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« Reply #175 on: February 10, 2010, 01:33:38 PM »

Do outtakes from the "Summer In Paradise" sessions exist or did they only record the songs that are on the album?

If they do, I seriously don't wanna hear them. Considering what's on the album, can you imagine how bad the stuff they left off was ?  Shocked
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« Reply #176 on: February 10, 2010, 01:39:31 PM »

I dunno, in '76-'77 the Boys were tending to leave their best material unreleased...
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« Reply #177 on: February 10, 2010, 01:47:00 PM »

I dunno, in '76-'77 the Boys were tending to leave their best material unreleased...

Fair point, but when you stack up SIP against Love You, and even 15 BO... well ! Grin
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« Reply #178 on: February 10, 2010, 07:25:25 PM »

Only One Earth had been written by that point so may have been attempted. I think Bruce has said though that Terry Melcher hated SIP because they had to rush the production to get it out, so I doubt they had time to try much they didn't use.
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« Reply #179 on: February 10, 2010, 07:42:09 PM »

Only One Earth had been written by that point so may have been attempted. I think Bruce has said though that Terry Melcher hated SIP because they had to rush the production to get it out, so I doubt they had time to try much they didn't use.

Get it out for WHAT!?!!??  kokomo had been, what, four years ago?  its not like they had some fleeting moment to capitalize on (as one could at least argue with 15 big ones)!
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« Reply #180 on: February 14, 2010, 10:56:01 PM »

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« Reply #181 on: February 15, 2010, 12:31:54 AM »


Get it out for WHAT!?!!??  kokomo had been, what, four years ago?  its not like they had some fleeting moment to capitalize on (as one could at least argue with 15 big ones)!

The record deal that they'd been offered.
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« Reply #182 on: February 15, 2010, 11:01:30 AM »


Get it out for WHAT!?!!??  kokomo had been, what, four years ago?  its not like they had some fleeting moment to capitalize on (as one could at least argue with 15 big ones)!

The record deal that they'd been offered.

What 'deal they were offered' ?  SIP was released on Brother Entertainment. Like, their own custom label ?
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« Reply #183 on: February 15, 2010, 11:28:44 PM »

Do outtakes from the "Summer In Paradise" sessions exist or did they only record the songs that are on the album?

If they do, I seriously don't wanna hear them. Considering what's on the album, can you imagine how bad the stuff they left off was ?  Shocked
But what about the songs that were recorded? Since it was all done on computers, are there any "session tapes"? Is there even a "master tape"? Or was it all saved on some kind of hard drive?
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« Reply #184 on: February 16, 2010, 11:52:22 AM »


What 'deal they were offered' ?  SIP was released on Brother Entertainment. Like, their own custom label ?

According to Bruce, they were offered a stack of cash to get it out quickly.
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« Reply #185 on: February 16, 2010, 02:30:24 PM »


What 'deal they were offered' ?  SIP was released on Brother Entertainment. Like, their own custom label ?

According to Bruce, they were offered a stack of cash to get it out quickly.

By whom ? The label, which is to say, themselves ?  The only other people who might make such an offer were the distributors, Navarre.
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« Reply #186 on: February 16, 2010, 02:36:48 PM »

Do outtakes from the "Summer In Paradise" sessions exist or did they only record the songs that are on the album?

If they do, I seriously don't wanna hear them. Considering what's on the album, can you imagine how bad the stuff they left off was ?  Shocked
But what about the songs that were recorded? Since it was all done on computers, are there any "session tapes"? Is there even a "master tape"? Or was it all saved on some kind of hard drive?
I wonder why there are so many session recordings from the '60s and '70s out there and just so few from the '80s and '90s?
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« Reply #187 on: February 17, 2010, 12:09:36 AM »


What 'deal they were offered' ?  SIP was released on Brother Entertainment. Like, their own custom label ?

According to Bruce, they were offered a stack of cash to get it out quickly.

By whom ? The label, which is to say, themselves ?  The only other people who might make such an offer were the distributors, Navarre.


Yep. you are probably right that Bruce has said it was Navarre who forced them to get it out at speed.
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« Reply #188 on: February 17, 2010, 09:54:12 AM »

Do outtakes from the "Summer In Paradise" sessions exist or did they only record the songs that are on the album?

If they do, I seriously don't wanna hear them. Considering what's on the album, can you imagine how bad the stuff they left off was ?  Shocked
But what about the songs that were recorded? Since it was all done on computers, are there any "session tapes"? Is there even a "master tape"? Or was it all saved on some kind of hard drive?
I wonder why there are so many session recordings from the '60s and '70s out there and just so few from the '80s and '90s?

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« Reply #189 on: February 17, 2010, 11:31:23 AM »

Yep. you are probably right that Bruce has said it was Navarre who forced them to get it out at speed.

