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Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on April 27, 2010, 03:41:37 PM
I think the concensus was (Dennis included) that it was too downbeat. Shame. Powerful number.
That's a damn shame. I find CMH way more uplifting than "The Beaks of Eagles" or "The Eeks of Beagles" or whatever it's called.
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I was looking at a session log sheet for How she Boogalooed it in one of the great BB books (Keith Badman I believe) and the original title added 'Good Lord' before 'How she....'
any story behind that?
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another question concerning when the guys wanted to change their name simply to Beach:
When was this?
I have a feeling it would have just lasted for one album or one tour (assuming it would have been a failure of an idea)...what album would fit the name Beach with its title?
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Quote from: punkinhead on April 29, 2010, 08:24:59 PM
another question concerning when the guys wanted to change their name simply to Beach:
When was this?
I have a feeling it would have just lasted for one album or one tour (assuming it would have been a failure of an idea)...what album would fit the name Beach with its title?
Pg. 147, chapter 9 in Carlin's book says it was early 1969. Desper even says that Brian had something written up and signed by himself, but the other guys obviously didn't go for it. Imagine, Sunflower would be the first (and possibly only) album by The Beach. If a band were to have only one album it couldn't get much better than that.
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In Badman's book he states that Let's Go Away For Awhile had lyrics (which is common knowledge to us fans), but then he goes on to say that the real reason the vocals for this weren't recorded (negating Brian's claim that he just liked the track as it was sans vocals/lyrics) was because Capitol got restless for product and "confiscated" the tapes of Pet Sounds and put it out (essentially) behind Brian's back.
If this were true, then wouldn't that mean that Brian isn't the one who mastered the album? Yet there's a quote from Fred Vail about being with Brian (and hearing the album for the first time) while Brian mastered Pet Sounds.
Was it more a case of Capitol pressuring Brian and Brian giving in and completing the album before he was as done with it as he might have wanted to be? Or did capitol actually "confiscate" the tapes as Badman claims?
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Quote from: Paul on May 01, 2010, 09:35:20 AM
In Badman's book he states that Let's Go Away For Awhile had lyrics (which is common knowledge to us fans)...
Might be 'common knowledge' for you, but for fans here who know their stuff, it's a myth: "LGAFAW" never had lyrics written, and I can state this based on an impeccable source. Tony Asher told me, Stomp convention in the late 90s.
Badman's book states an awful lot of things which could politely be described as contentious.
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We should make a thread about the Badman book and its false facts and present other sources to prove them wrong
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Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on May 01, 2010, 09:57:00 AM
Quote from: Paul on May 01, 2010, 09:35:20 AM
In Badman's book he states that Let's Go Away For Awhile had lyrics (which is common knowledge to us fans)...
Might be 'common knowledge' for you, but for fans here who know their stuff, it's a myth: "LGAFAW" never had lyrics written, and I can state this based on an impeccable source. Tony Asher told me, Stomp convention in the late 90s.
Badman's book states an awful lot of things which could politely be described as contentious.
well that's why I was asking...because I wouldn't claim to know everything there is to know (nor even most of it), but that's what questions are for aren't they, to learn. Sorry for stating something I believed to be true because I had heard it said and read it countless times - though obviously that doesn't necessarily make something true of course.
Anyway, I had a few other questions related to the Badman book, but never mind. It would seem that book is not only full of typos, but misinformation as well.
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Quote from: Paul on May 01, 2010, 02:59:53 PM
Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on May 01, 2010, 09:57:00 AM
Quote from: Paul on May 01, 2010, 09:35:20 AM
In Badman's book he states that Let's Go Away For Awhile had lyrics (which is common knowledge to us fans)...
Might be 'common knowledge' for you, but for fans here who know their stuff, it's a myth: "LGAFAW" never had lyrics written, and I can state this based on an impeccable source. Tony Asher told me, Stomp convention in the late 90s.
Badman's book states an awful lot of things which could politely be described as contentious.
well that's why I was asking...because I wouldn't claim to know everything there is to know (nor even most of it), but that's what questions are for aren't they, to learn. Sorry for stating something I believed to be true because I had heard it said and read it countless times - though obviously that doesn't necessarily make something true of course.
Anyway, I had a few other questions related to the Badman book, but never mind. It would seem that book is not only full of typos, but misinformation as well.
Not entirely - the stuff he took from my website and other people's websites & MB posts (without permission or crediting us) is pretty accurate.
