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« Reply #400 on: July 02, 2010, 09:08:42 PM »

Unreleased Smile out-take... "The Old Master-Bater"...
You just made me spill Mountain Dew out of my nose.  LOL
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« Reply #401 on: July 03, 2010, 09:45:27 PM »

Somebody here once mentioned the existence of an amateur recording of The Beach Boys rehearsing "California Feelin" on a tour bus, I believe. What's the story on this? When was it made? I assume it hasn't been booted, because I've never heard or seen anything about it.
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« Reply #402 on: July 03, 2010, 10:58:43 PM »

What the hell does Carl growl half-way through "Palisades Park"? It sounds like "Oh yeah, it's cookin' so bad I can't stand [it]!" but it's just inaudible enough that I'm not sure.
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« Reply #403 on: July 03, 2010, 11:21:53 PM »

How many licks does it take for Brian Wilson to get to the center of a tootsie pop?

How many snorts does it take for Brian Wilson to get through a gram of coke?

How many birthday cakes does it take to make Brian Wilson weigh over 300 pounds?
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« Reply #404 on: July 03, 2010, 11:40:29 PM »

The answers to all 3 questions are probably the same... :D
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« Reply #405 on: July 05, 2010, 09:21:12 PM »

Is it true that Lady Lynda was used for a commercial on U.K. TV in the 1980's? Somebody made a comment on YouTube about it.
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« Reply #406 on: July 06, 2010, 12:34:44 AM »

Is it true that Lady Lynda was used for a commercial on U.K. TV in the 1980's? Somebody made a comment on YouTube about it.

Don't recall that... but "When Girls Get Together" was, for some kind of drink.
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« Reply #407 on: July 06, 2010, 01:06:15 AM »

What the hell does Carl growl half-way through "Palisades Park"? It sounds like "Oh yeah, it's cookin' so bad I can't stand [it]!" but it's just inaudible enough that I'm not sure.
I don't think that's Carl, but I've always understood it as what you wrote.
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« Reply #408 on: July 06, 2010, 02:36:31 AM »

Is it true that Lady Lynda was used for a commercial on U.K. TV in the 1980's? Somebody made a comment on YouTube about it.

Don't recall that... but "When Girls Get Together" was, for some kind of drink.

Yep, I have that recording on tape somewhere. I could check which drink that was.


EDIT:  found it, it was for a cocktail-drink called "Milty".
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« Reply #409 on: July 06, 2010, 08:07:16 PM »

Is it true that Lady Lynda was used for a commercial on U.K. TV in the 1980's? Somebody made a comment on YouTube about it.

Don't recall that... but "When Girls Get Together" was, for some kind of drink.
Somebody must have actually liked the song enough to put it on a commercial on TV. That's a scary thought.
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« Reply #410 on: July 07, 2010, 05:15:40 PM »

So, what's the story about the Wilson/Paley sessions? I'm not as well-versed as I should be.
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« Reply #411 on: July 07, 2010, 11:31:35 PM »

Readers Digest version: the day the conservatorship case with Landy was settled in late 1991, Brian called Paley and said something like "I'm free, come on over, we'll start making some real music". The sessions lasted about two, three years and were mostly recorded at Your Place Or Mine (Mark's studio), then they kinda petered out after the Don Was documentary. I think it's no big secret that Melinda is not a big Paley fan.
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« Reply #412 on: July 08, 2010, 12:49:41 AM »

Here's something I've always wondered...what went down with Brian's pre-Melinda conservator, Jerome Billet? I know next to nothing about this period in Brian's life..,
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« Reply #413 on: July 08, 2010, 01:57:08 AM »

Readers Digest version: the day the conservatorship case with Landy was settled in late 1991, Brian called Paley and said something like "I'm free, come on over, we'll start making some real music". The sessions lasted about two, three years and were mostly recorded at Your Place Or Mine (Mark's studio), then they kinda petered out after the Don Was documentary. I think it's no big secret that Melinda is not a big Paley fan.

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And then she went and hooked him up with Joe Thomas???
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« Reply #414 on: July 08, 2010, 03:56:26 AM »

Here's something I've always wondered...what went down with Brian's pre-Melinda conservator, Jerome Billet? I know next to nothing about this period in Brian's life..,

Billet was appointed Brian's conservator immediately post-Landy. Brian (or more accurately, someone acting on Brian's behalf) filed a suit against Billet on September 19th 1995, claiming "negligence and breach of fiduciary duty" in which he was described as a "former conservator".
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« Reply #415 on: July 08, 2010, 08:12:52 AM »

March 9, 1992 to June 22, 1995.

http://books.google.com/books?id=Ag4EAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA13&lpg=PA13&dq=jerome+billet+brian+wilson+lawsuit&source=bl&ots=2YHnTdUlSZ&sig=YjCpFezCONInkARJP5A5YUXKpgY&hl=en&ei=Reo1TMjQFIKB8gbGy9SDDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBIQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=jerome%20billet%20brian%20wilson%20lawsuit&f=false