And how ironic that Navarre went under within a year of Summer In Paradise's release. The album technically was out of print as soon as it was released!
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« Reply #190 on: February 23, 2010, 03:42:15 AM »

Has that song "Hawaiian Song" surfaced yet? I think it's from the Smiley sessions? Possibly an early version of Little Pad. Sorry, I know this has been discussed before but couldn't remember if anyone had heard it or not.
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« Reply #191 on: February 23, 2010, 07:03:47 AM »

80s-90s sessions surfaced as in official or unofficial release? prolly because there's one major thing missing in those sessions: BRIAN, for the most part; let alone creativity
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« Reply #192 on: February 23, 2010, 10:51:25 AM »

New subject, and fairly insignificant so I'll put it here.
Having read a post here and there about "mistaken" Beach Boys songs (i.e. Here Come De Honey Man, Ant Bee's "Worms" cover), I'm curious if there are other BB rarities that are not the Beach Boys at all.  Specifically, wasn't there a "Holidays" track from an early Smile vinyl boot that fits this category (or is that the "Honey Man" track?)
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« Reply #193 on: February 23, 2010, 10:55:45 AM »

The first Smile cd I bought had "Laughing Gravy"s version of "Vegetables" on it. Took me about all of 8 seconds to realise it was a cover and not a session out take.
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« Reply #194 on: February 23, 2010, 11:34:52 AM »

Has that song "Hawaiian Song" surfaced yet? I think it's from the Smiley sessions? Possibly an early version of Little Pad. Sorry, I know this has been discussed before but couldn't remember if anyone had heard it or not.

Good call - part of "Hawaiian Song" transmuted into "Little Pad".
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« Reply #195 on: February 23, 2010, 11:36:15 AM »

New subject, and fairly insignificant so I'll put it here.
Having read a post here and there about "mistaken" Beach Boys songs (i.e. Here Come De Honey Man, Ant Bee's "Worms" cover), I'm curious if there are other BB rarities that are not the Beach Boys at all.  Specifically, wasn't there a "Holidays" track from an early Smile vinyl boot that fits this category (or is that the "Honey Man" track?)

That's "Honey Man".  Grin
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« Reply #196 on: February 23, 2010, 12:04:59 PM »

New subject, and fairly insignificant so I'll put it here.
Having read a post here and there about "mistaken" Beach Boys songs (i.e. Here Come De Honey Man, Ant Bee's "Worms" cover), I'm curious if there are other BB rarities that are not the Beach Boys at all.  Specifically, wasn't there a "Holidays" track from an early Smile vinyl boot that fits this category (or is that the "Honey Man" track?)

The Holiday track you refer to is a Miles Davis' tune called Holiday that was on one of the first Smile boots as a practical joke, I used LLVS as a source.

BTW, another mistaken as a BB song: Balboa Nights, just an instrumental track I found recently, prolly discovered a long time ago.
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« Reply #197 on: February 23, 2010, 01:01:36 PM »

New subject, and fairly insignificant so I'll put it here.
Having read a post here and there about "mistaken" Beach Boys songs (i.e. Here Come De Honey Man, Ant Bee's "Worms" cover), I'm curious if there are other BB rarities that are not the Beach Boys at all.  Specifically, wasn't there a "Holidays" track from an early Smile vinyl boot that fits this category (or is that the "Honey Man" track?)

The Holiday track you refer to is a Miles Davis' tune called Holiday that was on one of the first Smile boots as a practical joke, I used LLVS as a source.

BTW, another mistaken as a BB song: Balboa Nights, just an instrumental track I found recently, prolly discovered a long time ago.

Good call - on a whole bunch of compilations of Hite Morgan BB tracks, there are songs not by them.

Marketts -
Balboa Blue
Wipe Out
Surfer's Stomp

Frogmen -
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Tornadoes -
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« Reply #198 on: February 25, 2010, 08:26:52 PM »

Ok, here's another question: Exactly when did the lyrics to "Rhonda" change from "She was gonna be my wife...", to "She was gonna be my women", in the live performances of the song? It's a trivial thing, but I've always wondered who changed the lyric, when it was changed, and why it was changed. While I'm at it, who changed it back to "wife"?  Grin
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« Reply #199 on: February 25, 2010, 08:59:05 PM »

Ok, here's another question: Exactly when did the lyrics to "Rhonda" change from "She was gonna be my wife...", to "She was gonna be my women", in the live performances of the song? It's a trivial thing, but I've always wondered who changed the lyric, when it was changed, and why it was changed. While I'm at it, who changed it back to "wife"?  Grin
I think it was mostly sung with the woman lyric in the 70's. They played it real funky from 1971-80 so I think that's when they adapted the lyrics slightly.
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