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« on: February 13, 2019, 02:01:53 PM »

When Smile ultimately wasn't released what material in various forms appeared on other Beach Boys albums?

Off the top of my head,

Smiley Smile
Heroes and Villains
Vegetables
Fall Breaks
Good Vibrations
Wind Chimes
Wonderful
She's Going Bald

Wild Honey
Mama Says

Friends
Child Is The Father (in little bird)

20/20
Work Shop (Do it Again)
Our Prayer
Cabinessence

Sunflower
Cool Cool Water

Surf's Up
Surf's Up

Are there any songs I'm missing? It's just interesting to me to see how many things were still released in some shape or form over the years after Smile

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« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2019, 12:02:16 PM »

With Me Tonight was originally a SMiLE recording wasn't it?

there's also the section of Look that ended up in Good Vibrations

maybe a stretch but I hear a little Love to Say Dada in Aren't You Glad
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« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2019, 12:09:07 PM »

As late as 1980, "Goin' On" used the vocal ascending melody from Heroes & Villains.
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« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2019, 12:38:01 PM »

As late as 1980, "Goin' On" used the vocal ascending melody from Heroes & Villains.

That musical section was first used in ALL DRESSED UP FOR SCHOOL.

On each iteration the melody and chord changes were 'condensed.'  On Dressed Up, the changes occur every two counts. In Heroes, the changes happen on every count. On Going On, the chords change on a succession of triplets.

That's decent mileage.
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« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2019, 02:36:47 PM »

I hear the first movement of 'Surf's Up' in the verse backing track of 'Little Bird'. Actually 'Little Bird' has a lot of SMiLE-ish elements throughout.

Also 'Heroes & Villains' in the backing track of 'I Can Hear Music'.
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« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2019, 03:04:34 PM »

The Heroes and Villains (or River Deep Mountain High) bassline briefly shows up in the bridge of Be Here in the Morning Darling, the arrangement of the Wake the World verses borrows from Do You Like Worms's rhythms, the melody of Whistle In is loosely adapted from "mahalo lu lei, mahalo lu la", the horn break in Time to Get Alone sounds like it's building on some ideas from Look. Had to Phone Ya has shades of LTSDD/CCW in the chord progression.
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« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2019, 03:09:11 PM »

With Me Tonight was originally a SMiLE recording wasn't it?

The first 2 You're With Me Tonights (Vegetables bassline & vocal arrangement on Hawthorne and the harpsichord version on the Smile Sessions) are from early June, so technically Smiley, but they're before moving to the home studio so they kinda feel more Smile. Same with Cool Cool Water v1. Those and Love to Say Dada were all after the album was cancelled anyway.


maybe a stretch but I hear a little Love to Say Dada in Aren't You Glad

Taped detuned piano strings with a similar rhythm and a major 6th, definitely not a stretch!
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« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2019, 06:17:14 PM »

The Heroes and Villains (or River Deep Mountain High) bassline briefly shows up in the bridge of Be Here in the Morning Darling, the arrangement of the Wake the World verses borrows from Do You Like Worms's rhythms, the melody of Whistle In is loosely adapted from "mahalo lu lei, mahalo lu la", the horn break in Time to Get Alone sounds like it's building on some ideas from Look. Had to Phone Ya has shades of LTSDD/CCW in the chord progression.

Yeah the whistling during the alternate time to get alone sounds an awful lot like Look for sure
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« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2019, 11:24:13 PM »

I hear Do You Like Worms in She Believes in Love Again and some I'm in Great Shape in Pitter Patter.

Yeah you might think that's a stretch, but I bet you never realized that each of those songs have a tonic chord.
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« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2019, 07:09:49 AM »

beach boys song chords are a well-known tonic for what ails 'ya.  that's a given (for fans)
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