Probably where it falls down most badly is the live shows. Ian Rusten has been researching those with a dedication that borders on obsession (in a good way), and the results are to be found here:
http://www.esquarterly.com/bellagio/gigs.html
Any other questions you have re: Badman, ask away.
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Has Mr. Badman ever publicly commented on his "misinformation", and relying on other sources in his book? Or about the Social Security numbers and other information like that?
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Quote from: Jay on May 02, 2010, 11:49:38 PM
Has Mr. Badman ever publicly commented on his "misinformation", and relying on other sources in his book? Or about the Social Security numbers and other information like that?
Not really... when I emailed him (and the publishers) to point out a few concerns of mine, he told me that his researchers neglected to provide their sources when they delivered their info to him, and also that he was unaware of the significance of American Social Security numbers. Otherwise, I've seen no 'public' apology.
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... Sean McReavy put some lyrics to this. Sorry if someone has already made this point.
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My question is: Did Murry provide any backing vocals for 'Help Me Rhonda' - the album version?
There's a deep voice in there which is gravelly and - well, middle-aged. There's a lot going on the background of that chorus - kind of occult noises.
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idk about HMR, but he did do backing vocals for Be here in the Morning, as Mike was absent
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Badman did a similar kind of book on the Small Faces. I had been keen to read it but now am a bit wary. Has anyone read this? Is it as faulty as his BB's book?
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In the Summer Dreams movies, "Dennis" comes home to find his house trashed, with the words "'No lLove No Respect" written on the walls. Did this really happen? Or is it just a jumbled up version of the Superbowl 1981 incident, possibly with a little Charles Manson thrown in?
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In the Summer Dreams movies, "Dennis" comes home to find his house trashed, with the words "'No lLove No Respect" written on the walls. Did this really happen? Or is it just a jumbled up version of the Superbowl 1981 incident, possibly with a little Charles Manson thrown in?
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Anyone have any exact measurements of Brian's height at any given time period?
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Quote from: Don_Zabu on May 10, 2010, 05:20:55 PM
Anyone have any exact measurements of Brian's height at any given time period?
Brian's 6-2, 6-3.
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In the Summer Dreams movies, "Dennis" comes home to find his house trashed, with the words "'No lLove No Respect" written on the walls. Did this really happen? Or is it just a jumbled up version of the Superbowl 1981 incident, possibly with a little Charles Manson thrown in?
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Do you recall what year it happened?
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In the Summer Dreams movies, "Dennis" comes home to find his house trashed, with the words "'No lLove No Respect" written on the walls. Did this really happen? Or is it just a jumbled up version of the Superbowl 1981 incident, possibly with a little Charles Manson thrown in?
Nope. 100% accurate. Was reported in, I think,
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Do you recall what year it happened?
It was when he was with Shawn, I think, so 1982-83.
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In the Summer Dreams movies, "Dennis" comes home to find his house trashed, with the words "'No lLove No Respect" written on the walls. Did this really happen? Or is it just a jumbled up version of the Superbowl 1981 incident, possibly with a little Charles Manson thrown in?
Nope. 100% accurate. Was reported in, I think,
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Do you recall what year it happened?
It was when he was with Shawn, I think, so 1982-83.
Thanks for the info. Is it known who the guilty parties were? Imean, other than the "usual suspects".
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In the Summer Dreams movies, "Dennis" comes home to find his house trashed, with the words "'No lLove No Respect" written on the walls. Did this really happen? Or is it just a jumbled up version of the Superbowl 1981 incident, possibly with a little Charles Manson thrown in?
Nope. 100% accurate. Was reported in, I think,
People
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Do you recall what year it happened?
It was when he was with Shawn, I think, so 1982-83.
Thanks for the info. Is it known who the guilty parties were? Imean, other than the "usual suspects".
It was Shawn (or whoever he was with - a nagging little voice in the back of my mind (d'ya see what I did there ?) keeps saying "Karen").
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In the Summer Dreams movies, "Dennis" comes home to find his house trashed, with the words "'No lLove No Respect" written on the walls. Did this really happen? Or is it just a jumbled up version of the Superbowl 1981 incident, possibly with a little Charles Manson thrown in?
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Wonder if it was Gaines who reported it. He seemed to appreciate the Dennis aspect of the BB story quite a bit in H&V.
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Ok, here's another Dennis related Beach Boys question. It has been reported that the last recording of The Beach Boys to feature Dennis was the song Endless Harmony.It has also been stated that Dennis played "percussion" on the song. What, exactly, does the word "percussion" refer to? What was the last Beach Boys recording that Dennis played full "drums" on? Was it the Johnny B Goode KTSA outtake?
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