The suit was just the last shoe to drop in the extensive wrangling over the Irving-Almo case, then Mike's followup lawsuit. I would be very surprised if Billet wasn't the driving force behind Brian's representation in the latter case, which was, everyone agreed, horrible.
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« Reply #416 on: July 08, 2010, 03:18:13 PM »

Readers Digest version: the day the conservatorship case with Landy was settled in late 1991, Brian called Paley and said something like "I'm free, come on over, we'll start making some real music". The sessions lasted about two, three years and were mostly recorded at Your Place Or Mine (Mark's studio), then they kinda petered out after the Don Was documentary. I think it's no big secret that Melinda is not a big Paley fan.
So some of the songs ended up on GIOMH, but a bunch of them have gone unreleased, right?
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« Reply #417 on: July 08, 2010, 06:04:27 PM »

Yes. GIOMH as featured on the album is a Thomas-era re-recording of the Paley song with an 03-04 vocal on top. Soul Searchin and Saturday Morning in the City are both (regardless of what people said at the time) the 94ish Paley sessions tracks with some new vocals. Desert Drive is an 03-04 02 re-recording of a Paley track (but with Paley playing and singing on it). On 98's Imagination, Where Has Love Been has a Paley credit as well; there's no mid-90s version known.

Four other songs have come out in various forms. This Song Wants to Sleep With You Tonight was released as a single B-side in 95 and In My Moondreams was on a compilation around that time too. Cover versions This Could Be the Night and Sweets for My Sweets were also cut at the time and were put on tribute albums.

So, broadly speaking, nine tunes from the sessions have come out in some form or another. Of those, six have more or less the original tracks, and three are remakes.

But. There are easily another 10-12 quality tracks from the sessions (and a handful of others in rougher, demo form) that haven't been released officially. These include another song the Beach Boys cut vocals for: You're Still a Mystery, and bona fide classics like Some Sweet Day, It's Not Easy Being Me and Chain Reaction of Love. Good stuff.
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« Reply #418 on: July 08, 2010, 06:44:46 PM »

Desert Drive is an 03-04 re-recording of a Paley track (but with Paley playing and singing on it).
A minor point but it's a 2002 recording, and the only track on the album in which Mr. Sahanaja is present. Paley was out of the picture by 2003.
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« Reply #419 on: July 09, 2010, 12:49:54 AM »

Desert Drive is an 03-04 re-recording of a Paley track (but with Paley playing and singing on it).
A minor point but it's a 2002 recording, and the only track on the album in which Mr. Sahanaja is present. Paley was out of the picture by 2003.

True, dat - there was an abortive attempt to record a new album in fall 2002 at Western: "DD" is a refugee from those sessions. "GIOMH" was largely recorded in 1998 just after the Imagination sessions.
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« Reply #420 on: July 09, 2010, 02:18:20 AM »

...and How Can We Still be Dancing was an Imagination outtake, correct?

What else was recorded in 2002?
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« Reply #421 on: July 09, 2010, 02:49:20 AM »

...and How Can We Still be Dancing was an Imagination outtake, correct?

What else was recorded in 2002?

Just three songs recorded fall 2002, and "DD" is the only one I know by name. "HCWSBD" was first recorded 1998, but I think the released version is completely new. For them as is really interested in GIOMH, the known session dates are:

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19 - Don't Let Her Know She's An Angel/City Blues/Soul Searchin' [Your Place Or Mine]

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18 - A Friend Like You [Your Place Or Mine]

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23 - City Blues (Clapton's guitar solo) [Olympic, London, England]

July   
29 - A Friend Like You/How Can We Still Be Dancing [Your Place Or Mine]

August   
15 - Soul Searchin'/A Friend Like You [Your Place Or Mine]

There's more BW solo session info here - http://www.esquarterly.com/bellagio/gigspost99.html
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« Reply #422 on: July 09, 2010, 09:02:45 AM »

I could easily be wrong but I seem to remember that "You're Still a Mystery" was attempted at some point---either during the 2002 sessions or the GIOMH sessions themselves. Thank GOD that didn't get released!
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« Reply #423 on: July 09, 2010, 09:55:50 AM »

I remember that too. Was actually sequenced as the closing track, I think. They ended up wanting to end with The Waltz as a segue to Smile.
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« Reply #424 on: July 09, 2010, 05:23:38 PM »

I could easily be wrong but I seem to remember that "You're Still a Mystery" was attempted at some point---either during the 2002 sessions or the GIOMH sessions themselves. Thank GOD that didn't get released!

>: ( I like "You're Still a Mystery". Some of the lyrics are a little goofy and should be changed ("GOTTA FIND THE KEEEY NOW."), but otherwise I don't think it's too bad a song.
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