply #572 on: August 19, 2010, 11:30:08 PM »

Does anyone know exactly what happened to the "Wind Section"? I've heard it was a piano piece, and that it was lost for some reason or another.

Interesting one, that: the only source for that was Brian, as quoted in the Byron Preiss book. Some folk feel it's a reasonable description of a track that mutated into "Country Air" but honestly, no-one knows for sure.
Something in my gut tells me that Brian was just spouting out a much needed song description, to keep the "powers that be" temorarily satisfied, to buy him more time. I don't think that such a song actually existed. Or course, I'm just thinking out loud, and have no basis for anything that I have just said.  Grin
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« Reply #573 on: August 19, 2010, 11:33:20 PM »

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Really? I recall reading somewhere it was also used as record number two of Brian's late '80s Sire deal. And Lenny Waronker was pretty involved with both albums. But you would know.

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He did have an AC hit off the record, though, right? And how well could they have expected a Christmas album to do? Ah well. . . . Sigh.

I don't think anyone would ever lose money betting against the commercial performance of a BW solo album. Remarkable that the majors keep releasing them, really.
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« Reply #574 on: August 19, 2010, 11:40:18 PM »

Does anyone know exactly what happened to the "Wind Section"? I've heard it was a piano piece, and that it was lost for some reason or another.

Interesting one, that: the only source for that was Brian, as quoted in the Byron Preiss book. Some folk feel it's a reasonable description of a track that mutated into "Country Air" but honestly, no-one knows for sure.

How about Earth, now that we know that "Vegetables" was not it?

Jay, I've always suspected the same.
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